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|Quote (Jkrebs @ Sep. 29 2007,18:41)|
|I voted other, and agree with Henry J: as a current event in political science in regards to the larger "worldview war" being promulgated by many in the fundamentalist right.|
Jack, why is the "fundamentalist right" responsible for the "worldview war"?????
What about anti-ID atheist activists like PZ, Harris, Weinburg, Dawkins, Hitchens, Scott, Forrest, et. al. Are they not equally responsible for this "worldview war"? They are all scientists who have written books or articles which are often best sellers that promote science as a sword against religious belief. (I realize that Scott & Forrest refrain from outwardly stating that religion is a hinderence to society, but they base their atheism on science as well).
That's the biggest gripe I had with Miller's speech the other day. He lamblasted the "fundamentalists" for trying to use science to support their religious beliefs, yet not ONE mention of the antics from the "New Atheists" or whatever they want to be called.
They USE science as their basis for atheism (which is a faith belief regardless of what any of you will admit). Many of them have actually use terms like "war on religion", "The God Delusion", etc.
That certainly comes across in the classroom regardless of whether the professor says one word about his atheist leanings. PZ stated once that he tells his students at the beginning of his class that no one will be graded any differently regardless of their beliefs in regard to evolution or their belief or disbelief in God.
But he also mentioned that he will work darn hard at getting through to them how ridiculous their faith in God is considering what we know about science.
The "worldview war" cannot by any means be attributed to the "fundamentalist right", and we must remember that the fundamentalist left have complete control of our classrooms at present.
The rights of religious people have all but been completely striped from the schools, yet atheists would like to see even more taken away. Even the cross necklaces being worn by the teachers are at risk of being ripped off and trashed (I've seen this complaint mentioned several times at PZ's palace).
Do you think this behavior is helping the culture war? Do you think this is helping science? It's turning it into a three ring circus!
"Evolution is a creationism and just as illogical [as] the other pantheistic creation myths" -forastero