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KimvdLinde



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,20:48   

Well, I think Kevin better starts to do some repenting before the circus is going to destroy him and his career......

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,21:06   

Quote (Kristine @ Mar. 24 2008,15:55)
Quote (BWE @ Mar. 24 2008,12:42)
This.

Is.

The.

Best.

Thread.

Ever.

Kristine, I love you. Shimmy, hugs, whatever you've got going.

Count me among your hardcore fan base.

Thanks, man. :) In a perverse way, this has been fun.

Rev. Barky said to me, "It's like being superheroes, living this double life, having these adventures, and now we have to go back to the office."

I think I saw a badge with a number on that cop.

My wife's grandmother used to say, when someone demonstrates an element of their character, believe them.

On Richard Dawkins' forum a thread asked whether there should be an official response to expelled and I received private correspondence asking some pretty specific questions to which I replied (edited for the on topic issue):

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Good god man! Don't worry! They can't make a smart move. Morons lack the ability to temporarily become non-morons. Let them talk. If you get the chance, ask them questions and get them to talk. They can't hide the original defect in their argument. Please, I know there is no reason to listen to me. You don't know me from Adam (pun intended) but I swear to you, coming from a lifetime of professional experience, don't respond with anything that makes sense.

If you get lucky, they will not only say the stupid, they may even DO the stupid, a la Dembski and the Fart noises, regent home #'s allowing Denise on his blog and etc.

If you don't get the chance to ask them questions, don't worry. I promise the movie will be blisteringly stupid. It can't help being so since the premise suffers from the problem.

You can't shine wet, steaming turds...



And quite a bit more regarding the specific questions.

You Kristine, although you suffered at their hands (for which, should it ever be within my power, I promise to avenge you by subjecting them to the most abject public ridicule) you managed to actually contribute to them doing the stupid.  I offer my sincerest gratitude and appreciation. If you ever need any assistance, you can count on me.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,21:42   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 24 2008,16:23)
Oh - they can't seem to come up with a consistent account.

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-190425

 
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DLH

03/24/2008

4:11 pm
Rather than speculate, how about some facts.
Eyewitness Stuart Blessman reports:

I just happened to be standing directly in line behind Dawkins’ academic colleague. Management of the movie theatre saw a man apparently hustling and bothering several invited attendees, apparently trying to disrupt the viewing or sneak in. Management then approached the man, asked him if he had a ticket, and when he confirmed that he didn’t, they then escorted him off the premises. Nowhere was one of the film’s producers to be found, and the man certainly didn’t identify himself. If a producer had been nearby, it’s possible that he would have been admitted, but the theatre’s management didn’t want to take any chances.

”Richard Dawkins crashes the party at a screening of “Expelled”” By JEFFREY OVERSTREET, ExpelledTheMovie.com March 20, 2008


how is that the same as:

http://kevinwrites.typepad.com/otherwi....rd.html

 
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And now, a word from Mark Mathis
“Yes, I turned Mr. Myers away. He was not an invited guest of Premise Media. This was a private screening of an unfinished film. I could have let him in, just as I invited Michael Shermer to a screening in Nashville. Shermer is in the film as well. But, in light of Myers’ untruthful blogging about ‘Expelled’ I decided it was better to have him wait until April 18 and pay to see the film. Others, notable others, were permitted to see the film. At a private screening it’s my call."


DLH was pulling his usualy shit on the Wiki PZ Myers article today.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,23:57   

Quote (KimvdLinde @ Mar. 24 2008,20:48)
Well, I think Kevin better starts to do some repenting before the circus is going to destroy him and his career......

Nah - these people live on persecution and marytrdom, even if it arises from their own duplicity and stupidity.  It's their method of validation, like cutting - the pain and blood is a good thing!

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,08:05   

It looks like the remaining screenings are being completely reorganized and re-scheduled.

That's too bad. I've been collecting information about Michigan's statute 338 that applies to private security businesses and their employees. As I expected, such companies have to be bonded, and employees are issued identification cards. What I hadn't known was that was a felony for someone to falsely represent themselves as an employee of a private security business if they are not, in fact, an employee of a firm in compliance and bonded.

If Minnesota law is similar, PZ or others could see about getting an investigation into whether Mr. Security Guard at that screening was really a bona fide professional, or just someone in the entourage with a costume.

