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Robin

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P-E-T-R-O-L. That's a funny way to spell "water"!

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JohnW

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Quote (rossum @ Sep. 10 2012,09:51)
[quote=Occam's Toothbrush,Sep. 10 2012,11:31]
Quote (Henry J @ Sep. 09 2012,22:50)

Did you know you can calculate the CSI of water by counting the number of letters in the recipe?

 Quote WaterIngredients:1 cup waterDirections:  Add water.Serves: 1 (serving size 1 cup)

Nah, this is the real recipe:

 Quote WaterIngredients:1 sachet dehydrated waterDirections:  Add water.Serves: 1 (serving size 1 cup)

Dehydrated water is very useful in the desert -- much lighter to carry.  Just add water and drink.

Don't forget to factor in the weight of all those extra bits of CSI.

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Occam's Aftershave

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[quote=JohnW,Sep. 10 2012,12:17]
Quote (rossum @ Sep. 10 2012,09:51)
Quote (Occam's Toothbrush @ Sep. 10 2012,11:31)

Quote (Henry J @ Sep. 09 2012,22:50)

Did you know you can calculate the CSI of water by counting the number of letters in the recipe?

 Quote WaterIngredients:1 cup waterDirections:  Add water.Serves: 1 (serving size 1 cup)

Nah, this is the real recipe:

 Quote WaterIngredients:1 sachet dehydrated waterDirections:  Add water.Serves: 1 (serving size 1 cup)

Dehydrated water is very useful in the desert -- much lighter to carry.  Just add water and drink.

Don't forget to factor in the weight of all those extra bits of CSI.

And by drinking the CSI containing water you are consuming the information- some stays with you and the rest is waste.

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"Science is what got us to the humble place weâ€™re at, and what hard-won progress we might realize comes from science, with ID completely flaccid, religious apologetics bitching from the sidelines." - Eigenstate at UD

Richardthughes

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Quote (sparc @ Sep. 10 2012,11:27)
Looking for education on Montserrat I came across this:
 Quote Win a house on Montserrat

edited for spelling

http://themoneyconverter.com/USD....CD.aspx

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Erasmus, FCD

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hey, a 580 square foot mansion for 60K US, what a great fucking deal.  No wonder Gordon wants to live there

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Freddie

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 Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Sep. 10 2012,15:20) hey, a 580 square foot mansion for 60K US, what a great fucking deal.  No wonder Gordon wants to live there

Who wouldn't want to live there with a vista such as this?

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Quote (Freddie @ Sep. 10 2012,21:27)
 Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Sep. 10 2012,15:20) hey, a 580 square foot mansion for 60K US, what a great fucking deal.  No wonder Gordon wants to live there

Who wouldn't want to live there with a vista such as this?

Living that close to the Soufričre Hills volcano, you would be in terrible danger of being overcome by the choking clouds of scorching hot gaseous emissions that follow explosive eruptions.

Technically, these are known as kyrospastic flows.

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"People are always looking for natural selection to generate random mutations" - Densye  4-4-2011
JoeG BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.

Richardthughes

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"kyrospastic flows"

You owe me new clean and pristine undercrackers. These ones won't dry!

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DaveH

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 Quote (Amadan @ Sep. 10 2012,15:34) Living that close to the Soufričre Hills volcano, you would be in terrible danger of being overcome by the choking clouds of scorching hot gaseous emissions that follow explosive eruptions.Technically, these are known as kyrospastic flows.

I am forced to de-lurk briefly to say thank you for that comment.
My wife has to get up stupidly early for a train tomorrow, and you have woken her up by causing me to laugh like an hyaena on acid.

steve_h

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 Quote (midwifetoad @ Sep. 10 2012,15:51) Dynese goes on vacation and the boys break the house.I do believe that UD is broken. The home page isn't updating, no new threads are being added.

You can see new posts by clicking on the RSS link on the right somewhere - or by searching for 'a' as I did.

eta: (slaps forehead) Kyrospastic! just got it.

