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fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 03 2021,19:52   

It's been said before:

It's so cute when they pretend to do science.

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sparc



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 04 2021,08:58   

Doug Axe could have added a lecture of the first human couple.
"Does Science Rule Out a First Human Pair? Geneticist Richard Buggs Says No" is the first thing that shows up on the pages of te Biologic Institute that he is heading) and his co-worker Ann Gauger published some related work. One may ask why they need science when they are promoting Adam and Eve as the single origin of all mankind.

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 04 2021,12:47   

That might depend on when they claim that original pair were busy pairing.

I'd think the observed amount of variation today would take on the order of 100,000 or more years to produce from that small a genetic bottleneck, even if it's possible for one couple to do that.

But then again, I'm not a biologist.

  
Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 19 2021,20:35   

Casey Luskin has a really real publication;

Luskin, C., Wilson, A., Gold, D. and Hofmann, A., 2019. The Pongola Supergroup: Mesoarchaean Deposition Following Kaapvaal Craton Stabilization. In The Archaean Geology of the Kaapvaal Craton, Southern Africa (pp. 225-254). Springer, Cham.

Tauxe, L., Luskin, C., Selkin, P., Gans, P. and Calvert, A., 2004. Paleomagnetic results from the Snake River Plain: Contribution to the time‐averaged field global database. Geochemistry, Geophysics, Geosystems, 5(8).

Edited by Dr.GH on Nov. 19 2021,18:44

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sparc



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 20 2021,03:28   

Quote (Dr.GH @ Nov. 19 2021,20:35)
Casey Luskin has a really real publication;

Luskin, C., Wilson, A., Gold, D. and Hofmann, A., 2019. The Pongola Supergroup: Mesoarchaean Deposition Following Kaapvaal Craton Stabilization. In The Archaean Geology of the Kaapvaal Craton, Southern Africa (pp. 225-254). Springer, Cham.

Tauxe, L., Luskin, C., Selkin, P., Gans, P. and Calvert, A., 2004. Paleomagnetic results from the Snake River Plain: Contribution to the time‐averaged field global database. Geochemistry, Geophysics, Geosystems, 5(8).

Abstract of the Luskin et. al., 2019:
 
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The Pongola Supergroup, deposited between 2.99 and 2.87 Ga on the southeast margin of the Kaapvaal Craton, is one of the least tectonically disturbed Mesoarchaean supracrustal sequences on Earth. Two groups comprise the Pongola Supergroup: the lower Nsuze Group, dominated by volcanic rocks ranging from basalt to basalt-andesite through intermediate to rhyolite compositions, and the upper Mozaan Group, dominated by sedimentary units, which may correlate with portions of the Witwatersrand Supergroup. Pongola Supergroup rocks are largely pristine, frequently preserving original sedimentary and volcanic structures and primary compositions. The depositional environment was an epicontinental sea subjected to sea-level oscillations, resulting in predominantly marginal marine siliciclastic deposits. BIFs, stromatolitic carbonates, glacial diamictites, Mn-rich shales and palaeosols elucidate Mesoarchaean surface processes and suggest shallow-marine oxygen oases under an anoxic atmosphere. The tectonic setting involved a marginal basin undergoing progressive thermal subsidence after magmatism. Palaeomagnetic results are inconsistent but suggest that the Kaapvaal Craton underwent significant wandering. The Pongola Supergroup exhibits two dominant structural domains, including north–northwest-trending rifts and thrust-related structures in the Northern and Central domains, and east–west-trending folds and thrust faults in the south. Economically, the Pongola Supergroup is insignificant apart from small gold deposits, and subeconomic deposits of iron, manganese and uranium.

Exactly, what you would expect from somebody who is denying evolution and is actually paid for doing so.

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Bob O'H



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2021,01:46   

This is very much what Lakatos called "normal science", or "boring science" as I think of it. I do include my own work in that category, in case there are any insomniacs wanting a late night read.

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