Michigan law, by the way, really appears to have it in for folks who make up fake shields and badges.

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BWE



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,08:22   

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Mar. 25 2008,08:05)
It looks like the remaining screenings are being completely reorganized and re-scheduled.

That's too bad. I've been collecting information about Michigan's statute 338 that applies to private security businesses and their employees. As I expected, such companies have to be bonded, and employees are issued identification cards. What I hadn't known was that was a felony for someone to falsely represent themselves as an employee of a private security business if they are not, in fact, an employee of a firm in compliance and bonded.

If Minnesota law is similar, PZ or others could see about getting an investigation into whether Mr. Security Guard at that screening was really a bona fide professional, or just someone in the entourage with a costume.

Michigan law, by the way, really appears to have it in for folks who make up fake shields and badges.

Wouldn't that be a peach.

Yikes.

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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,09:44   

Y'know, I sneak out of town to go to Philly and visit
The Franklin Institute over the weekend, and the funniest shit EVAH goes down...  (It was not only a Good Friday, it was a GREAT Friday - Cheesesteaks at Tony Luke's in South Philly after the Franklin, then drank beer and watched the Flyers win in a shootout - how much better can it get without having sex inside Independence Hall?)

(Oddly, no one got Expelled from the Franklin Institute while I was there, and I didn't have to sign in or produce ID (HAH!), and cameras, cell phones, and video recording devices were encouraged!  WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY THINKING??????)

Oh, and the Star Wars exhibit is going on at the Franklin Institute, with original props and costumes from the movies.

The only sucky parts?  It snowed and I missed the Expelled From Expelled fiasco.  Fair trade, I guess.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,10:41   

Quote (Lou FCD @ Mar. 25 2008,10:44)
Oh, and the Star Wars exhibit is going on at the Franklin Institute, with original props and costumes from the movies.

I saw that a few years ago at the National Air and Space Museum. WAY cool. It included production models of the Millennium Falcon, Tie-fighters and X-wings, C-3PO and R2D2, Darth Vader's costume, storm troopers, etc. The Millenium Falcon looks like they bought every plastic battleship model in the state of California and applied the parts to its surface. I was thinking, "And people get paid to do this?"

They also had some very old air and vintage space on display.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,10:56   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Mar. 25 2008,11:41)
Quote (Lou FCD @ Mar. 25 2008,10:44)
Oh, and the Star Wars exhibit is going on at the Franklin Institute, with original props and costumes from the movies.

I saw that a few years ago at the National Air and Space Museum. WAY cool. It included production models of the Millennium Falcon, Tie-fighters and X-wings, C-3PO and R2D2, Darth Vader's costume, storm troopers, etc. The Millenium Falcon looks like they bought every plastic battleship model in the state of California and applied the parts to its surface. I was thinking, "And people get paid to do this?"

They also had some very old air and vintage space on display.

Yeah, it was very very cool to be standing that close to the Darth Vader costume, Luke's land speeder, the models of the MF and the Star Destroyers, the light sabers, etc.

And yeah, the models really do look exactly like you describe.

I'll probably post a few pictures later today at Crowded Head.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,11:56   

Kevin Miller, are you calling Dawkins a liar or me?
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Whose [sic] the liar now? Check out Dave Scot's argument for why he thinks PZ and Dawkins really did gate-crash the Expelled screening in Minneapolis. It's over at uncommondescent.com.


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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,12:27   

I wonder if we are ever going to get the names of the individuals that worked on EXPELLEDs totally new and completely original animation?

Harvard guys are interested.  It took them over a year to make 'Inner Life' with Harvard PIs and an entire team of professional bio-animators, and now some Creationists do the same thing independently in approximately 2-3 months.  Those 'cell biologists' and 'animation studio' must rock!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,12:28   

The spin from Premise blurs, it's so fast:

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EXPELLED Controversy Top Issue in Blogosphere
SANTA FE, N.M.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Something amazing happened yesterday. The controversy around Premise Media’s upcoming movie Ben Stein’s EXPELLED: No Intelligence Allowed became the hottest topic in the blogosphere. According to BlogPulse, a service of Nielsen Buzzmetrics, the issue held the number one slot throughout the day on Monday, March 24th (http://www.blogpulse.com). There were also over 800 results on Technorati (www.technorati.com).

