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utidjian



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 23 2012,11:44   

Quote (Freddie @ Feb. 23 2012,10:38)
 
Quote (KF] [b]one of the chief @ willing disciples of that dark prince in recent years, herr Schicklegruber the foam- at- the- mouth carpet-chewer[/b)
:

I thought the term was "carpet-muncher"... so I looked it up:

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Q. Did Adolf Hitler have a nickname?
A. In some circles he was known as the "Teppichfresser" or "Carpet-Chewer" because of his tendency in later years to fly into an uncontrollable rage and have a good bite of the nearest carpet (obviously I doubt if they called him that to his face).


Well anyhow... trivial trivia is trivial.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 23 2012,12:02   

Woe to those who call genocide good.

[cough]Heddle et al[/cough]

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 23 2012,12:45   

Quote (Soapy Sam @ Feb. 23 2012,10:39)
Quote (keiths @ Feb. 23 2012,10:04)
Some good theotard from tgpeeler:
             
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I think the problem ultimately boils down to rebellion. If God is Reason, and He is (I AM WHO I AM – an expression of the Law of Identity and the basis for all thought, rational or otherwise, because it is the basis for all language) then to reject Reason is to reject God. We are not dealing with intellectual problems here, we are dealing with willfully disobedient (to the First Principles of rational thought) fools (Psalm 14:1). It’s a hard thing to say but there it is. I hope lurkers are being reached because I’ve never had one acknowledgement of undeniable truth “out here” in years of posting with the ELs and their ilk. At bottom, this is moral degeneracy because it is willful and obstinate rebellion against undeniable Truths. Isaiah warned against this when he said “woe to those who call evil good and good evil.” This is a violation of the law of identity. And woe to those who do it.
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Axel, February 22, 2012, 6:50 pm
Spot on, tg. Insightful and lucid.

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BrentFebruary 23, 2012 at 8:28 am
tgpeeler,

If that’s two cents’ worth I don’t think we need to worry about inflation just now. Very nice!

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William J MurrayFebruary 23, 2012 at 9:03 am
tgpeeler and StephenB,

Beautiful, truthful messages.

Yurgh! Are they deliberately trying to piss me off? "If God is Reason, [and I've obviously got the inside track on what is Reasonable] then to reject [my version of] Reason is to reject God"

"willful and obstinate rebellion against undeniable Truths"? Yep, that's it. It's completely undeniable and I'm just being awkward.

Still, they will have the last laugh from atop their fluffy clouds as I descend woefully into the Pit. They love us really.

It's nice to know that ID has nothing whatsoever to do with religion....

...On the other hand these people are very, very scary!!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 23 2012,16:17   

Quote (Freddie @ Feb. 23 2012,10:38)
Some great, almost poetical stuff from KF further up that thread too:
   
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What I am thinking is that what is really going on here is that we are in an era where ultra-modernism, aka post- modernism, is the conventional wisdom of the day in circles influenced by the sort of elites Santorum was fingering as dupes of the prince of darkness grim.

They've been playing Santorum's "Satan's out to get us and he's already gotten the snooty academics" speech on the radio here in Ireland.  All us good Catholics have been having a great laugh at that.  And here we thought fervently religious Dana, former Eurovision Song Contest winner, running for Irish president was a national embarrassment.

Then we remember Santorum might actually get elected and have the nuke launch codes...

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 23 2012,16:25   

The Chief Seattle speech might not be accurately transcribed (:)) but it was based on the author's recollection of the speech, Seattle was noted as a great orator, and it is still a beutiful sentiment even if it was filtered through the stylistic pen of a romantic era writer.

Just sayin. It's not a myth that he gave such a speech, just that it wasn't exactly transcribed so much as interpreted some years later.

And it is beautiful.

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Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 23 2012,16:44   

you're ass is a myth

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 23 2012,17:56   

Mythical you mean.

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Somebody thought of that, and someone believed it
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 23 2012,21:13   

fuck you i am not mean i am a really nice gal once you get to know me in the biblical sense

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

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I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 23 2012,21:45   

Quote (Tom A @ Feb. 23 2012,10:45)
 
Quote (Soapy Sam @ Feb. 23 2012,10:39)
 
Quote (keiths @ Feb. 23 2012,10:04)
Some good theotard from tgpeeler:
               
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I think the problem ultimately boils down to rebellion. If God is Reason, and He is (I AM WHO I AM – an expression of the Law of Identity and the basis for all thought, rational or otherwise, because it is the basis for all language) then to reject Reason is to reject God. We are not dealing with intellectual problems here, we are dealing with willfully disobedient (to the First Principles of rational thought) fools (Psalm 14:1). It’s a hard thing to say but there it is. I hope lurkers are being reached because I’ve never had one acknowledgement of undeniable truth “out here” in years of posting with the ELs and their ilk. At bottom, this is moral degeneracy because it is willful and obstinate rebellion against undeniable Truths. Isaiah warned against this when he said “woe to those who call evil good and good evil.” This is a violation of the law of identity. And woe to those who do it.
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Axel, February 22, 2012, 6:50 pm
Spot on, tg. Insightful and lucid.