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Quote (steve_h @ Sep. 10 2012,16:35)
 Quote (midwifetoad @ Sep. 10 2012,15:51) Dynese goes on vacation and the boys break the house.I do believe that UD is broken. The home page isn't updating, no new threads are being added.

You can see new posts by clicking on the RSS link on the right somewhere - or by searching for 'a' as I did.

eta: (slaps forehead) Kyrospastic! just got it.

I did peek, but came away grateful that some things remain hidden. Perhaps only logged in members get the correct home page. That would be nice.

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Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

olegt

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UD is turning into a black hole. We are observing relativistic time dilation. Sock puppets should get out asap.

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If you are not:
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Henry J

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 Quote UD is turning into a black hole. We are observing relativistic time dilation.

Isn't that contrary to their idiotology?

k.e..

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Quote (DaveH @ Sep. 10 2012,23:53)
 Quote (Amadan @ Sep. 10 2012,15:34) Living that close to the Soufričre Hills volcano, you would be in terrible danger of being overcome by the choking clouds of scorching hot gaseous emissions that follow explosive eruptions.Technically, these are known as kyrospastic flows.

I am forced to de-lurk briefly to say thank you for that comment.
My wife has to get up stupidly early for a train tomorrow, and you have woken her up by causing me to laugh like an hyaena on acid.

OK, HOMO!

WHERE AS KAIROFOCUS AKA GORDON ELLIOTT MULLINGS OF MONTSERRAT IS LIKE A RAT ON WARFARIN, YOU DARWINISTS ALWAYS TAKE THE HIGH GROUND.

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Erasmus, FCD

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Hey!  Goddammit keep it down or you will wake up my fish louse on Ambien!

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Tracy P. Hamilton

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 Quote (olegt @ Sep. 10 2012,19:35) UD is turning into a black hole. We are observing relativistic time dilation. Sock puppets should get out asap.

Fortunately, Hawking radiation will not lose the CSI needed to make a CAEK!

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"Following what I just wrote about fitness, you’re taking refuge in what we see in the world."  PaV

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Tracy P. Hamilton

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Quote (DaveH @ Sep. 10 2012,15:53)
 Quote (Amadan @ Sep. 10 2012,15:34) Living that close to the Soufričre Hills volcano, you would be in terrible danger of being overcome by the choking clouds of scorching hot gaseous emissions that follow explosive eruptions.Technically, these are known as kyrospastic flows.

I am forced to de-lurk briefly to say thank you for that comment.
My wife has to get up stupidly early for a train tomorrow, and you have woken her up by causing me to laugh like an hyaena on acid.

Seconded!

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"Following what I just wrote about fitness, you’re taking refuge in what we see in the world."  PaV

"The simple equation F = MA leads to the concept of four-dimensional space." GilDodgen

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oldmanintheskydidntdoit

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Upright:
 Quote By the way, you can see the practical benefits (of maintaining this enforced separation) in the comments coming from TSZ. Keith is literally in a full blown tantrum, rocking back and forth in his seat and kicking his feet. He and Onlooker act as if I myself invented biosemiosis, which is an incoherent argument with absolutely no basis in material fact. It simply cannot be allowed. You’ll also notice how the frontline scientists and researchers I have approached (i.e. Moran, Matzke, etc) have refused to get into a debate with me about it. It’s a no winner for them, and they have something to protect. They sure as hell are not going to engage in a public argument over the meaning of words like “arbitrary” and “information”. That’s beneath them. They will leave that to the internet’s bottom feeders like Patrick and Keith, who are unencumbered by the thought of appearing completely irrational.

No, really.

And, whatever you do, read the comment before that one then re-read the above.

So what's Upright scoring on the scale now anyway, as we've got to the "they are afraid to debate me" state now.

We can't be that far away from a YouTube video? Or photocopied A4 sheet he'll give away on street corners?

And Upright, debate comes after you've published a definitive version of your claim. Tard.

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

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Gordon Mullings

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It must hurt to clutch those pearls of wisdom so tightly.