“It is amazing to see the reaction of PZ Myers, Richard Dawkins and their cohorts when one of them is simply expelled from a movie. Yet these men applaud when professors throughout the nation are fired from their jobs and permanently excluded from their profession for mentioning Intelligent Design,” said producer Mark Mathis. Mathis was at the event that has raised this controversy.

Mathis continued, “I hope PZ’s experience has helped him see the light. He is distraught because he could not see a movie. What if he wasn’t allowed to teach on a college campus or was denied tenure? Maybe he will think twice before he starts demanding more professors be blacklisted and expelled simply because they question the adequacy of Darwin's theory.”

EXPELLED was screened for a select Minneapolis grass roots audience on Thursday night. Dr. Myers and noted atheist Dr. Richard Dawkins were not sent invitations to the screening from the producers. Nevertheless, they acquired access to a proprietary online RSVP site, along with a group of other atheists. The producers were notified that Myers and others who were not invited had signed up for the screening. They were also aware that Dawkins, who oddly used his formal surname "Clinton" instead of Richard to sign up, was in attendance.

Recognizing the opportunity to make a point of the inconvenience and pain that they, and others like them, have caused to numerous scientists and educators, the decision was made beforehand to deny Myers access to the film if he actually showed up. PZ is one of the foremost proponents of expelling those who hold to any form of Intelligent Design: “The only appropriate responses [to proponents of Intelligent Design] should involve some form of righteous fury, much butt-kicking, and the public firing and humiliation of some teachers, many school board members, and vast numbers of sleazy far-right politicians.” (http://www.pandasthumb.org/pt-archives/001143.html#comments Comment #35130 Posted by PZ Myers, 6/14/05, 07:50)

Executive Producer Logan Craft noted: “EXPELLED makes it clear that academic freedom is at stake. Yet Dawkins and his friends continue to misrepresent the film and slander the producers. It is obvious that they do not want to debate the real issues raised in the movie. Their only interest is to control the damage their interviews have done to their cause. We are happy to let the public decide where the truth rests on this controversial issue when the movie opens nationwide on April 18th.”

Myers has apparently been asking supporters to sneak into the different private screenings for many weeks. After being denied his chance to see the movie, Myers blogged about his experience and expressed his outrage.

Executive Producer Walt Ruloff responded, “This is the typical reaction of Darwinists and atheists who are so blinded by their own self importance that they fail to understand what is really going on. They yell and scream when one of their friends isn’t allowed to see a movie weeks before it goes public. All this outrage while these same people organize witch hunts to expel those who disagree with them.”

Premise Media’s new film, Ben Stein’s EXPELLED: No Intelligence Allowed, opens nationwide on April 18th. You can learn more at www.expelledthemovie.com

To schedule an interview with one of the producers, please contact Mary Beth Hutchins (mhutchins@crcpublicrelations.com) ext. 105 or Kerry Brown (kbrown@crcpublicrelations.com) ext. 120 at 703.683.5004


http://www.businesswire.com/portal....Lang=en


Sure, PZ's distraught.  More like thrilled.


And the site was not proprietary, or at least not secret.  I found it
via Google here:


http://onegreatcityblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/private-screening.html


And I put the link here at Talkorigins, on AtBC, Pharyngula, PT, and
Atheistnetwork, a week before the showing.


Furthermore, they can't keep their story straight.  Mathis told Denyse
O'Leary that he just wanted to make PZ wait and pay for his ticket.
Not that I find any of his stories believable (maybe the rationale is
as stated above--who can say, when one can't trust these bozos?), it's
just that this conflicts with the other spins bandied about the
blogosphere.


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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,12:28   

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Mar. 25 2008,09:05)
It looks like the remaining screenings are being completely reorganized and re-scheduled.

That's too bad. I've been collecting information about Michigan's statute 338 that applies to private security businesses and their employees. As I expected, such companies have to be bonded, and employees are issued identification cards. What I hadn't known was that was a felony for someone to falsely represent themselves as an employee of a private security business if they are not, in fact, an employee of a firm in compliance and bonded.

If Minnesota law is similar, PZ or others could see about getting an investigation into whether Mr. Security Guard at that screening was really a bona fide professional, or just someone in the entourage with a costume.

Michigan law, by the way, really appears to have it in for folks who make up fake shields and badges.

I figured it would come to this.

They are going to have to go underground and into secretive mode with their pre-screening.  They'll hold pre-screenings, but they won't tell anybody where they'll be.

