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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2008,14:50   

My daughter has qualified for a Study Abroad program for next year, and narrowed down her choices to Swansea, Wales, or Edinburgh Scotland.

She is a Chemical Engineering Major

She Plays Rugby

Where do you think she should go and why?

edited for extremely bad spelling.

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JohnW



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2008,15:08   

Quote (J-Dog @ Mar. 14 2008,12:50)
My daughter has qualified for a Study Abroad program for next year, and narrowed down her choices to Swansea, Wales, or Edinbourough Scotland.

She is a Chemical Engineering Major

She Plays Rugby

She is very quiet and shy

Where do you think she should go and why?

I've never heard of Edinbourough.  There is a town called Edinburgh, which, despite not being in Yorkshire, is a nice place*.  Interesting old buildings (World Heritage Site), lots of history, good pubs, and art and culture out the wazoo.  The main downside is it's going to be quite expensive to live there.

Swansea, unfortunately, is in Wales.






* My brother's girlfriend is from Glasgow.  If she asks, I never said that.

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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2008,15:16   

Quote (JohnW @ Mar. 14 2008,15:08)
Quote (J-Dog @ Mar. 14 2008,12:50)
My daughter has qualified for a Study Abroad program for next year, and narrowed down her choices to Swansea, Wales, or Edinbourough Scotland.

She is a Chemical Engineering Major

She Plays Rugby

She is very quiet and shy

Where do you think she should go and why?

I've never heard of Edinbourough.  There is a town called Edinburgh, which, despite not being in Yorkshire, is a nice place*.  Interesting old buildings (World Heritage Site), lots of history, good pubs, and art and culture out the wazoo.  The main downside is it's going to be quite expensive to live there.

Swansea, unfortunately, is in Wales.






* My brother's girlfriend is from Glasgow.  If she asks, I never said that.

Yeah... I hear it's a city in some place called Scotland.

Sorry about that - I googled too, and thought I had the right spelling. Fortunately, she's smarter than me.  Takes after her Mom.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2008,15:21   

She'll find the Welsh easier to understand, I think.

Edinburgh isn't proper Scotland, IMHO.

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JohnW



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2008,15:26   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 14 2008,13:21)
She'll find the Welsh easier to understand, I think.

True.  But is that a good thing?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2008,17:42   

I would go with Edinburgh if I was in this situation. It's spectacularly beautiful and pretty cosmopolitan and it's very easy to get to Glasgow, Newcastle and London. But then I don't know much about Swansea - much more industrial I imagine, but south Wales has been experiencing something of a renaissance recently.

Which university is she going to? That makes a difference too - there are more than one in each city I think.

  
Jake



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2008,17:46   

Edinburgh is a lovely place, although it is rather expensive and has lots of tourists. Edinburgh Uni. has an very good reputation as well. I stayed in one of the halls of residence last year when I went there for a wedding and they were fairly good (better than I got as a student, anyway...)

I dont know much about Swansea. Most of South Wales is old ex-coal and industry country, maybe not as nice as Edinburgh. Although the Uni isnt one of the top ones I think its OK. On the plus side Wales is really the place to go for the rugby.

Whatever she chooses, Britain is a cool place (although as a Brit Im biased) and Im sure she will enjoy it.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2008,17:57   

Quote (Jake @ Mar. 14 2008,23:46)
Edinburgh is a lovely place, although it is rather expensive and has lots of tourists. Edinburgh Uni. has an very good reputation as well. I stayed in one of the halls of residence last year when I went there for a wedding and they were fairly good (better than I got as a student, anyway...)

I dont know much about Swansea. Most of South Wales is old ex-coal and industry country, maybe not as nice as Edinburgh. Although the Uni isnt one of the top ones I think its OK. On the plus side Wales is really the place to go for the rugby.

Whatever she chooses, Britain is a cool place (although as a Brit Im biased) and Im sure she will enjoy it.

I feel I have to defend South Wales. It's a beautiful place, with friendly people, and would be cheaper to live in than Edinburgh  (although practically everywhere is).