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Richardthughes

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Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Sep. 12 2012,13:08)
Upright:
 Quote By the way, you can see the practical benefits (of maintaining this enforced separation) in the comments coming from TSZ. Keith is literally in a full blown tantrum, rocking back and forth in his seat and kicking his feet. He and Onlooker act as if I myself invented biosemiosis, which is an incoherent argument with absolutely no basis in material fact. It simply cannot be allowed. You’ll also notice how the frontline scientists and researchers I have approached (i.e. Moran, Matzke, etc) have refused to get into a debate with me about it. It’s a no winner for them, and they have something to protect. They sure as hell are not going to engage in a public argument over the meaning of words like “arbitrary” and “information”. That’s beneath them. They will leave that to the internet’s bottom feeders like Patrick and Keith, who are unencumbered by the thought of appearing completely irrational.

No, really.

And, whatever you do, read the comment before that one then re-read the above.

So what's Upright scoring on the scale now anyway, as we've got to the "they are afraid to debate me" state now.

We can't be that far away from a YouTube video? Or photocopied A4 sheet he'll give away on street corners?

And Upright, debate comes after you've published a definitive version of your claim. Tard.

"many experts agree with me, but are scared to do so publically"..

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Erasmus, FCD

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causes hemorrhoids and polyps

i recommend colonic irrigation.  I hear Floyd Lee is looking for some of that too, maybe we can arrange a tupperware party tard-off

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

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 Quote "many experts agree with me, but are scared to do so publicly"..

It's just his circle of friends.

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Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

Patrick

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Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Sep. 12 2012,14:08)
Upright:
 Quote By the way, you can see the practical benefits (of maintaining this enforced separation) in the comments coming from TSZ. Keith is literally in a full blown tantrum, rocking back and forth in his seat and kicking his feet. He and Onlooker act as if I myself invented biosemiosis, which is an incoherent argument with absolutely no basis in material fact. It simply cannot be allowed. You’ll also notice how the frontline scientists and researchers I have approached (i.e. Moran, Matzke, etc) have refused to get into a debate with me about it. It’s a no winner for them, and they have something to protect. They sure as hell are not going to engage in a public argument over the meaning of words like “arbitrary” and “information”. That’s beneath them. They will leave that to the internet’s bottom feeders like Patrick and Keith, who are unencumbered by the thought of appearing completely irrational.

No, really.

And, whatever you do, read the comment before that one then re-read the above.

So what's Upright scoring on the scale now anyway, as we've got to the "they are afraid to debate me" state now.

We can't be that far away from a YouTube video? Or photocopied A4 sheet he'll give away on street corners?

And Upright, debate comes after you've published a definitive version of your claim. Tard.

I got a mention even though I don't even read UD anymore?

I must have really hurt Upright BiPed's feelings over at The Skeptical Zone.  I should meditate on the need to extend compassion even to screaming fuckwits those unable or unwilling to see the flaws in their deliberately evasive and nonsensical arguments.

Hmm, I seem to recall having an apology already written for a similar occasion . . .
 Quote I was raised to be polite, which forces me to consider apologizing to the denizens of Uncommon Descent. However, with the exception of Mrs. O'Leary, who was unfailingly charming in our email exchanges, and Atom, who had not been involved in the discussions but chose to publicly distance himself from vjtorley's actions, there isn't a person there I'd be interested in even having a beer with. Given that, I have to ask myself, to whom should I apologize? Those who claim to be practicing science but refuse to support their claims? Those who continue to lie in the face of clear evidence of their mendacity? Those who quote mine and try to defend their dishonesty? Those who support pseudonymity "for me but not for thee"? Those who are trying so desperately to misappropriate the respect earned by science for their own undeserving religious beliefs? Those who are all too ready to clutch their pearls at some imagined etiquette transgression while hypocritically behaving unbelievably rudely themselves? Those who arrogantly mock what they clearly don't understand? Those willing to censor their opponents rather than address their arguments? Those misogynists who ignore arguments, replying instead "Go away, little girl"? Those who remain willfully ignorant despite the myriad educational resources available to them? Those who deliberately build an insular community to support these behaviors?No, these people do not deserve an apology. While most supporters of Intelligent Design Creationism are simply parroting what they hear while sitting in their pews, the IDC proponents at Uncommon Descent have chosen to actively proselytize. Despite the disingenuous ways in which they engage with people knowledgeable about science, they can't help but be exposed to the deep flaws in their own arguments. They cannot claim ignorance. That leaves stupidity, insanity, or wickedness. I find that the evidence supports a combination of all three.