Which is hilarious in so many ways if the entire point of the pre-screening campaign was to generate a buzz and interest for the broader big screen rollout.

There is some reason here to wonder if they really do have a contract to get it distributed or if that too is a bunch of BS

I know Flock of Dodo's tried hard but was never signed up for something like that.  It doesn't sound like expelled is the sort of movie you'd ever see at the Mall 16 unless it is underwritten by big, deep and really stupid pockets.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,12:41   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 24 2008,16:23)
Oh - they can't seem to come up with a consistent account.

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-190425

     
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DLH

03/24/2008

4:11 pm
Rather than speculate, how about some facts.
Eyewitness Stuart Blessman reports:

I just happened to be standing directly in line behind Dawkins’ academic colleague. Management of the movie theatre saw a man apparently hustling and bothering several invited attendees, apparently trying to disrupt the viewing or sneak in. Management then approached the man, asked him if he had a ticket, and when he confirmed that he didn’t, they then escorted him off the premises. Nowhere was one of the film’s producers to be found, and the man certainly didn’t identify himself. If a producer had been nearby, it’s possible that he would have been admitted, but the theatre’s management didn’t want to take any chances.

”Richard Dawkins crashes the party at a screening of “Expelled”” By JEFFREY OVERSTREET, ExpelledTheMovie.com March 20, 2008


'Hustling'? WTF? Like, challenging them to play pool? Or trying to get them to go back to his motel?

Kristine, what's your reaction to this? Was PZ drunkenly lurching around bothering the decent churchgoing folk who were waiting in line?  :p

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,13:12   

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Mar. 25 2008,13:41)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 24 2008,16:23)
Oh - they can't seem to come up with a consistent account.

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-190425

       
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DLH

03/24/2008

4:11 pm
Rather than speculate, how about some facts.
Eyewitness Stuart Blessman reports:

I just happened to be standing directly in line behind Dawkins’ academic colleague. Management of the movie theatre saw a man apparently hustling and bothering several invited attendees, apparently trying to disrupt the viewing or sneak in. Management then approached the man, asked him if he had a ticket, and when he confirmed that he didn’t, they then escorted him off the premises. Nowhere was one of the film’s producers to be found, and the man certainly didn’t identify himself. If a producer had been nearby, it’s possible that he would have been admitted, but the theatre’s management didn’t want to take any chances.

”Richard Dawkins crashes the party at a screening of “Expelled”” By JEFFREY OVERSTREET, ExpelledTheMovie.com March 20, 2008


'Hustling'? WTF? Like, challenging them to play pool? Or trying to get them to go back to his motel?

Kristine, what's your reaction to this? Was PZ drunkenly lurching around bothering the decent churchgoing folk who were waiting in line?  :p

The ever-honest DLH apparently forgot to mention the furious backpeddling of Stuart Blessman.

Perhaps someone should out that he forgot to put that in before he hit the "Post" button.

I'm sure it was an honest oversight.

Here.

In full, his further comment reads thus:

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39  stuartblessman

Wow. Thanks for all the responses…both these and the spams on my blog. And thank you Dr. Myers for posting your email; I’m gonna keep that one.

Obviously you can tell that I was going off of Mathis’ comments toward Dawkins regarding you. If you had a legitimate ticket and was just booted by the film’s producers, you have my sympathies, although they were under no obligation to let you in to see the movie. I apologize if I in any way slandered you, but I am not in any way ashamed. I wrote my account of the events as quickly as possible in order to circumvent any attempt to spin the events by other parties. These are obviously my impressions of the events as I witnessed them.

A question though, if I may. Dr. Myers…where were you standing when the policeman told you that the film’s producers had asked him to escort you out? Why did you have to walk back to your family (and me by default)? Were you not already in line with them? Oh, and did you happen to catch the police officer’s name?

Moving on…Did I have tickets? No. Did I have pirated tickets? No. I was the guest of an invited person. I was RSVPed by someone who was invited. He will write up his own view of events later in the day and post them online. Perhaps something he say will contradict what I say; will that in any way alter my perceptions or what I knew at the time? I doubt it.

Was I aware that this screening was open to the general public? No, and I don’t think it was. Mathis never once alluded to this and implied that it was a very selective, invited audience…”grassroots”…which is ok, since he and the film’s producers can do whatever they want with the film. No one can force them to invite anyone they don’t want to.

