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damitall



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(Permalink) Posted: June 25 2012,16:58   

Speaking as a Brit, I should like to point out that we are broke, yet give millions per year to Montserrat
Therefore, should the people of Montserrat wish to get out from under our cruel imperialist yoke, they should feel free to do so.
And renounce their British citizenship whilst they're about it.

Especially that nasty little homophobic sanctimonious pseudointellectual Mullings.

  
Patrick



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(Permalink) Posted: June 25 2012,20:18   

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Out of curiosity, does anyone know what kairosfocus is talking about when he references a "constitutional crisis"? †I've looked at the Montserrat news recently and didn't see any kind of crisis nor any mention of anyone with the initials GEM creating one.

Unfortunately, he's no worse than some politicians in the deep south of the US, so I'm willing to believe it's possible that he might be a semi-prominent member of the street sweepers union on a sufficiently small island.

Don't know about the latest crisis, but here is one from 2010. It concerns teh gays.

I thought it was this:
Premier Meade seeks to delist Montserrat as a Colony at the UN

So kairosfocus is too busy to rant on UD because he is ranting on some obscure Montserrat discussion forum that isn't even indexed by Google, presenting views that are never even seen by anyone in the government?

I find that quite believable, actually.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 25 2012,20:30   

Quote (Patrick @ June 25 2012,20:18)
 
Quote (NormOlsen @ June 25 2012,16:29)
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Quote (Patrick @ June 25 2012,14:48)
Out of curiosity, does anyone know what kairosfocus is talking about when he references a "constitutional crisis"? †I've looked at the Montserrat news recently and didn't see any kind of crisis nor any mention of anyone with the initials GEM creating one.

Unfortunately, he's no worse than some politicians in the deep south of the US, so I'm willing to believe it's possible that he might be a semi-prominent member of the street sweepers union on a sufficiently small island.

Don't know about the latest crisis, but here is one from 2010. It concerns teh gays.

I thought it was this:
Premier Meade seeks to delist Montserrat as a Colony at the UN

So kairosfocus is too busy to rant on UD because he is ranting on some obscure Montserrat discussion forum that isn't even indexed by Google, presenting views that are never even seen by anyone in the government?

I find that quite believable, actually.

KF likes to reference "the crisis" because it makes him sound important. Nobody embroiled in an actual crisis would stop to post 1000+ words on UD. It's pure posturing from an insufferable wanker.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 25 2012,20:52   

Quote (damitall @ June 25 2012,16:58)
Speaking as a Brit, I should like to point out that we are broke, yet give millions per year to Montserrat
Therefore, should the people of Montserrat wish to get out from under our cruel imperialist yoke, they should feel free to do so.
And renounce their British citizenship whilst they're about it.

Especially that nasty little homophobic sanctimonious pseudointellectual Mullings.

You're broke because you guys committed Camerkozy.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 25 2012,21:03   

Quote (Patrick @ June 25 2012,12:48)
Out of curiosity, does anyone know what kairosfocus is talking about when he references a "constitutional crisis"? †I've looked at the Montserrat news recently and didn't see any kind of crisis nor any mention of anyone with the initials GEM creating one.

Unfortunately, he's no worse than some politicians in the deep south of the US, so I'm willing to believe it's possible that he might be a semi-prominent member of the street sweepers union on a sufficiently small island.

gordo uses the "constitutional crisis" bullshit (and a lot of other self-inflating bullshit) to try to make it sound as though he is an important statesman and has substantial political/governmental power and influence, not only in Montserrat but also in the UK and other countries. He's actually a nothing, a nobody, and has no political/governmental power or influence, anywhere. He's just a loud-mouthed, insignificant, bigoted, dishonest, insane coward with delusions of god-hood.  

I picture him as an insufferable, drooling pest who shows up at public meetings in Manjack Heights and spews a looooooooooooooooooooong, convoluted, sanctimonious sermon about the "crisis" of the world-destroying immorality of whatever conflicts with his anal-retentive religious dogma, even when the purpose of the meeting is just to discuss funding for patching a few potholes in the local roads.