Yeah, I need to work on the compassion.

Soapy Sam

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UBP
 Quote You’ll also notice how the frontline scientists and researchers I have approached (i.e. Moran, Matzke, etc) have refused to get into a debate with me about it.

Yeah, they are afeared of ya. Not that they think you are a waste of time or anything.

I used to think UBP was a fucking dickhead. Then I saw him take his argument to TSZ, and thought "well, fair play mate". Now, I think UBP is a fucking dickhead. The pompous attempts to 'demolish' his opponents, smarmy 'I see through your subterfuge' stuff like this to 'onlooker':

 Quote By the way, you coming on this board and taking the 63 words of my #1 and #2 in the OP, and spending 260 words explicitly illuminating just how masterfully you could trim them down to just 23 words in a coherent statement that suits you, is not much of a demonstration of how incomprehensible the argument is. In fact, that was a rank amateur’s mistake, performed with great fanfare.But don’t sweat it. It was obvious you wanted to show how smart you are.

People with great ideas always rehearse them interminably on blogs. It's the mark of a great idea. And the more punters you can suck into your cybersphere from their little bedrooms and studies across the globe, and then demolish with your withering contempt, the more embiggened you become.

The question remains: why do so many people spend so much time on the arguments of this charlatan?

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khan

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 Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 12 2012,14:26) "many experts agree with me, but are scared to do so publically"..

I've been reading that crap for for than 20 years "many people support me in email"

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That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad

Frequency is just the plural of wavelength...
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JonF

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To the tune of "My Bonnie Lies Over the Ocean":

The Lurkers support me in e-mail
They all think I'm great don't you know.
You posters just don't understand me
But soon you will reap what you sow.

Lurkers, lurkers, lurkers support me, you'll see, you'll see
Off in e-mail the lurkers support me, you'll see.

The lurkers support me in e-mail
"So why don't they post?" you all cry
They're scared of your hostile intentions
They just can't be as brave as I.

Lurkers, lurkers, lurkers support me, you'll see, you'll see
Off in e-mail the lurkers support me, you'll see.

One day I'll round up all my lurkers
We'll have a newsgroup of our own
Without all this flak from you morons
My lurkers will post round my throne.

Lurkers, lurkers, lurkers support me, you'll see, you'll see
Off in e-mail the lurkers support me, you'll see.

(Author is Jo Walton....)

fnxtr

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Quote (midwifetoad @ Sep. 12 2012,11:36)

 Quote "many experts agree with me, but are scared to do so publicly"..

It's just his circle of friends jerks.

FTFY

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The whole truth

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Quote (Patrick @ Sep. 12 2012,12:40)

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Sep. 12 2012,14:08)
Upright:
 Quote By the way, you can see the practical benefits (of maintaining this enforced separation) in the comments coming from TSZ. Keith is literally in a full blown tantrum, rocking back and forth in his seat and kicking his feet. He and Onlooker act as if I myself invented biosemiosis, which is an incoherent argument with absolutely no basis in material fact. It simply cannot be allowed. You’ll also notice how the frontline scientists and researchers I have approached (i.e. Moran, Matzke, etc) have refused to get into a debate with me about it. It’s a no winner for them, and they have something to protect. They sure as hell are not going to engage in a public argument over the meaning of words like “arbitrary” and “information”. That’s beneath them. They will leave that to the internet’s bottom feeders like Patrick and Keith, who are unencumbered by the thought of appearing completely irrational.

