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Bob O'H



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2009,14:59   

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Between the Denyse, And the spasm
Between the complex, And the specification
Between the ID, And the dissent
Falls the Sweater
For Thine is the Kingdom

For Thine is, Tard is, For Thine is the

This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a meltdown


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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2009,14:59   

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-307931


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Allen_MacNeill

03/15/2009

2:45 pm
And kudos to DaveScot, for making it plain that this website has apparently given up on even attempting to make reasoned arguments in favor of intelligent design. Clearly, it’s now the website for full-time Christian apologists whose only intellectual tools are character assassination, guilt by association, and ad hominem argumentation. Having failed to produce even the slightest shred of empirical evidence for ID, the commentators here have decided that their best course of action is to smear all evolutionary biologists by linking them to views held by people now dead for over a century.

Bravo DaveScot, and bravo to Mapou and company for showing ID’s true colors!



The big tent was always doomed, once you could say what was really on your mind.

ETA for baninantion records, this was the path:

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2009,15:01   

Quote (Bob O'H @ Mar. 15 2009,14:59)
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Between the Denyse, And the spasm
Between the complex, And the specification
Between the ID, And the dissent
Falls the Sweater
For Thine is the Kingdom

For Thine is, Tard is, For Thine is the

This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a meltdown

oh, bravo, sir, BRAVO.

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Bob O'H



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2009,15:12   

Mapou is joining in the fun
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Mapou

03/15/2009

2:46 pm

Kellogg, my point is that highly intelligent people in the scientific community who studied evolution their entire lives came to racist conclusions. It’s not hard to understand why. The truth is that the theory of evolution directly leads to racism. Only a dishonest person would deny this obvious fact.

Mapou made the point by citing Crick and Watson who have done virtually nothing (at most) in evolutionary biology.  Certainly neither has studied it for an extensive period of time.

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2009,15:17   

Quote (GCUGreyArea @ Mar. 15 2009,12:33)
I just had to capture this in full in case the thread gets deleted:
   
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Racism Sans Darwin - other inspirations
DaveScot

Since we now seem to be focused on racism instead of design detection and my motto is “When in Rome do as the Romans do” in order to balance the picture of the theory of evolution’s role in racist movements let’s look at some of the other modern history where evolution isn’t the banner around which racists rally.

Selected bits from Religious Tolerance on Christian Identity Movements . Timothy McVeigh, for instance, was a card carrying CIM member.

   History:

   The Christian Identity movement is a movement of many extremely conservative Christian churches and religious organizations, extreme right wing political groups and survival groups. Some are independent; others are loosely interconnected. According to Professor Michael Barkun, one of the leading experts in the Christian Identity movement, “This virulent racist and anti-Semitic theology, which is practiced by over 50,000 people in the United States alone, is prevalent among many right wing extremist groups and has been called the ‘glue’ of the racist right.”

   The largest Christian Identity movement has traditionally been the Ku Klux Klan which was reorganized in 1915 by William Simmons, a Christian pastor. He had been inspired by the film The Birth of a Nation which portrayed the KKK as a champion of white civilization. The KKK slid into obscurity by the second World War, but was revitalized in the mid 1950’s as a reaction to enforced racial integration in the southern US.

   Quoting the FBI’s Megiddo Report on domestic terrorism: 5

   “Wesley Swift is considered the single most significant figure in the early years of the Christian Identity movement in the United States. He popularized it in the right-wing by ‘combining British-Israelism, a demonic anti-Semitism, and political extremism.’ 6 He founded his own church in California in the mid 1940s where he could preach this ideology. In addition, he had a daily radio broadcast in California during the 1950s and 60s, through which he was able to proclaim his ideology to a large audience. With Swift’s efforts, the message of his church spread, leading to the creation of similar churches throughout the country. In 1957, the name of his church was changed to The Church of Jesus Christ Christian, which is used today by Aryan Nations (AN) churches.”

   “One of Swift’s associates, William Potter Gale, was far more militant than Swift and brought a new element to Christian Identity churches. He became a leading figure in the anti-tax and paramilitary movements of the 1970s and 80s. There are numerous Christian Identity churches that preach similar messages and some espouse more violent rhetoric than others, but all hold fast to the belief that Aryans are God’s chosen race.”