Obviously I was unaware of Dr. Myers first conversation. I merely reported on what I myself had observed. I apologize if someone was misled.

The term “Intelligent Design” is self explanatory. Yes, one audience member asked what ID was, since she thought the film did not give a good definition. Mathis nodded at this and reinforced it was a rough cut. Obviously, I am of the opinion that one would be able to figure out what the ID is by the very words themselves.

Define “disruption.” Did he get violent, start shouting, bothering everyone in the line? No. It appeared he was bothering a few people, trying to worm his way in to the movie. Security was already tight: no bags, cell phones, cameras, etc, allowed. The possibility exists that he might have begun to get violent and start shouting once he snuck in to the movie. That was my perceived basis for why managment was taking no chances and escorting him out. To his credit, Dr. Myers went peacefully.

And I regret not recognizing Dawkins in line in front of me. I haven’t read any of his books, although my friend Grant had, but he was busy getting popcorn up til we signed in. But well played, Dr. Myers…that was an entertaining blog post. I’m glad you are also a Mac fan! I’m writing this from a Macbook Pro on campus overlooking the downed 35W bridge.

As for the rest of the comments…I’m gonna simply choose to ignore them. I’m not here to debate ID or Evolution. I lack “credentials” to do so. But that’s the point of “Expelled”…those with the credentials to argue against Evolution are not even allowed a voice. The movie is hardly pro-Creation; it simply states that any side in this debate should be allowed a fair voice. It’s really a battle of faith vs faith; why else would evolutionists so vehemently defend evolution and even resort to attacking an undergraduate writing about his first impressions of a movie and an event?


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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,13:15   

Via Uncommonhypocrisy:

Get yer tickets here!

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,13:27   

Quote (factician @ Mar. 25 2008,13:15)
Via Uncommonhypocrisy:

Get yer tickets here!

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Due to unavoidable changes in the travel plans of the producers of “Expelled”, several of our screenings have been canceled or are being rescheduled to a new date or time. If you'd like to be notified once a new screening in your area is confirmed, please sign-up on one of the waitlists below.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,13:39   

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Mar. 25 2008,11:41)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 24 2008,16:23)
Oh - they can't seem to come up with a consistent account.

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-190425

       
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DLH

03/24/2008

4:11 pm
Rather than speculate, how about some facts.
Eyewitness Stuart Blessman reports:

I just happened to be standing directly in line behind Dawkins’ academic colleague. Management of the movie theatre saw a man apparently hustling and bothering several invited attendees, apparently trying to disrupt the viewing or sneak in. Management then approached the man, asked him if he had a ticket, and when he confirmed that he didn’t, they then escorted him off the premises. Nowhere was one of the film’s producers to be found, and the man certainly didn’t identify himself. If a producer had been nearby, it’s possible that he would have been admitted, but the theatre’s management didn’t want to take any chances.

”Richard Dawkins crashes the party at a screening of “Expelled”” By JEFFREY OVERSTREET, ExpelledTheMovie.com March 20, 2008


'Hustling'? WTF? Like, challenging them to play pool? Or trying to get them to go back to his motel?

Kristine, what's your reaction to this? Was PZ drunkenly lurching around bothering the decent churchgoing folk who were waiting in line?  :p

He was talking to people he knew in line - actually I thought he was on his way to the bathroom when that cop stopped him and talked to him.

Then PZ came over to me and said, "Uh, hi. I'm being kicked out!" Naturally I went, "What?" and the cop came over and said something like, "Excuse me, come over here, please." PZ did and the cop gave me a stern glare as I watched them, so I averted my eyes.

I thought we were going to be kicked out next when the cop said to PZ, "Because you don't have a ticket and you were not invited," and because of the way he looked at me.

That was unpleasant.

BTW, some anonymous poster came to my blog and made a new allegation:
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pThe word is that this was a set up.

PZ had a family member call management and say he was going to yell and shout during the showing, which he claimed earlier on his blog.

I thought this seemed a little too convenient.

I asked "anonymous" for evidence. I certainly hope that this isn't who I think it is. ;)

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,14:18   

Quote (Kristine @ Mar. 25 2008,13:39)
BTW, some anonymous poster came to my blog and made a new allegation:
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pThe word is that this was a set up.

PZ had a family member call management and say he was going to yell and shout during the showing, which he claimed earlier on his blog.