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BrentFebruary 23, 2012 at 8:28 am
tgpeeler,

If that’s two cents’ worth I don’t think we need to worry about inflation just now. Very nice!

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William J MurrayFebruary 23, 2012 at 9:03 am
tgpeeler and StephenB,

Beautiful, truthful messages.

Yurgh! Are they deliberately trying to piss me off? "If God is Reason, [and I've obviously got the inside track on what is Reasonable] then to reject [my version of] Reason is to reject God"

"willful and obstinate rebellion against undeniable Truths"? Yep, that's it. It's completely undeniable and I'm just being awkward.

Still, they will have the last laugh from atop their fluffy clouds as I descend woefully into the Pit. They love us really.

It's nice to know that ID has nothing whatsoever to do with religion....

...On the other hand these people are very, very scary!!

Yesiree, them thar ijuts sure ain't reelijus.

tgpeeler on uncommon descent is:

Thomas G. Peeler

Check out his articles on this page:

god zombie

Also click on "ABOUT US" and then on "What We Believe".

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But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 23 2012,21:48   

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I wonder if Deuce knows about the difference between euclidean and non-euclidean geometry?

As mathy concepts go, one version of that is absolutely without parallel!

Henry

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 23 2012,21:51   

Quote (Freddie @ Feb. 23 2012,08:38)
Quote (keiths @ Feb. 23 2012,10:04)
Some good theotard from tgpeeler:
           
Quote
I think the problem ultimately boils down to rebellion. If God is Reason, and He is (I AM WHO I AM – an expression of the Law of Identity and the basis for all thought, rational or otherwise, because it is the basis for all language) then to reject Reason is to reject God. We are not dealing with intellectual problems here, we are dealing with willfully disobedient (to the First Principles of rational thought) fools (Psalm 14:1). It’s a hard thing to say but there it is. I hope lurkers are being reached because I’ve never had one acknowledgement of undeniable truth “out here” in years of posting with the ELs and their ilk. At bottom, this is moral degeneracy because it is willful and obstinate rebellion against undeniable Truths. Isaiah warned against this when he said “woe to those who call evil good and good evil.” This is a violation of the law of identity. And woe to those who do it.
$0.02

           
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Axel, February 22, 2012, 6:50 pm
Spot on, tg. Insightful and lucid.

10
BrentFebruary 23, 2012 at 8:28 am
tgpeeler,

If that’s two cents’ worth I don’t think we need to worry about inflation just now. Very nice!

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William J MurrayFebruary 23, 2012 at 9:03 am
tgpeeler and StephenB,

Beautiful, truthful messages.

Some great, almost poetical stuff from KF further up that thread too:
     
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What I am thinking is that what is really going on here is that we are in an era where ultra-modernism, aka post- modernism, is the conventional wisdom of the day in circles influenced by the sort of elites Santorum was fingering as dupes of the prince of darkness grim.

You know how hard I have come down on the point that if we can be got to swallow an absurdity, a necessarily false notion, it then corrupts our ability to discern truth and falsity, as it leads us to reject the truth that will obviously not conform to such error.

So, what happens when his lowness and the lowerarchy –C S Lewis got that part dead right — get our civilisation to drink deep and long at the well-springs of absurdity?

Oh yes, I know I know, it is seen as utterly dummy fundy or the like to suggest that — horrors — there actually might be such a thing as the prince of darkness grim.

Well, let me cite the Catholic — yes, they were Roman Catholics, and were standing in the name of the principles they had been taught through the Catholic church [and I say that as an Evangelical Protestant] — martyrs of the White Rose movement on the subject, in exposing and explaining one of the chief, willing disciples of that dark prince in recent years, herr Schicklegruber the foam- at- the- mouth carpet-chewer:


My emphasis - for no other reason than as a brit I enjoy the odd double-entendre and I have no qualms in pulling out sentences that can be used to quote-mine KF at all.   I must admit, "foam-at-the-mouth carpet chewer" in reference to Herr Schicklegruber (why does KF never just call him Hitler - regardless, it appears spelled incorrectly anyway) did make me laugh, but only as that's how I imagine many of the regular IDiots act in the 'real' world.  It's also a refreshing change from ad hominen, soaked in oiled herrings etc.

His OP is another magnum opus as well: weighing in at 4,738 words, or 4,500 words if you take out the scripture.

Good stuff guys, keep it coming!

[edit] I can't image how I spelled imagine wrong

santorum was fingering elites? As KF would say, FOR SHAME!!!!!

