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Tracy P. Hamilton Posts: 1239 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 04 2008,15:48    Must really be cranking out the results!  Go to http://genetics.mgh.harvard.edu/szostakweb/publications.html Oops, my bad.  it is http://www.biologicinstitute.org/ -------------- "Following what I just wrote about fitness, you’re taking refuge in what we see in the world."  PaV "The simple equation F = MA leads to the concept of four-dimensional space." GilDodgen "We have no brain, I don't, for thinking." Robert Byers

Hermagoras Posts: 1260 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 04 2008,17:10    Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ Feb. 04 2008,15:48) Must really be cranking out the results!  Go to http://genetics.mgh.harvard.edu/szostakweb/publications.html Oops, my bad.  it is http://www.biologicinstitute.org/ How long has it been like that?  Hilarious. -------------- "I am not currently proving that objective morality is true. I did that a long time ago and you missed it." -- StephenB http://paralepsis.blogspot.com/....pot.com

Doc Bill Posts: 1039 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 04 2008,17:25    The domain was registered in February, 2005. So, it's been like that, or worse (nothing) for three years. On second thought, nothing might be better, at least more accurate, than what they have now.

Chayanov Posts: 289 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 04 2008,17:32    Quote (Doc Bill @ Feb. 04 2008,17:25) The domain was registered in February, 2005. So, it's been like that, or worse (nothing) for three years. On second thought, nothing might be better, at least more accurate, than what they have now. Indeed. "Coming soon" suggests they will actually have something to add in the near future, when everyone knows they don't. -------------- Help! Marxist literary critics are following me!

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 04 2008,17:58    Quote (Chayanov @ Feb. 04 2008,17:32) Quote (Doc Bill @ Feb. 04 2008,17:25) The domain was registered in February, 2005. So, it's been like that, or worse (nothing) for three years. On second thought, nothing might be better, at least more accurate, than what they have now. Indeed. "Coming soon" suggests they will actually have something to add in the near future, when everyone knows they don't. I don't want to spoil it for anyone, but  from looking at their graphic, I think they have Herpes.... Nobody has been getting too close to them and swapping bodily fluids have they?  Sal?  Sal? -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Mr_Christopher Posts: 1238 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 04 2008,18:17    Quote (Chayanov @ Feb. 04 2008,17:32) Quote (Doc Bill @ Feb. 04 2008,17:25) The domain was registered in February, 2005. So, it's been like that, or worse (nothing) for three years. On second thought, nothing might be better, at least more accurate, than what they have now. Indeed. "Coming soon" suggests they will actually have something to add in the near future, when everyone knows they don't. Maybe this is an example of them "seeing into the future" that Behe spoke of while on the stand. -------------- Uncommon Descent is a moral cesspool, a festering intellectual ghetto that intoxicates and degrades its inhabitants - Stephen Matheson

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 04 2008,18:34    I can't believe that none of you noticed the cheesy-poofs on the banner! -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

keiths Posts: 2195 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 04 2008,22:33    Quote (Kristine @ Feb. 04 2008,18:34) I can't believe that none of you noticed the cheesy-poofs on the banner! A couple of them are even reproducing.  It's like a DaveTard wet dream. -------------- And the set of natural numbers is also the set that starts at 0 and goes to the largest number. -- Joe G Please stop putting words into my mouth that don't belong there and thoughts into my mind that don't belong there. -- KF

argystokes Posts: 766 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 05 2008,11:37    I drove by the address for the BI yesterday evening. I couldn't find the place, but it was late and I didn't really want to be prowling around. Hopefully this Saturday I'll be able to check it out during the day, and maybe come back with pictures. -------------- "Why waste time learning, when ignorance is instantaneous?" -Calvin

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 05 2008,11:59    Quote (Doc Bill @ Feb. 04 2008,18:25) The domain was registered in February, 2005. So, it's been like that, or worse (nothing) for three years. On second thought, nothing might be better, at least more accurate, than what they have now. if they get some results they could publish in the ID journal, which went defunct in November 2005.