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Badger3k



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(Permalink) Posted: June 25 2012,21:18   

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Quote (Patrick @ June 25 2012,14:48)
Out of curiosity, does anyone know what kairosfocus is talking about when he references a "constitutional crisis"? †I've looked at the Montserrat news recently and didn't see any kind of crisis nor any mention of anyone with the initials GEM creating one.

Unfortunately, he's no worse than some politicians in the deep south of the US, so I'm willing to believe it's possible that he might be a semi-prominent member of the street sweepers union on a sufficiently small island.

Don't know about the latest crisis, but here is one from 2010. It concerns teh gays.

I thought it was this:
Premier Meade seeks to delist Montserrat as a Colony at the UN

So kairosfocus is too busy to rant on UD because he is ranting on some obscure Montserrat discussion forum that isn't even indexed by Google, presenting views that are never even seen by anyone in the government?

I find that quite believable, actually.

KF likes to reference "the crisis" because it makes him sound important. Nobody embroiled in an actual crisis would stop to post 1000+ words on UD. It's pure posturing from an insufferable wanker.

The only crisis he has is the one inside his pants when he thinks of Teh Gay.  Time for Mr Leathers.  I wonder if KF follows Porno Pete?

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REC



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(Permalink) Posted: June 25 2012,21:34   

So about 24 hours ago, commenter paulmc gave UD what they were asking for-he read Gauger's pamphlet, and gave a substantive

(if overly kind, for fuck's sake, she's straight up lying about the rate of recombination: "HLA-DRB1 region of chromosome six shows little or no signs of recombination", which is MEASURED in human populations, and not zero--it is SO substantial that you have to type the locus for organ transplantations even in families!!!; attacking a 20 year article as if a few thousand human genomes and the neanderthal, chimp, gorilla, etc. genomes haven't been sequenced since then; says lazy bullshit like "cross-species assortment of exon 2 sequences could have been acquired without disrupting the species-specific introns" or "this would require that the incipient speciesí populations intermingled for a prolonged period of time." as if the recombination hotspots aren't known, and the introns long, or that if carrying multiple alleles is beneficial they won't go to fixation of a single allele so, if there is a population of 1000 apes and 1000 humans, they can carry a lot of shared alleles without 'intermingling'....which, by the way, is the damn opposite of a single pair (or clonal via the rib of adam?) of humans-- Adam and Eve. And what about Noah? Another population bottleneck sustains this allelic diversity? And in true ID fashion, a weak critique of weak data=proof positive of teh bible.)

reply.

But I digress. Since paulmc's comment?

Fucking crickets....

Edited by REC on June 25 2012,21:37

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 25 2012,22:04   

I can't figure out the significance of Adam and Eve. Noah would provide the only Y chromosome in the human population.

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oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: June 26 2012,03:43   

Re: Paulmc's comment. It seems that Ann will only respond to snark to say that she wont' be responding to snark.

A substantive point? No. Perhaps Ann is following the rest of the ID crew and not responding in public to criticism.

As we all know responding to critics can lead to dancing.

Or, even worse, to a conversation permanently on the record (well, considering UD not so much) that can be referenced later. And as we know they don't like to be put on the spot, Dover anyone?

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: June 26 2012,05:20   

Paulmc reviews "Science and human origins" chapter by chapter

http://apomorph.blogspot.co.nz/....t.co.nz

well worth a look. Short version: They found what they looked for, and only that.