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But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2012,01:56   

all science, etc...

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2012,02:11   

Quote (BWE @ Feb. 23 2012,16:25)
The Chief Seattle speech might not be accurately transcribed (:)) but it was based on the author's recollection of the speech, Seattle was noted as a great orator, and it is still a beutiful sentiment even if it was filtered through the stylistic pen of a romantic era writer.

Just sayin. It's not a myth that he gave such a speech, just that it wasn't exactly transcribed so much as interpreted some years later.

And it is beautiful.

Sorry, you're engaging in wishful thinking. I agree those are beautiful sentiments, and it would be even nicer if Chief Seattle had said them. But those were not his words. Here's a good analysis.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2012,03:29   

Quote (BWE @ Feb. 24 2012,01:56)
Mythical you mean.

Mine's musical,
..... i can do an entire brass section

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2012,03:30   

Quote (Henry J @ Feb. 24 2012,05:48)
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I wonder if Deuce knows about the difference between euclidean and non-euclidean geometry?

As mathy concepts go, one version of that is absolutely without parallel!

Henry

you always go hyperbolic

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2012,03:37   

Quote (Trubble @ Feb. 24 2012,10:11)
Quote (BWE @ Feb. 23 2012,16:25)
The Chief Seattle speech might not be accurately transcribed (:)) but it was based on the author's recollection of the speech, Seattle was noted as a great orator, and it is still a beutiful sentiment even if it was filtered through the stylistic pen of a romantic era writer.

Just sayin. It's not a myth that he gave such a speech, just that it wasn't exactly transcribed so much as interpreted some years later.

And it is beautiful.

Sorry, you're engaging in wishful thinking. I agree those are beautiful sentiments, and it would be even nicer if Chief Seattle had said them. But those were not his words. Here's a good analysis.

PHHHT...... CHINESE WHISPERS, HOMO!

THAT WOULD MEAN THE SERMON ON THE MOUNT WAS MADE  UP BY A BUNCH OF ROMAN JEW LOVERS.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2012,04:21   

Quote (Trubble @ Feb. 24 2012,02:11)
Quote (BWE @ Feb. 23 2012,16:25)
The Chief Seattle speech might not be accurately transcribed (:)) but it was based on the author's recollection of the speech, Seattle was noted as a great orator, and it is still a beutiful sentiment even if it was filtered through the stylistic pen of a romantic era writer.

Just sayin. It's not a myth that he gave such a speech, just that it wasn't exactly transcribed so much as interpreted some years later.

And it is beautiful.

Sorry, you're engaging in wishful thinking. I agree those are beautiful sentiments, and it would be even nicer if Chief Seattle had said them. But those were not his words. Here's a good analysis.

Next thing, you'll be telling me there's no God.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2012,04:25   

Science all the way Part 74:  
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If you want lions, you have to have lambs. Those who condemn God for animal suffering are saying that God should have created in a world in which all animals were vegetarian and there were no parasites. But why should he have done so? Perhaps he wanted a world in which the plenitude of being could be expressed. Who are we to say what God should desire or execute?

And maybe He's a Sadist.

All science so far.

Link

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2012,04:30   

In that same thread, Nullasalus brings the tard:  
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Yes, it’s correct that even if Torley is right about the scope of sentience that there are still tremendous examples of evil. But if someone comes up and talks about (to use an extreme example) the excruciating pain that rocks experience during geographic processes and how this reflects on the existence of a benevolent God, I think it’s not only fair, but important to acknowledge the problems with attributing pain to rocks.
Then he closes with this one-liner:  
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That the argument can fall back to squirrels, then, is fine – fall back.


That whole thread is full of stuff like this.

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PTET



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2012,05:17   

Quote (CeilingCat @ Feb. 24 2012,04:25)
Science all the way Part 74:      
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If you want lions, you have to have lambs. Those who condemn God for animal suffering are saying that God should have created in a world in which all animals were vegetarian and there were no parasites. But why should he have done so? Perhaps he wanted a world in which the plenitude of being could be expressed. Who are we to say what God should desire or execute?

And maybe He's a Sadist.

All science so far.

Link

Forgive me, but isn't that exactly what they are claiming? That they know precisely what "God should desire or execute", for teh bibel tells them so?

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2012,05:19   

Countdown to.....

"My Skeptical Zone Hell", by Gil Dodgen*

* Son of a nuclear physicist, classical piano player and former Dawkins style atheist.

....appearing at UD, soon!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2012,05:37   

Quote (CeilingCat @ Feb. 24 2012,12:25)
Science all the way Part 74:      
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If you want lions, you have to have lambs. Those who condemn God for animal suffering are saying that God should have created in a world in which all animals were vegetarian and there were no parasites. But why should he have done so? Perhaps he wanted a world in which the plenitude of being could be expressed. Who are we to say what God should desire or execute?