   Other current organizations which follow Christian Identity beliefs are: American Nazi Party; Aryan Nations; Church of Jesus Christ Christian, Aryan Nations; Confederate Hammerskins; Jubilee, National Association for the Advancement of White People; The Order; radical modern offshoots of the original Posse Comitatus; Scriptures for America, White Aryan Resistance (WAR) and White Separatist Banner. Many small groups fade in and out of existence frequently.

   Beliefs about Armageddon:

   Quoting again the FBI’s Megiddo Report on domestic terrorism: 5

   “Christian Identity also believes in the inevitability of the end of the world and the Second Coming of Christ. It is believed that these events are part of a cleansing process that is needed before Christ’s kingdom can be established on earth. During this time, Jews and their allies will attempt to destroy the white race using any means available. The result will be a violent and bloody struggle — a war, in effect — between God’s forces, the white race, and the forces of evil, the Jews and nonwhites. Significantly, many adherents believe that this will be tied into the coming of the new millennium.”

   “The view of what Armageddon will be varies among Christian Identity believers. Some contend there will be a race war in which millions will die; others believe that the United Nations, backed by Jewish representatives of the anti-Christ, will take over the country and promote a New World Order. One Christian Identity interpretation is that white Christians have been chosen to watch for signs of the impending war in order to warn others. They are to then physically struggle with the forces of evil against sin and other violations of God’s law (i.e., race-mixing and internationalism); many will perish, and some of God’s chosen will be forced to wear the Mark of the Beast to participate in business and commerce. After the final battle is ended and God’s kingdom is established on earth, only then will the Aryan people be recognized as the one and true Israel.”

   “Christian Identity adherents believe that God will use his chosen race as his weapons to battle the forces of evil. Christian Identity followers believe they are among those chosen by God to wage this battle during Armageddon and they will be the last line of defense for the white race and Christian America. To prepare for these events, they engage in survivalist and paramilitary training, storing foodstuffs and supplies, and caching weapons and ammunition. They often reside on compounds located in remote areas.”

   The leadership of the more radical “CI” groups advocate, but do not themselves engage in violence against Jews, Blacks, and Homosexuals now, rather than waiting for Armageddon to begin.

   The Watchman web site contained a quote from a Christian Identity leader which gives a flavor of their style of rhetoric, and their predictions for the future of North America:

   “We are going to build the Kingdom of our God on this continent if we have to turn it into a Bosnia first! Death may find you in front of your one-eyed church of Satan or in the filthy bingo parlors where you worship your devil god, but be sure that you will not escape the consuming fire that is the real baptism of the Holy Ghost, The God of Racial Israel.2

There’s a lot more at the link along with references linked to the numbers. I’d like to ask the audience to consider where we can find more people in positions of socio-political leadership: Christian church members or people who hold a PhD in evolutionary biology? Darwin, I contend, was a piker when it comes to fomenting racism.


Looks like it DID get deleted.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2009,15:19   

Can't ETA,

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-307931


was the path, for banination records.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2009,15:21   

Barry, pram, toys, throws, out, there of:

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....ibutors

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15 March 2009
Note to UD Contributors
Barry Arrington
The moderation policy does not apply to you; you are held to a higher standard. I expect your posts to have at least some tangential relationship to Darwinism, ID, or the metaphysical or moral implications of each. The purpose of this site is not to provide a place for you to jump up and rant on one of your pet peeves.

     


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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2009,15:24   

Too funny!  BarryA just posted this batch of unredacted tard.  
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NOTE to UD CONTRIBUTORS

The moderation policy does not apply to you; you are held to a higher standard. I expect your posts to have at least some tangential relationship to Darwinism, ID, or the metaphysical or moral implications of each. The purpose of this site is not to provide a place for you to jump up and rant on one of your pet peeves.


Darwin=Hitler is apparently not on the list of "pet peeves" for BarryA...