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gaugerís work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
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CeilingCat



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(Permalink) Posted: June 26 2012,05:56   

Quote (REC @ June 25 2012,21:34)
So about 24 hours ago, commenter paulmc gave UD what they were asking for-he read Gauger's pamphlet, and gave a substantive

(if overly kind, for fuck's sake, she's straight up lying about the rate of recombination: "HLA-DRB1 region of chromosome six shows little or no signs of recombination", which is MEASURED in human populations, and not zero--it is SO substantial that you have to type the locus for organ transplantations even in families!!!; attacking a 20 year article as if a few thousand human genomes and the neanderthal, chimp, gorilla, etc. genomes haven't been sequenced since then; says lazy bullshit like "cross-species assortment of exon 2 sequences could have been acquired without disrupting the species-specific introns" or "this would require that the incipient speciesí populations intermingled for a prolonged period of time." as if the recombination hotspots aren't known, and the introns long, or that if carrying multiple alleles is beneficial they won't go to fixation of a single allele so, if there is a population of 1000 apes and 1000 humans, they can carry a lot of shared alleles without 'intermingling'....which, by the way, is the damn opposite of a single pair (or clonal via the rib of adam?) of humans-- Adam and Eve. And what about Noah? Another population bottleneck sustains this allelic diversity? And in true ID fashion, a weak critique of weak data=proof positive of teh bible.)

reply.

But I digress. Since paulmc's comment?

Fucking crickets....


Is this it?

Paul McBride, PhD candidate from New Zealand, is also reviewing "Science and Human Origins" on his website, "Still Monkeys".

Chapter two is here. †Scroll down for Chapter 1. †Good stuff.

Scroll further down and see him take on Cornelius Hunter and the molecular clock, explain Junk DNA, comment on some local NZ political stuff, recommend a bitching TED talk about proto-life (see those inert cells moving around and dividing), home brewing and Ann Gauger.

Well worth reading.

ETA: Scooped!

Edited by CeilingCat on June 26 2012,05:57

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Patrick



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(Permalink) Posted: June 26 2012,07:51   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ June 26 2012,06:20)
Paulmc reviews "Science and human origins" chapter by chapter

http://apomorph.blogspot.co.nz/....t.c....t.co.nz

well worth a look. Short version: They found what they looked for, and only that.

And he's a barefoot runner, according to the immediately following blog post!  I do enjoy confirming my prejudice that sufficiently intelligent people will think like me.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 26 2012,08:15   

I think I know one of the reasons that gordon e mullings won't come here. There's a limit of 76800 characters per post here and that would thoroughly frustrate that bloviating gasbag.



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Patrick



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(Permalink) Posted: June 26 2012,09:41   

For those of you, like me, who missed the "Modern Science and Ancient Faith" conference, John Farrell briefly covers it for Forbes:

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Brown University biologist Kenneth Miller always gives a great talk.
. . .
included a recap of his role in the Dover Trial and his critique of intelligent design creationism.

He was followed by William Dembski, a leading proponent of intelligent design, with "An Information Theoretic Proof of Godís Existence."
. . .
Then he moved on to his signature points using information theory to argue that Natural Selection is not sufficient to explain novelty in biological systems.

This was the first time Iíd ever seen Dembski in person, and unlike Miller he does not use slides. He probably should, because he has a good sense of humor, but his delivery was too often undercut by his dependence on reading from his paper and constant digressions where he almost sounded like he was talking to himself rather than addressing the audience, and his voice would become almost inaudible.

Needless to say, he did not share Millerís view of the Dover trial. (Thatís a whole separate post.) Still, itís odd to hear a trained philosopher say, "Iím fine with common ancestry, but I donít buy it."

(Emphasis mine, I like seeing that phrase getting more traction.)

Dembski in the same conference as Miller. †That's certainly good for one of their resumes.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 26 2012,09:53   

In Paulmc's review of "Science and Human Origins" he says:

"Some consistent themes strike the reader by this point in the book. After the introduction and Gauger's first chapter, it is clear that the defence of a Christian worldview is a major undercurrent in this book. The introduction (by the Discovery Institute's John G. West) introduces a cultural context for the book, where Darwinian evolution is seen as a secular tool "to topple the idea of human exceptionalism". This is what is seen as being at stake. Then in Chapter 1, Gauger introduces human evolution in the context of Christians losing faith in a literal Adam and Eve, and lamenting Christians who accept the scientific evidence for evolution. And now, Chapter 2 begins with Axe disapprovingly quoting "vocal atheist" Richard Dawkins about the illusion of design in biology. Axe is unconvinced that it is an illusion and reminds us that the question of human origins is important because, once again, it connects "to how we should think of ourselves." I have never understood this line of thinking. The implication is that if we think of ourselves as descended from apes, we will treat other people as apes, which is to say apparently badly. "

As he said, that is what is seen as being at stake. In other words, god zombies see humans, or at least themselves, as being special, exceptional, created in the image of "God", and 'I ain't no ape!'.