I thought this seemed a little too convenient.

I asked "anonymous" for evidence. I certainly hope that this isn't who I think it is. ;)

Ha!  Since it's a secret, I can't tell you whose name first popped into my head as "anonymous... but their initials are:
DaveScot Springer.   :)

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,14:22   

Quote (J-Dog @ Mar. 25 2008,13:18)
Quote (Kristine @ Mar. 25 2008,13:39)
BTW, some anonymous poster came to my blog and made a new allegation:
 
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pThe word is that this was a set up.

PZ had a family member call management and say he was going to yell and shout during the showing, which he claimed earlier on his blog.

I thought this seemed a little too convenient.

I asked "anonymous" for evidence. I certainly hope that this isn't who I think it is. ;)

Ha!  Since it's a secret, I can't tell you whose name first popped into my head as "anonymous... but their initials are:
DaveScot Springer.   :)

Am I right?  Or am I right?

Well, I thought it was a little evangelical (in more ways than one) commenter/movie writer myself. Unfortunately, my blogometer is only reporting stats up to last Friday.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,15:50   

Is this turd playing in your neighborhood?  Click here and find out.

I was hoping it would play in a multi-cinema in my city and it is.  Now I need to choose which slasher )or other absurd) film I will pay money for so I can sneak into Ben's Nazi Propaganda Tribute.


Chris!

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,15:56   

Quote (Mr_Christopher @ Mar. 25 2008,15:50)
Is this turd playing in your neighborhood?  Click here and find out.

I was hoping it would play in a multi-cinema in my city and it is.  Now I need to choose which slasher )or other absurd) film I will pay money for so I can sneak into Ben's Nazi Propaganda Tribute.


Chris!

Thanks - FYI - There is a list of theaters available, so you can rent the entire thing!

THIS IS FROM THE ACTUAL LIST

Easter Federal (800) 394-7368 x328 Regal Cinemas/Edwards/UA (888) 792-8244

"Easter Federal" are 2 words I don't like to see together...

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,16:11   

I like the current "we may be liars but think of the publicity!" Angle. Creobots, If you were to felate each other at the next showing you could really make the headlines.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,16:17   

Well, no evidence from trolly so far.

Was anyone else wondering what made April 18 a weird release date?

On that day in 1802, Erasmus Darwin (grandfather of Charles) died, as did Einstein, in 1955. Also on this day in 1946, The League of Nations is dissolved. Weird, huh?

I wonder what their real reasons were for choosing this date. I hope it’s not the fact that it’s the one-year anniversary of the Supreme Court upholding the “Partial-Birth” Abortion Ban Act.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,16:20   

It is the Friday of the weekend containing the anniversary of Darwin's death, as noted on UD some time ago.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,17:07   

Poachy, about the Premise Media press release  on the fiasco:
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Beautiful. I’ll say this about our side, we have some darn fine press release writers.


Those guys are unbelievably dim (UD)!

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,17:32   

Original prediction, Mar 20th:

 
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Countdown to Casey Luskin the attack gerbil's spin

" We did that on purpose so PZ would know what Sternberg and Gonzalez felt!!!!"

....5....4....3...2....1

:D  :D  :D  :D  :D

Latest bullshit excuse from the Expelled morons, Mar 25th:

   
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Recognizing the opportunity to make a point of the inconvenience and pain that they, and others like them, have caused to numerous scientists and educators, the decision was made beforehand to deny Myers access to the film if he actually showed up.


Can I call 'em or what?   ;)

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,17:42   

Quote (Mr_Christopher @ Mar. 25 2008,13:50)
Is this turd playing in your neighborhood?  Click here and find out.

Ooh. Why yes, it IS playing in my fair city. Will be interesting to see if that actually comes to be.

And Occam, that was a nice prediction there.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,17:43   

Quote (bfish @ Mar. 25 2008,17:42)
Quote (Mr_Christopher @ Mar. 25 2008,13:50)
Is this turd playing in your neighborhood?  Click here and find out.

Ooh. Why yes, it IS playing in my fair city. Will be interesting to see if that actually comes to be.

And Occam, that was a nice prediction there.

Nope. No chicago.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,17:57   

Did anyone make it to the March 19th screening in Cambridge, MA?  I only found out about that the day after, but I was working that night anyway.  Of course all the fun happened the next day.

  
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