Bing Posts: 144 Joined: Mar. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 05 2008,12:50    C'mon now, there's a perfectly reasonable explanation for that webpage. As all of us in the Evil Atheist Conspiracy® know, HTML is short for HyperText Materialist Language.  And when the language was created the <GODDIDIT> tag was deprecated. Without the ability to embed <GODDIDIT> after the <HTML> tag in a webpage it forces them to deny the very existence of G*d.  And because the Evil Atheist Conspiracy® controls the intarwebz through the W3C (another of the far reaching tentacles of the EAC®) then Godly Wingnut Pseudoscientists cannot create pages for the web. Or they haven't accomplished shite and can't be bothered, just like their journal.

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 05 2008,15:35    Quote (stevestory @ Feb. 05 2008,10:59)   Quote (Doc Bill @ Feb. 04 2008,18:25) The domain was registered in February, 2005. So, it's been like that, or worse (nothing) for three years. On second thought, nothing might be better, at least more accurate, than what they have now. if they get some results they could publish in the ID journal, which went defunct in November 2005. Steve is just itchin’ for something to happen with that journal – you know, if we put our brains together we could lead these people to cough up some swell swill. The ID challenge was fun to watch (although beyond me), but to throw out a designed bone for them to carry without knowing its *ahem* true origin would really be a laugh and a half. And the more widely publicized the better. I think the “cancer research” angle is the way to go. -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 05 2008,16:18    Quote (argystokes @ Feb. 05 2008,12:37) I drove by the address for the BI yesterday evening. I couldn't find the place, ... Really?  Those places are usually pretty easy to find.  Maybe the name change confused you.  Just look for the big brown sign that says "UPS store". -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2008,11:57    Here it is.  A veritable hive of activity, judging from the parking lot. -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2008,12:14    Quote (JohnW @ Feb. 06 2008,11:57) Here it is.  A veritable hive of activity, judging from the parking lot. I may be interpreting this wrong, but it looks to me as if they have put the Biologic Institute lab coats and goggles to good use.  Their clothes stay dry, and the car-wash soap stays out of their eyes. -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Mr_Christopher Posts: 1238 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2008,12:49    Sorry for the cross post, I put this in the uncommonly dense thread when it should have been put here. Quote Biologic Institute Mailing Address: 16310 NE 80th Street REDMOND WA 98052 Street Address: 16310 Ne 80th Street REDMOND WA 98052 Registration #24118   Status Active Also Known As Name(s) Biologic Phone (425)296-4400 Fax (425)296-4401 Email info@biologiinstitute.org Web Site www.biologicinstitute.org Purpose Categories Educational Institutions & Related Activities Science Federal EIN 84-1670187 Federal Tax Status Exempt 501C3 The following financial information has been provided to the Office of the Secretary of State by the above-named organization. Figures are for the organization's fiscal year ending Sep 30, 2006. Beginning Assets $ According to the financial information shown at left, this organization devoted 87% of its total expenses to program services during the year reported. Revenue $261,698 Program Services $217,823 Total Expenses $250,464 Ending Assets $16,950 Some Charitable Organizations are not required to submit financial information. If the financial report displayed contains zeros or outdated information, it is possible that the organization is "exempt" from registration or is newly registered. Please contact the Charities Program for more specific information. Commercial Fundraisers or Co-Venturers Utilized (past & present) None reported.   I just called them and got a recording.  Too bad! -------------- Uncommon Descent is a moral cesspool, a festering intellectual ghetto that intoxicates and degrades its inhabitants - Stephen Matheson

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2008,12:54    Quote (Mr_Christopher @ Feb. 06 2008,13:49) I just called them and got a recording.  Too bad! Out of morbid curiosity, what did it say? -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

J. O'Donnell Posts: 98 Joined: Sep. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2008,13:02    Quote (Mr_Christopher @ Feb. 06 2008,12:49) Sorry for the cross post, I put this in the uncommonly dense thread when it should have been put here. Quote Biologic Institute Mailing Address: 16310 NE 80th Street REDMOND WA 98052 Street Address: 16310 Ne 80th Street REDMOND WA 98052 Registration #24118   Status Active Also Known As Name(s) Biologic Phone (425)296-4400 Fax (425)296-4401 Email info@biologiinstitute.org Web Site www.biologicinstitute.org Purpose Categories Educational Institutions & Related Activities Science Federal EIN 84-1670187 Federal Tax Status Exempt 501C3 The following financial information has been provided to the Office of the Secretary of State by the above-named organization. Figures are for the organization's fiscal year ending Sep 30, 2006. Beginning Assets $ According to the financial information shown at left, this organization devoted 87% of its total expenses to program services during the year reported. Revenue $261,698 Program Services $217,823 Total Expenses $250,464 Ending Assets $16,950 Some Charitable Organizations are not required to submit financial information. If the financial report displayed contains zeros or outdated information, it is possible that the organization is "exempt" from registration or is newly registered. Please contact the Charities Program for more specific information. Commercial Fundraisers or Co-Venturers Utilized (past & present) None reported.   I just called them and got a recording.  Too bad! You know full well they don't answer the phone to dirty church burning ebola boys >: ( -------------- My blog: Animacules