It's ALL about ego, arrogance, self-righteousness, power, and SUPERIORITY. Everything else on Earth and in the entire universe was created FOR humans, or at least god zombie humans, to use and abuse as they want to. Everything else is INFERIOR. Even other humans who don't believe in the same "God" are INFERIOR. Only 'the chosen ones' are SUPERIOR. Only the ones who do all the right things will get any favors, including eternal life, from "God". Everything else and everyone else is EXPENDABLE, and everyone who doesn't do all the right things and believe in the 'right' "God" deserves to and will suffer unimaginable pain and torment for eternity.

Could there be anything more arrogant, malicious, selfish, and insane than religion?

Oh, and what's with the religious shit in a book that is allegedly about "Science and Human Origins" that was written and is being pushed by IDiots? I thought they claim that ID has nothing to do with religion? NO science so far!

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(Permalink) Posted: June 26 2012,09:56   

Like many others I find it sad, that their faith is so weak they need scientific proof of their god. Weren't they specifically guided not to do that somewhere?

Sad.

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oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: June 26 2012,13:05   

It seems Gordo's "crisis" is so full-on that he can find the time to

A) read my comments
B) write up an entire blog post about them

How desperate for content must they be? Don't you have any ID research to report on Gordo?

But FFS, this one is a keeper:


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Perhaps the reason it never get's seriously discussed is that you are too scared to discuss it with people who don't already think the way you do?

Difference is Gordo that nobody's found anything that looks exactly like something a human has made in biology except that it also self replicates.

The only people who find "watches" are people like you, who gaze at the artists impression of a flagellum gracing the top of UD and believe it really is accurate.

These "watches" you find, self replicating "watches" are all explainable (or outlines can be sketched) via "darwinism" (aka reality based community). But as you deny anyything at all can be explained via "darwinism" it's watchmakers all the way down for you.

TELL YOU WHAT, GORDO, WHY DON'T WE HAVE A PROPER CONVERSATION ABOUT IT? I MADE A THREAD JUST FOR YOU, YOU FUCKING COWARD, AND I'LL EVEN CALL YOU KF THERE!

So how about it?

Or shall we continue or game on UD? It's been some time....





Or has it!?!

Bwhahahahahhhahaah1h1h1h1h1h1h11honeoneone111!

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gaugerís work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
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(Permalink) Posted: June 26 2012,13:25   

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If the key cell-level mechanisms of life are based on FSCO/I and that is best explained per observation on design ó it is a reliable sign of it ó then it is part of the shift in balance on how we view FSCO/I across the world of life.


Hey, Gordo, you keep saying "if" don't you? Why?

You talk about "reliable signs" not "certainty". You talk about "if" not "is".

Yet you'll then proclaim with absolute certainty that somebody else is wrong, that "islands of functionality" preclude evolution, but then can't make a coherent answer to pertinent questions other then to mumble "proteins, configuration space" and chant some numbers like a voodoo curse.

Let's look at your post.
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Ah, Joe:

Ah, your first mistake. Getting down that low in the barrel and shit is going to stick to you, no matter what. But let's face it, what choice do you have? Talking to BA77 is not an option is it?
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While I await the outcome of the no-confidence debate.

Just like everybody else who had no influence in it what-so-ever.
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I think that, at least, the people can hear for themselves what is going on, and begin to realise what changes we will need to take the country and region forward.

As long as they realise the right sort of change, yeah? Like keeping the gay people down, huh?
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You are right to highlight that the ability to carry out self-replication is indeed an instance of what has to be explained, FSCO/I.

Then why don't you explain it?

Go ahead......