That said, despite the love of rugby being more likely to be satiated in Swansea, Edinburgh Uni will probably be a better choice, because I KNOW that place is a fantastic University, whereas I don't know much about Swansea as a university.

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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2008,18:10   

Thank you all - I sent her a link, but it looks to me like a win-win with no real wrong answer.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2008,18:28   

Edinburgh. Swansea is a dive.

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Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 14 2008,22:53   

Louis is welsh.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2008,00:39   

Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Mar. 14 2008,21:53)
Louis is welsh.

I'm part Scots-Irish. So I suggest Edinburgh. But not for that reason - because I'm also part Welsh. ;)

Congratulations to your daughter, J-Dog!

P.S. Our distant British relatives aren't speaking to us. :)

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2008,04:02   

1) I am not Welsh. Erasmus is deluding himself because he likes to dress up as a sheep and hopes I'm a Welshman for the obvious sordid reason. Sorry Erasmus, but as I told you last time: "No. Not with those hips, sweetheart."

2) If it's rugby she wants to experience then Wales is currently the place to be. (Aside: Well done Wales! A very well deserved Grand Slam. I am genuinely pleased for you)

3) If it's education she wants then Edinburgh is the place, a very decent uni. Swansea's not bad, it's just not as good as Edinburgh. I don't know much about Chem Eng, but the Chem dept at Edinburgh is well regarded. Swansea has been sadly going a little downhill, more due to national politics than the fault of the academics who work there sadly.

HTH

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2008,05:40   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 14 2008,15:21)
She'll find the Welsh easier to understand, I think.

Edinburgh isn't proper Scotland, IMHO.

Thats because all these foreigners come to live here.

Just before you all let loose with the jokes, I was born and brought up in Edinburgh, went to school in the city centre, etc.  Unfortunately the city ahs changed somewhat over the years, only marginally for the better.


As for J-Dogs daughter, Edinburgh is a medium sized town, there is definitely rugby due to the penchant for yahs to come to Edinburgh university.  I would reccomend it over Swansea unless you like to live in Wales.  Of course it will be a bit colder and windier in Edinburgh.  It depends on what sort of amenities your daughter likes, eg bookshops, Edinburgh has lots.  Nightclubs, ditto.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2008,09:44   

Quote (guthrie @ Mar. 16 2008,05:40)
As for J-Dogs daughter, Edinburgh is a medium sized town, there is definitely rugby due to the penchant for yahs to come to Edinburgh university. I would reccomend it over Swansea unless you like to live in Wales. Of course it will be a bit colder and windier in Edinburgh. It depends on what sort of amenities your daughter likes, eg bookshops, Edinburgh has lots. Nightclubs, ditto.

Guthrie - thanks for the post - but,  me just being a dumb Yank, I have to ask what is a "yahs"?

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2008,10:56   

"Yah" is an insult hurled by inadequate members of the lower social orders and clean limbed, wonderful individuals who have been properly educated.

Or something like that ;-)

Louis

P.S. Derives from the fact that chinless wonders are often found to say "okay, yah?" to every sodding comment. It does not in any way make me want to kill them. Oh no. That judge acquitted me.

P.P.S. Basically Guthrie is pointing out that Edinburgh Uni is one of the many havens (St Andrews, Durham etc) for those members of the monied/upper middle classes who had a private school education. Typically "Yahs" were not smart enough to make the cut for entry to Cambridge or the other place, but were smart enough to be able to string a sentence together sufficiently well to blag their way through Clearing onto some humanities or social science course at a Red Brick (perhaps even Russell Group) university. See Wikipedia entry for "Future Foxton's Estate Agents in London and People Most Likely To Bankrupt Their Investment Bank/Hedge Fund". ;-)

So, when your daughter is far from home and being hit on in a bar by drunken morons, at least she will be being hit on by comparatively well bred drunken morons from a good home who have a decent chance of living in or near Clapham.

Sorry, far too many Brit in-jokes there for me to unravel.