No, really.

And, whatever you do, read the comment before that one then re-read the above.

So what's Upright scoring on the scale now anyway, as we've got to the "they are afraid to debate me" state now.

We can't be that far away from a YouTube video? Or photocopied A4 sheet he'll give away on street corners?

And Upright, debate comes after you've published a definitive version of your claim. Tard.

I got a mention even though I don't even read UD anymore?

I must have really hurt Upright BiPed's feelings over at The Skeptical Zone.  I should meditate on the need to extend compassion even to screaming fuckwits those unable or unwilling to see the flaws in their deliberately evasive and nonsensical arguments.

Hmm, I seem to recall having an apology already written for a similar occasion . . .

 Quote I was raised to be polite, which forces me to consider apologizing to the denizens of Uncommon Descent. However, with the exception of Mrs. O'Leary, who was unfailingly charming in our email exchanges, and Atom, who had not been involved in the discussions but chose to publicly distance himself from vjtorley's actions, there isn't a person there I'd be interested in even having a beer with. Given that, I have to ask myself, to whom should I apologize? Those who claim to be practicing science but refuse to support their claims? Those who continue to lie in the face of clear evidence of their mendacity? Those who quote mine and try to defend their dishonesty? Those who support pseudonymity "for me but not for thee"? Those who are trying so desperately to misappropriate the respect earned by science for their own undeserving religious beliefs? Those who are all too ready to clutch their pearls at some imagined etiquette transgression while hypocritically behaving unbelievably rudely themselves? Those who arrogantly mock what they clearly don't understand? Those willing to censor their opponents rather than address their arguments? Those misogynists who ignore arguments, replying instead "Go away, little girl"? Those who remain willfully ignorant despite the myriad educational resources available to them? Those who deliberately build an insular community to support these behaviors?No, these people do not deserve an apology. While most supporters of Intelligent Design Creationism are simply parroting what they hear while sitting in their pews, the IDC proponents at Uncommon Descent have chosen to actively proselytize. Despite the disingenuous ways in which they engage with people knowledgeable about science, they can't help but be exposed to the deep flaws in their own arguments. They cannot claim ignorance. That leaves stupidity, insanity, or wickedness. I find that the evidence supports a combination of all three.

Yeah, I need to work on the compassion.

"UD Editors:  No one has come close to refuting UB’s thesis after 129 comments.  We are moving this post to the top of the page to give the materialists another chance."

129+ comments but how many are from "materialists"? Most "materialists" don't even know (or don't care) that UD or uptightbiped exist, and most "materialists" (one of arrington's labels for sane people) are blocked or have their posts deleted by arrington, or were banned long ago.

joey confirms that UD isn't interested in open and honest discussion:

"And Allan, seeing that you don’t have any evidence to support your position, what would you debate if you could post here?"  (my bold)

And speaking of joey, he said:

"As I said we can determine designed or not without having to know how."

The IDiots ("we") can determine design without knowing how. Yeah, all science so far. And that statement admits that all the assertions the IDiots come up with about how to determine design are ineffective and useless.

joey also demonstrates what drinking hydrogen peroxide has done to his pea brain:

"The terms are clearly understood by anyone who A) knows how to use a dictionary (or the English language)..."

That, from an illiterate bumpkin.

And from the safety of the UD sanctuary, joey blustered:

"But that is because you guys are the big C, as in Cowards."

"How we are perceived by a bunch of equivocating intellectual cowards is of no consequence."

"Obviously you don’t care how you are perceived…"

Obviously joey is unable to perceive himself and his IDiot comrades.

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But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

Tracy P. Hamilton

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Who was it that had a way of tracking UD traffic.  Was there an effect from the great banning of the cowards afraid to agree with Bully Arrington?

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Ras,

Who say ye is the Tard of Tards?

Speak!!

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"People are always looking for natural selection to generate random mutations" - Densye  4-4-2011
JoeG BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.

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