Explain self-replication.

Oh, what's that? You can't? You can't actually say anything about the origin of life at all except some dubious calculations about how improbable it is?

Lol @ you then, moron.
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Which is what Paley pointed out 206 years ago, long before the debates that strawmannised and lampooned him.

Yes, even Paley knew about FSCO/I. The magic quantity that you can't calculate or otherwise use in any way what-so-ever.
 
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And, the truth is, the only empirically and analytically justified causal factor known to be adequate to cause FSCO/I, is intelligence.

Is it? As a moment ago I had you down as an "if" or "reliable signs" type of guy? Now it's down to a single, certain cause?

What was that cause? What caused FSCO/I Gordo?
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One would have thought that at least the Anti-Evo habituees would have learned to do their homework before trotting out talking points.

And lo! The pot speaketh, and it say: "Hey, kettle, look at all that soot on you!".

If you did your homework KF, you'd never speak again.
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But, yet again, they did not.

They? You are only talking about me, who is they?

If "they" is everybody then you are obviously judging them by my words alone.

And yet you greet Joe in the first line of your post as a comrade in arms.

You are so far down in the dirt Gordon Mullings....
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And, we need not further underscore the basic lack of broughtupcy that seems to be so characteristic in places like Anti Evo. One hopes, they will wake up and clean up their act.

Yeah, the place you can't stay away from, the place you read every fucking post on despite the fact it's such a disgusting swamp.

It never seems to work out so well for you Gordo when I come to yours. So why don't you try it over here? You might be surprised at the welcome you'd get!

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PS: The point here is that OOL cannot be separated from OO body plans or basic morphologies of life forms across the world of life.


I'm going to have to put this in caps BUT GORDO, NEITHER ID NOR YOU CAN SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ANY OF THAT ANYWAY!

So regardless of your basic misunderstanding, which I believe to be deliberate, of conflating OOL and what comes after, what's your fucking point?

EXPLAIN SOMETHING THEN! IT'S YOUR TURN IDiot!

duh.

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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REC



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(Permalink) Posted: June 26 2012,17:35   

Quote (fnxtr @ June 26 2012,09:56)
Like many others I find it sad, that their faith is so weak they need scientific proof of their god. Weren't they specifically guided not to do that somewhere?

Sad.

And if they actually believe Gauger demonstrates a historical Adam and Eve, shouldn't they, you know, be a little more excited about it?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 26 2012,18:03   

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I think I know one of the reasons that gordon e mullings won't come here. There's a limit of 76800 characters per post here and that would thoroughly frustrate that bloviating gasbag.


Cornelius Hunter's blog is also an immoral fever swamp, judging by KF's lack of participation over there.

Or could it be that CH allows comments and doesn't ban people??

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(Permalink) Posted: June 26 2012,18:06   

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Out of curiosity, does anyone know what kairosfocus is talking about when he references a "constitutional crisis"? †I've looked at the Montserrat news recently and didn't see any kind of crisis nor any mention of anyone with the initials GEM creating one.

Unfortunately, he's no worse than some politicians in the deep south of the US, so I'm willing to believe it's possible that he might be a semi-prominent member of the street sweepers union on a sufficiently small island.

gordo uses the "constitutional crisis" bullshit (and a lot of other self-inflating bullshit) to try to make it sound as though he is an important statesman and has substantial political/governmental power and influence, not only in Montserrat but also in the UK and other countries. He's actually a nothing, a nobody, and has no political/governmental power or influence, anywhere. He's just a loud-mouthed, insignificant, bigoted, dishonest, insane coward with delusions of god-hood. †

I picture him as an insufferable, drooling pest who shows up at public meetings in Manjack Heights and spews a looooooooooooooooooooong, convoluted, sanctimonious sermon about the "crisis" of the world-destroying immorality of whatever conflicts with his anal-retentive religious dogma, even when the purpose of the meeting is just to discuss funding for patching a few potholes in the local roads.

Did you read that Meade decolonization link? Even the newspaper has this neo-Victorian verbal style... It might affect the whole island...