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2008,10:58   

I'm sorry, perhaps my utter contempt for many of my former school mates didn't properly come through in that previous post.

It should have done.

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2008,11:47   

I guess it would really suck to get buggered in the locker room before the game and then sill have to sit the bench on one of those teams Louis so we understand that you still have some resentment left over.  You seem to be handling it well.  Score one for maturity!

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2008,12:20   

Chess teams don't have "locker" rooms though.

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2008,14:12   

Chapeau to Erasmus and Bob. Very witty insults. Very witty. I'd say that both of you were well on the way to full wit.

About halfway 'twould appear.

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2008,16:51   

Louis got it about right.

J-dog- surely you can find out in advance if there is a womans rugby team at Swansea or Edinburgh.  I'm sure there will be one at Edinburgh, we had a womans rugby team in St Andrews, and I'm sure they played Edinburgh.  

As for yahs, they say "yah" instead of "yes".  Just to give you an idea, I was back up at St Andrews last year, and thougth I'd drop by one of the university halls I had stayed at when I was there.  Since I was there they've actually knocked it down and rebuilt it (Nothing to do with me).  So I drive into the car park and realise there are lots of cars that are only 1 or 2 years old.  Or in other words, in the world of yahs, your parents will give you a new car when you go away to uni.  (Or your summer job at uncle johns merchant bank will pay enough to buy you a new car)

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2008,18:12   

Quote (guthrie @ Mar. 16 2008,16:51)
Louis got it about right.

J-dog- surely you can find out in advance if there is a womans rugby team at Swansea or Edinburgh. I'm sure there will be one at Edinburgh, we had a womans rugby team in St Andrews, and I'm sure they played Edinburgh.

As for yahs, they say "yah" instead of "yes". Just to give you an idea, I was back up at St Andrews last year, and thougth I'd drop by one of the university halls I had stayed at when I was there. Since I was there they've actually knocked it down and rebuilt it (Nothing to do with me). So I drive into the car park and realise there are lots of cars that are only 1 or 2 years old. Or in other words, in the world of yahs, your parents will give you a new car when you go away to uni. (Or your summer job at uncle johns merchant bank will pay enough to buy you a new car)

Guthrie - yes, thanks, through a "personal communication", I found out that Edinburgh does indeed have a women's rugby ream, and a couple of the players will even be on my daughter's team when they play in Germany over spring break this year.

Since the German's are expecting them to go cross-channel at Pas De Calais, I recommended they go in at Normandy. Their driver, Geogeanne Patton, wants them to agressively push through France, breakthrough the defenses at the Siegfried line, and thinks they'll be in Berlin very quickly.

added in edit:  And don't call me Shirley...

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 17 2008,05:41   

Scottish women rugby players? They're so butch the Scotsmen wear the skirts.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 17 2008,10:00   

Quote (Zarquon @ Mar. 17 2008,05:41)
They're so butch the Scotsmen wear the skirts.

And they referred to those Scotsmen as The Ladies from Hell.

  
guthrie



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 17 2008,10:14   

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Scottish women rugby players? They're so butch the Scotsmen wear the skirts.

We're in touch with our feminine side...

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 17 2008,10:48   

Quote (guthrie @ Mar. 17 2008,10:14)
 
Quote (Zarquon @ Mar. 17 2008,05:41)
Scottish women rugby players? They're so butch the Scotsmen wear the skirts.

We're in touch with our feminine side...

HA HA THIS IS YOU:



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guthrie



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 17 2008,18:08   

Whose he?

By the way, this is one of my hobbies:

  
J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 17 2008,20:39   

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Whose he?

By the way, this is one of my hobbies:

Okay - I'll play - - What is it?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 18 2008,02:51   

It's a very small kirk (or "church" to those of us from the right side of Hadrians's Wall).

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guthrie



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 18 2008,10:49   

Its my replica greek fire, I've been waiting to see if Arden can come up with a witty retort, but perhaps he is afraid of flames...

  
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