ETA - Damn, you have to be quick here, even on a Sunday! Rich beat me to it.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2009,15:26   

Not to be out-Yeatsed:

That is no forum for sane men. The tard
In one another’s thrall, berks  with their muse
– Those lying generations – as if jarred,
The church-bell calls, the meekly-crowded pews,
Dolt, Dim and Dave, commend in terms most hard
Whatever is proposed, proved wrong, reused.
Caught in that brain-dead drooling all neglect
The simplest use of basic intellect.

Creationist Man is a pathetic thing,
To tattered stories grimly stuck, unless
Soul grab its mouse and click, and harder click
On every link on the Internet,
Nor is there Google-school but studying
Textbooks of their own magnificence
And therefore I have surfed the Web and come
To the holy forum of AtBCium.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2009,15:26   

The more I read from the TARD mines and from the overly religious just reinforces my opinion on them.  They are incapable of any thought other than a false dichotomy.

They see the world as:

1:  Black/White

2:  Right/Wrong

3:  Good/Evil

4:  Their religions views/heresy

5:  Their god/their devil

6:  Friend/Enemy

7:  Morality (theirs)/Immorality (what others do)

8:  Us/Them

Their mindset is one of predetermined correctness.  They "know" their god's correct.  They "know" their interpretation of this god's works is accurate and binding.  They know that they are being tested with "lies and fabrications" when they are presented with a point of view, or worse yet tangible evidence, that goes against their dogma.

So, and Daniel is an expert at this, when faced with facts that perhaps their ideals are wrong, they must retreat.  As was pointed out before, to deny their current beliefs could mean great losses for them.  They fear the loss of family and friends, their children even livelihood should they openly question their group's idealized version of what is right and what is wrong.  Thing is I'll bet money that there are more than a few that are suffering in the same way.

That is why they continue to rehash old, tired, oft refuted and out dated material.  It is comforting to them.  They understand it and it is real to them.  It is their safety blanket and when the world gets too hard and offers up too many evidences that may make them re-evaluate their ideals, they crawl right back to it.

It seems that many of them could easily fall into porn, alcoholism or many more addictions.  Religion is just another way to become addicted and they like it.  Just as the junkie tries to get their friends to get hooked with them, the over religious want others to partake of their drug or addiction of choice.  Those who recognize this in themselves figure that if they didn't have Jesus they'd be a junkie, pervert or worse figure that those who don't have Jesus already are.

It is interesting the people who after finding out that I am not religious comment and wonder why I'm not some sort of a criminal.  Some of them have asked me point blank why I don't just go out and rape, murder and more as I have, in their eyes, no moral center.  I ask them if they didn't go to church if they would be.  Too many have stated they probably would be "doing something illegal" as there would be no moral guidance in their life.

UD and Daniel show me everyday just how accurate I think my view of them really is.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2009,15:28   

Quote (Amadan @ Mar. 15 2009,15:26)
Not to be out-Yeatsed:

That is no forum for sane men. The tard
In one another’s thrall, berks  with their muse
– Those lying generations – as if jarred,
The church-bell calls, the meekly-crowded pews,
Dolt, Dim and Dave, commend in terms most hard
Whatever is proposed, proved wrong, reused.
Caught in that brain-dead drooling all neglect
The simplest use of basic intellect.

Creationist Man is a pathetic thing,
To tattered stories grimly stuck, unless
Soul grab its mouse and click, and harder click
On every link on the Internet,
Nor is there Google-school but studying
Textbooks of their own magnificence
And therefore I have surfed the Web and come
To the holy forum of AtBCium.

Sweet.  "And harder click" -- too much.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2009,15:30   

Drat / Dang*


*delete based on number of teeth.

Someone called Barry on his intellectual inconsistencies, but he's nuked  and closed the comments (and I didn't catch it). And so a new, open age of UD is born..

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2009,15:31   

David Kellogg, Man of Rhetoric, asks what we're all wondering
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David Kellogg

03/15/2009

3:15 pm

I’d really like to understand what “higher standard” is met by the recent posts smearing Darwin and insinuating that evolutionary biology is racist and/or that evolutionary biologists are probably racists if they don’t respond to Denyse’s ultimatum.