And maybe He's a Sadist.

All science so far.

Link

Or he could have just invented Darwinism, Heavisideism,Hertzism,Laplacism,Eienstienism,Plankism,Maxwellism,Shintoism and called it a day. Woke up next morning invented Nasim, Post Modernism had lunch with Noah picked up his car from the Quantum Mechanics visited teh Grand Canyon and gone back to Usra Major or Udanus.

THOSE GOD CATS MAN
YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO TURN UP NEXT.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2012,08:33   

Quote (Woodbine @ Feb. 24 2012,05:19)
Countdown to.....

"My Skeptical Zone Hell", by Gil Dodgen*

* Son of a nuclear physicist, classical piano player and former Dawkins style atheist.

....appearing at UD, soon!

Someone pointed out:

http://theskepticalzone.com/wp....nt-4304

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Not quite. You saw increasingly vehement opposition because you promised to provide calculations, but didn't. You promised to present evidence, but didn't. You promised to explain what it was that caused you to reject the enormous complexity of biology in favor of the seductive simplicity of magic, but you didn't.

And now here you are saying that those armed with evidence can go right ahead and waste their time, but not even knowing the evidence, you nonetheless already know that it's irrelevant and there is zero chance of you actually learning enough to change your mind.

And for this, you want respect. And by amazing coincidence, over at UD all you have to do is recite evidence-free catechisms, and your support group applauds you, and commiserates at the terrible treatment you suffered over there where people NOTICE that you broke all your promises while providing nothing rational in your support. The very idea! Shame on those people!


And Gil responded:

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You are the primary reason I'm leaving this forum.


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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2012,08:56   

Quote (k.e.. @ Feb. 24 2012,03:37)
(snip) Darwinism, Heavisideism,Hertzism,Laplacism,Eienstienism,Plankism,Maxwellism,Shintoism  Nasim, Post Modernism (snip)

"Allll we are saaaaayyyyiiinnnngg...."

eta or for the more eclectic taste: He is resplendent in divergence.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2012,08:57   

Quote (CeilingCat @ Feb. 24 2012,02:30)
In that same thread, Nullasalus brings the tard:    
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Yes, it’s correct that even if Torley is right about the scope of sentience that there are still tremendous examples of evil. But if someone comes up and talks about (to use an extreme example) the excruciating pain that rocks experience during geographic processes and how this reflects on the existence of a benevolent God, I think it’s not only fair, but important to acknowledge the problems with attributing pain to rocks.
Then he closes with this one-liner:    
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That the argument can fall back to squirrels, then, is fine – fall back.


That whole thread is full of stuff like this.

Man them geographic processes are a bitch. Especially when the lead in your mechanical pencil breaks and the rain gets your map paper all wet.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2012,10:48   

KF argues:

 
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Such spaces, however, are 1 in 10^100 of the scope at the 500 bit solar system threshold identified. The scope of the observed cosmos level threshold of 1000 bits is 10^150 beyond that threshold.


But of course, how stupid of me not to have thought of that!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2012,10:52   

has that shit stain not figured out he is talking to himself yet?

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2012,14:25   

Quote (CeilingCat @ Feb. 24 2012,04:25)
Science all the way Part 74:    
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If you want lions, you have to have lambs. Those who condemn God for animal suffering are saying that God should have created in a world in which all animals were vegetarian and there were no parasites. But why should he have done so? Perhaps he wanted a world in which the plenitude of being could be expressed. Who are we to say what God should desire or execute?

And maybe He's a Sadist.

All science so far.

Link

FOR GOD'S SAKE! WILL NO ONE THINK OF THE PLANTS!!!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2012,14:38   

Quote (CeilingCat @ Feb. 24 2012,04:25)
Science all the way Part 74:      
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If you want lions, you have to have lambs. Those who condemn God for animal suffering are saying that God should have created in a world in which all animals were vegetarian and there were no parasites. But why should he have done so? Perhaps he wanted a world in which the plenitude of being could be expressed. Who are we to say what God should desire or execute?

And maybe He's a Sadist.

All science so far.

Link

I just go loopy with brain pain any time I encounter the argument for an "all-peaceful, no killing" pre-fall world. Forget the obvious carnivores and teeth structures, etc...what about simple fucking, offspring, and population control. Have the dipbeans that propose a peaceful Eden never set foot in an area where herbivores take over? Or heck...termites?

Retroactive sin my ass...those idiots suffer from retrograde stupidity.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 24 2012,14:42   

or your own gut flora...

anybody talking that shit don't really believe it or has brain damage

i mean how the fuck would that even work.  oh that's right, it wouldn't.

gordon i would like to see you fight my gut flora

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Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

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I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
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