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2008,13:22    Quote (JohnW @ Feb. 06 2008,10:57) Here it is.  A veritable hive of activity, judging from the parking lot. It's near Leary Way? Huh.

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2008,13:27    Quote (J. O'Donnell @ Feb. 06 2008,13:02) I just called them and got a recording.  Too bad! You know full well they don't answer the phone to dirty church burning ebola boys >: ([/quote] Hello! And thank you for calling the Biologic Institute, where "It doesn't have to be science, to make you money". If you have a Tard Delivery, please press #1. If you have any extra Logic to sell, please press #2 If you are from the Discovery Institute, please press #3. If you are a Church Elder, please press #4. If you are from the IRS please press #5. If you are William Dembski, please hang up and try again later.  Look Bill, we told you that we do NOT have any more Nixplanatory Filtors.  Yes, we're sorry that yours doesn't work too. If you are the landlord, we promise to get you your rent, just as soon as our experiments are completed. If you are a Church Burning Boy or Girl, please hang up on yourself. Thank you for calling the Biologic Institute, where " It doesn't have to be science, to make you money". -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Mr_Christopher Posts: 1238 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2008,13:35    Quote (Lou FCD @ Feb. 06 2008,12:54) Quote (Mr_Christopher @ Feb. 06 2008,13:49) I just called them and got a recording.  Too bad! Out of morbid curiosity, what did it say? Quote You've reached the Bio yadda yadda...If you know your party's extension...yadd yadda...if not wait for someone to come on the line....<wait>...ring ring....Hi this is Ann, I'm not at my desk right now but if you'll leave your name and number.... I'll try again later... -------------- Uncommon Descent is a moral cesspool, a festering intellectual ghetto that intoxicates and degrades its inhabitants - Stephen Matheson

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2008,14:13    Quote (Henry J @ Feb. 06 2008,11:22) Quote (JohnW @ Feb. 06 2008,10:57) Here it is.  A veritable hive of activity, judging from the parking lot. It's near Leary Way? Huh. No, it's in Redmond. -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

argystokes Posts: 766 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2008,15:41    Quote (JohnW @ Feb. 06 2008,12:13) Quote (Henry J @ Feb. 06 2008,11:22) Quote (JohnW @ Feb. 06 2008,10:57) Here it is.  A veritable hive of activity, judging from the parking lot. It's near Leary Way? Huh. No, it's in Redmond. Well, near Leary Way in Redmond. It's right in the Redmond Downtown area. -------------- "Why waste time learning, when ignorance is instantaneous?" -Calvin

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2008,15:55    Quote (argystokes @ Feb. 06 2008,13:41) Quote (JohnW @ Feb. 06 2008,12:13) Quote (Henry J @ Feb. 06 2008,11:22)   Quote (JohnW @ Feb. 06 2008,10:57) Here it is.  A veritable hive of activity, judging from the parking lot. It's near Leary Way? Huh. No, it's in Redmond. Well, near Leary Way in Redmond. It's right in the Redmond Downtown area. My bad.  I didn't know Redmond had a Leary Way.  I was thinking Ballard. -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2008,23:19    Quote (Kristine @ Feb. 05 2008,16:35) Quote (stevestory @ Feb. 05 2008,10:59)   Quote (Doc Bill @ Feb. 04 2008,18:25) The domain was registered in February, 2005. So, it's been like that, or worse (nothing) for three years. On second thought, nothing might be better, at least more accurate, than what they have now. if they get some results they could publish in the ID journal, which went defunct in November 2005. Steve is just itchin’ for something to happen with that journal I just find it hilarious that these losers spend millions of dollars, claim to have the public support of hundreds of scientists, have their own journal where the 'Darwinists' can't censor them, despite all this, still can't publish any actual research, and their followers are too dumb to figure out what that means.

oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 07 2008,03:08    Quote (Mr_Christopher @ Feb. 06 2008,13:35) Quote (Lou FCD @ Feb. 06 2008,12:54)   Quote (Mr_Christopher @ Feb. 06 2008,13:49) I just called them and got a recording.  Too bad! Out of morbid curiosity, what did it say?   Quote You've reached the Bio yadda yadda...If you know your party's extension...yadd yadda...if not wait for someone to come on the line....<wait>...ring ring....Hi this is Ann, I'm not at my desk right now but if you'll leave your name and number.... I'll try again later... Hey, is this "Ann" Ann Gauger, one of the speakers at a recent ID conference? http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2008/02/id-intelligent.html Odd how the default is to ring one of the "scientists" if nobody else is around. What, no receptionist? I guess that's sensible really, I doubt the phone hardly ever rings! -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4987 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 07 2008,06:03    Past history might indicate why no one there wants to answer the phone. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

argystokes Posts: 766 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 09 2008,20:21    I went over to the Biologic Institute today to do a bit of scouting. I had generally assumed it would be office-only, conceivably only a mailbox, but a possibility of containing a small lab. Anyway, it's part of a 3 story office building, and occupies part of the bottom floor. There appeared to be one door in, with a sign that said Discovery Institute Center for Science and Culture: Biologic Institute. I didn't know that the Biologic Institute was officially part of the DI. Unfortunately, all the blinds were closed on the outside windows. This was only the case for the BI, the rest of the office building had blinds open. One could speculate that they close the blinds to keep people like me from verifying that there is no lab space, but there are plenty of other reasons to do so. So the contents of the BI remain a mystery to me. Conclusion: There is certainly enough space in the office building for a lab. No one was working there on the weekend, so they probably don't have a lot of employees. -------------- "Why waste time learning, when ignorance is instantaneous?" -Calvin

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 09 2008,20:32    Quote (argystokes @ Feb. 09 2008,21:21) I went over to the Biologic Institute today to do a bit of scouting. I had generally assumed it would be office-only, conceivably only a mailbox, but a possibility of containing a small lab. Anyway, it's part of a 3 story office building, and occupies part of the bottom floor. There appeared to be one door in, with a sign that said Discovery Institute Center for Science and Culture: Biologic Institute. I didn't know that the Biologic Institute was officially part of the DI. Unfortunately, all the blinds were closed on the outside windows. This was only the case for the BI, the rest of the office building had blinds open. One could speculate that they close the blinds to keep people like me from verifying that there is no lab space, but there are plenty of other reasons to do so. So the contents of the BI remain a mystery to me. Conclusion: There is certainly enough space in the office building for a lab. No one was working there on the weekend, so they probably don't have a lot of employees. Odd.  You'd think all the experiments would be under 24/7 surveillance so they could be there to see the Intelligent Finger poking around. Does God show up on surveillance video? -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

Mister DNA Posts: 466 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Feb. 09 2008,21:01    Quote (Lou FCD @ Feb. 09 2008,20:32) Quote (argystokes @ Feb. 09 2008,21:21) I went over to the Biologic Institute today to do a bit of scouting. I had generally assumed it would be office-only, conceivably only a mailbox, but a possibility of containing a small lab. Anyway, it's part of a 3 story office building, and occupies part of the bottom floor. There appeared to be one door in, with a sign that said Discovery Institute Center for Science and Culture: Biologic Institute. I didn't know that the Biologic Institute was officially part of the DI. Unfortunately, all the blinds were closed on the outside windows. This was only the case for the BI, the rest of the office building had blinds open. One could speculate that they close the blinds to keep people like me from verifying that there is no lab space, but there are plenty of other reasons to do so. So the contents of the BI remain a mystery to me. Conclusion: There is certainly enough space in the office building for a lab. No one was working there on the weekend, so they probably don't have a lot of employees. Odd.  You'd think all the experiments would be under 24/7 surveillance so they could be there to see the Intelligent Finger poking around. Does God show up on surveillance video? And more importantly, did you leave a flaming bag of dog poop at the front door? -------------- CBEB's: The Church Burnin' Ebola Blog Thank you, Dr. Dembski. You are without peer when it comes to The Argument Regarding Design. - vesf

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