Presumably insulting the other side ("Darwinbots", "Darwiniods") doesn't count either.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2009,15:33   

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Note to UD Contributors
Barry Arrington

The moderation policy does not apply to you; you are held to a higher standard. I expect your posts to have at least some tangential relationship to Darwinism, ID, or the metaphysical or moral implications of each. The purpose of this site is not to provide a place for you to jump up and rant on one of your pet peeves.  DaveScot will no longer be posting at UD.


And a comment which is no longer there.

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David Kellogg
03/15/2009
3:15 pm
I’d really like to understand what “higher standard” is met by the recent posts smearing Darwin and insinuating that evolutionary biology is racist and/or that evolutionary biologists are probably racists if they don’t respond to Denyse’s ultimatum.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2009,15:33   

Quote (Bob O'H @ Mar. 15 2009,15:31)
David Kellogg, Man of Rhetoric, asks what we're all wondering
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David Kellogg

03/15/2009

3:15 pm

I’d really like to understand what “higher standard” is met by the recent posts smearing Darwin and insinuating that evolutionary biology is racist and/or that evolutionary biologists are probably racists if they don’t respond to Denyse’s ultimatum.

Presumably insulting the other side ("Darwinbots", "Darwiniods") doesn't count either.

Gerrin there Bob! This comment is the nuked one I mention above, erm, 'onlookers'.

High-fives bob.

HAR HAR THIS IS BARRY:



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2009,15:36   

This was the other comment:
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Domoman

03/15/2009

3:10 pm

So that explains where the post I just looked at ran off to…

lol

I've saved the page, just in case.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2009,15:36   

Oi! Be careful what you wish for.

If they're not allowed to be rude about us, would we have to be nice about them?

UD without bannination would be like religion without damnation. What would be the point?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2009,15:37   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 15 2009,15:33)
Quote (Bob O'H @ Mar. 15 2009,15:31)
David Kellogg, Man of Rhetoric, asks what we're all wondering
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David Kellogg

03/15/2009

3:15 pm

I’d really like to understand what “higher standard” is met by the recent posts smearing Darwin and insinuating that evolutionary biology is racist and/or that evolutionary biologists are probably racists if they don’t respond to Denyse’s ultimatum.

Presumably insulting the other side ("Darwinbots", "Darwiniods") doesn't count either.
Gerrin there Bob! This comment is the nuked one I mention above, erm, 'onlookers'.

High-fives bob.

HAR HAR THIS IS BARRY:


Of course he's cowardly.

They tried to "show up" "Darwinists" but failed totally so they ran for cover, ignoring that their ass had been chewed out and that they are wearing their ass as a hat.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2009,15:38   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 15 2009,15:17)
Looks like it DID get deleted.

Just as well I captured the whole thread before I did a screen refresh, then, isn't it?

I think the aliens thread got flushed down the loo for the same reason, though.  

Last few posts were joking around about aliens coming to Earth.  Nothing really about ID at all.  

'Course, the last post mentioned time travel and the TARDIS.  Maybe that did it.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2009,15:39   

Quote (Jkrebs @ Mar. 15 2009,15:33)
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Note to UD Contributors
Barry Arrington

The moderation policy does not apply to you; you are held to a higher standard. I expect your posts to have at least some tangential relationship to Darwinism, ID, or the metaphysical or moral implications of each. The purpose of this site is not to provide a place for you to jump up and rant on one of your pet peeves.  DaveScot will no longer be posting at UD.


And a comment which is no longer there.

 
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David Kellogg
03/15/2009
3:15 pm
I’d really like to understand what “higher standard” is met by the recent posts smearing Darwin and insinuating that evolutionary biology is racist and/or that evolutionary biologists are probably racists if they don’t respond to Denyse’s ultimatum.

Barry added the banning of DaveScot at the same time he deleted the comments.  

DaveScot getting banned at UD: surely, a sign of the End Times?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2009,15:40   

How will DaveTard react to his being censored? Will he enlist a crap crack team of DI scholars for a culture war on 'blogademic freedom'?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2009,15:41   

DAVETARD, BANNINATED, AGAIN.