Ripley's advice might be best.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 26 2012,18:19   

I notice on Montserrat's Wikipedia page that no one with the initials GEM is listed in the section "Famous Montserratians."  An oversight, surely.

The population of the island is less than six thousand, spread over a number of towns and villages.  I wonder how many know kairosfocus by name?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 26 2012,18:40   

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I notice on Montserrat's Wikipedia page that no one with the initials GEM is listed in the section "Famous Montserratians." †An oversight, surely.

The population of the island is less than six thousand, spread over a number of towns and villages. †I wonder how many know kairosfocus by name?

And how many people have decided that they'd rather not know him.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 26 2012,19:53   

Hey kf,

Let's play a game.  I bet that IF you had watches that could self reproduce AND if they had imperfect replication, then I BET you would have watches that evolve.

Fortunately, I don't have to go back 200 years to find my supporting evidence.

Evolution IS a blind watchmaker

Evolution wins... again

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(Permalink) Posted: June 26 2012,21:15   

Quote (CeilingCat @ June 26 2012,05:56)
Paul McBride, PhD candidate from New Zealand, is also reviewing "Science and Human Origins" on his website, "Still Monkeys".

Chapter two is here. †Scroll down for Chapter 1. †Good stuff.

Scroll further down and see him take on Cornelius Hunter and the molecular clock, explain Junk DNA, comment on some local NZ political stuff, recommend a bitching TED talk about proto-life (see those inert cells moving around and dividing), home brewing and Ann Gauger.

Well worth reading.

ETA: Scooped!

Thanks for the most generous plug. I will continue to review the DI book chapter by chapter, so the blog will show some signs of life again over the next few days.

The next two chapters are authored by Casey Luskin. One on the hominin fossil record and then one on junk DNA...

--Paul.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 26 2012,21:42   

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Paul McBride, PhD candidate from New Zealand, is also reviewing "Science and Human Origins" on his website, "Still Monkeys".

Chapter two is here. †Scroll down for Chapter 1. †Good stuff.

Scroll further down and see him take on Cornelius Hunter and the molecular clock, explain Junk DNA, comment on some local NZ political stuff, recommend a bitching TED talk about proto-life (see those inert cells moving around and dividing), home brewing and Ann Gauger.

Well worth reading.

ETA: Scooped!

Thanks for the most generous plug. I will continue to review the DI book chapter by chapter, so the blog will show some signs of life again over the next few days.

The next two chapters are authored by Casey Luskin. One on the hominin fossil record and then one on junk DNA...

--Paul.

I'm looking forward to the fossil record post!

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(Permalink) Posted: June 26 2012,21:45   

Vintage KF:

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....of-that

Complete [[inability] to use [brackets} in any meaningful way. [Dip(shit}.

Bonus:

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..Sorry, I cannot say more, just now.

I have a crisis pivoting on a vote of no confidence on the legal force of UN Charter article 73 to attend to.


And he says no more, except that 6 of the 8 comments are his, including a PS and a PPS. Twatchops!

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(Permalink) Posted: June 26 2012,22:33   

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I notice on Montserrat's Wikipedia page that no one with the initials GEM is listed in the section "Famous Montserratians." †An oversight, surely.

The population of the island is less than six thousand, spread over a number of towns and villages. †I wonder how many know kairosfocus by name?

Only 6000 inhabitants? So it may well be his wife who is or has been working for the Darwin Initiative's project on the environmental role of feral pigs on Montserrat. She's acknowledged for clerical work only, though.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 26 2012,22:40   

Wtf does this even mean?

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F/N: C, please note the letter on the still warm pond, at a time CRD would have expected this to come up based on Victorian biographical praxis: ďLife and letters . . . ď


Maybe there is a real crisis in the homeland, and KF has been replaced by a random bullshit generating algorithm.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 26 2012,22:49   

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PPS: Do I need to translate that into German, gedankenexperiment, to get the point through to the dismissive objectors at Anti-Evo?

pompous bloviation does not an argument make.

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