Someone call Ed Brayton & PZ meyers, this is front page news.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2009,15:41   

Quote (Amadan @ Mar. 15 2009,15:36)
Oi! Be careful what you wish for.

If they're not allowed to be rude about us, would we have to be nice about them?

UD without bannination would be like religion without damnation. What would be the point?

Personally I think that if one really wanted to get under their skin, being nice but pointing out their rudeness in a polite and "matter of fact" manner would be the way to go.

As much a I want to make fun of them and reach through the monitor to wring their scrawny little pencil necks, I know that killing them with kindness will work the best as it will easily be shown who is the rude moron.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2009,15:49   

Damn!  These threads are being  zapped quicker'n red shirts on a Star Trek away team.

And DaveScot banned?  My blogiverse is tottering!

The new open, tolerant moderation policy didn't last long, did it?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2009,15:57   

Quote (FrankH @ Mar. 15 2009,15:41)
 
Quote (Amadan @ Mar. 15 2009,15:36)
Oi! Be careful what you wish for.

If they're not allowed to be rude about us, would we have to be nice about them?

UD without bannination would be like religion without damnation. What would be the point?

Personally I think that if one really wanted to get under their skin, being nice but pointing out their rudeness in a polite and "matter of fact" manner would be the way to go.

As much a I want to make fun of them and reach through the monitor to wring their scrawny little pencil necks, I know that killing them with kindness will work the best as it will easily be shown who is the rude moron.

Have to disagree.

There is a subset of the creationist herd that may be open to persuasion that they've been fed the wrong story. They tend to be the more intelligent and engaged ones who really just don't know the facts or what scientists actually say. Confronting them with the harsh realities of science etc will only reinforce their belief in the false salvation/evolution dichotomy, because you are attacking them. However, what does get through to them is seeing the dishonesty of their own side. UD (as faithfully observed here) does that nicely. Wouldn't it be a shame if they took that toy away from us?

Then of course there are the lost causes who bring their crayons to the debates at UD. Sadly, they won't let me in to play any more. But they're fun to poke sticks at from outside the cage.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2009,16:01   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 15 2009,15:41)
DAVETARD, BANNINATED, AGAIN.

Someone call Ed Brayton & PZ meyers, this is front page news.

Yeah!  I called it - what do I win????

Too bad my NCAA bracket picks will not be nearly as good. :(

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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2009,16:02   

Quote (Amadan @ Mar. 15 2009,15:36)
Oi! Be careful what you wish for.

If they're not allowed to be rude about us, would we have to be nice about them?

UD without bannination would be like religion without damnation. What would be the point?

Amadan - Thank you for tne new Sig Line!

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Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
Bob O'H



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2009,16:04   

Quote (Hermagoras @ Mar. 15 2009,15:39)
 Barry added the banning of DaveScot at the same time he deleted the comments.  

DaveScot getting banned at UD: surely, a sign of the End Times?

One day our children will ask us where we were when we heard that DaveScot had been banned.  Truly a historic day.

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ID theorists don’t postulate a designer for their arguments. - Crandaddy
There is no connection between a peppered moth, natural selection, and religion that I can see. - FtK

   
J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2009,16:05   

Quote (Bob O'H @ Mar. 15 2009,16:04)
Quote (Hermagoras @ Mar. 15 2009,15:39)
 Barry added the banning of DaveScot at the same time he deleted the comments.  

DaveScot getting banned at UD: surely, a sign of the End Times?

One day our children will ask us where we were when we heard that DaveScot had been banned.  Truly a historic day.

Beware the Ides of March...

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Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
Hermagoras



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2009,16:08   

Quote (J-Dog @ Mar. 15 2009,16:05)
Quote (Bob O'H @ Mar. 15 2009,16:04)
Quote (Hermagoras @ Mar. 15 2009,15:39)
 Barry added the banning of DaveScot at the same time he deleted the comments.  

DaveScot getting banned at UD: surely, a sign of the End Times?

One day our children will ask us where we were when we heard that DaveScot had been banned.  Truly a historic day.

Beware the Ides of March...

Et tu, BarryA?

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