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blipey



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(Permalink) Posted: June 27 2007,11:33   

Joe G is funny, but so completely impervious to any regular human interactions that a thread for him is probably useless.

That being said, I had to post this latest from his blog.  It's almost unimaginable that he would publish my comment.  I mean aren't these people supposed to be Bible Code experts and all?  If so, isn't it odd that he didn't find anything here:

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blipey said...

   Jump into the fray
   Over and over we go
   Even though there are no
   Great secrets to be learned,
   I troll the waters.
   Searching for prey,
   Somedays I pounce.
   Today is one of those days.
   Up and up we go,
   Perilously high--
   I defy
   Discussion to be had.


The entire thread is more Joe not being able to fathom what his own sentences mean.

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But I get the trick question- there isn't any such thing as one molecule of water. -JoeG

And scientists rarely test theories. -Gary Gaulin

   
Rev. BigDumbChimp



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(Permalink) Posted: June 27 2007,11:42   

Quote (blipey @ June 27 2007,11:33)
Joe G is funny, but so completely impervious to any regular human interactions that a thread for him is probably useless.

That being said, I had to post this latest from his blog.  It's almost unimaginable that he would publish my comment.  I mean aren't these people supposed to be Bible Code experts and all?  If so, isn't it odd that he didn't find anything here:

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blipey said...

   Jump into the fray
   Over and over we go
   Even though there are no
   Great secrets to be learned,
   I troll the waters.
   Searching for prey,
   Somedays I pounce.
   Today is one of those days.
   Up and up we go,
   Perilously high--
   I defy
   Discussion to be had.


The entire thread is more Joe not being able to fathom what his own sentences mean.

Nice.


He'll reinterpret that to mean he's a genius.

  
Rev. BigDumbChimp



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(Permalink) Posted: June 27 2007,11:51   

Holy Shit

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currator asks:
What do you think evidence of Common Descent in the fossil record would look like?

Truthfully I wouldn't expect to see Common Descent in the fossil record. That is because not everything that has lived and died was fossilized.

I think it is silly to use the fossil record for anything except to show what was around at some time in the past.


Talk about shooting oneself in the foot. Joe just effectively argued for the fact that there are not transitional fossils for every single stage of evolution.

  
J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: June 27 2007,12:29   

Quote (Rev. BigDumbChimp @ June 27 2007,11:51)
Holy Shit

 
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currator asks:
What do you think evidence of Common Descent in the fossil record would look like?

Truthfully I wouldn't expect to see Common Descent in the fossil record. That is because not everything that has lived and died was fossilized.

I think it is silly to use the fossil record for anything except to show what was around at some time in the past.


Talk about shooting oneself in the foot. Joe just effectively argued for the fact that there are not transitional fossils for every single stage of evolution.

Didn't someone say that he lives in his parent's basement?  

Well, at least he's out of the gene pool, -  that can't be good for getting lucky!

At least we won't have to track him down and sterilize him after we materialists win our war on Christians and imprison him with all the IDists like Dembksi.


JOE G IS STUPID is genius BTW... Remember to use your power only for good, never evil.

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Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
Gunthernacus



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(Permalink) Posted: June 27 2007,13:40   

Quote (J-Dog @ June 27 2007,12:29)
JOE G IS STUPID is genius BTW...

LOL. I read that whole effing thread looking for that - I thought maybe it was a commenter's name - before I saw it. Good show!

Minutiae:  Joe G posts at ARN as Joe G now, but got banned while posting as "ID's Bulldog".

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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: June 27 2007,15:15   

Should someone tell Joe the Maytag man that this thread exists? Might be good for giggles.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 27 2007,15:46   

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ June 27 2007,15:15)
Should someone tell Joe the Maytag man that this thread exists? Might be good for giggles.

Hey, I *honestly* have a friend who works for Maytag. I feel slighted on his behalf.

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"Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield
"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: June 27 2007,15:49   

Quote (Gunthernacus @ June 27 2007,13:40)
Quote (J-Dog @ June 27 2007,12:29)
JOE G IS STUPID is genius BTW...

LOL. I read that whole effing thread looking for that - I thought maybe it was a commenter's name - before I saw it. Good show!

Minutiae:  Joe G posts at ARN as Joe G now, but got banned while posting as "ID's Bulldog".

More great "design detection"...

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"Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield
"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: June 27 2007,15:53   

Joe whines about them poor, persecuted, disenfranchised White people:

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I knew Mike Keohan- he was a good guy, but he was white and overweight (sarcasm). I guess that is a crime punishable by death once you are in LA.

Where's the outrage? Sorry Mike you were just another Mic/ Wop American mutt. Nobody cares about whitebread anymore...



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blipey



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(Permalink) Posted: June 27 2007,19:20   

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ June 27 2007,15:15)
Should someone tell Joe the Maytag man that this thread exists? Might be good for giggles.

Done.

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But I get the trick question- there isn't any such thing as one molecule of water. -JoeG

And scientists rarely test theories. -Gary Gaulin

   
blipey



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(Permalink) Posted: June 27 2007,19:27   

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More great "design detection"...


don't make me "ban" you for "inverted" comma usage, hughes.

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But I get the trick question- there isn't any such thing as one molecule of water. -JoeG

And scientists rarely test theories. -Gary Gaulin

   
Mister DNA



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(Permalink) Posted: June 27 2007,19:50   

Joe G./John Paul, more than any other creationist, reminds me of Martin Short's character, lawyer Nathan Thurm. A lot of creationists remind me of that character, but no one gives off that "I knew that! What makes you think I wouldn't know that?!?" vibe like Joe G.

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slpage



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(Permalink) Posted: June 28 2007,09:18   

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ June 27 2007,15:15)
Should someone tell Joe the Maytag man that this thread exists? Might be good for giggles.

Hold on now - Joe G is a SCIENTIST!  He has even said so - because (and this was the rationale he used) he has a Bachelors of SCIENCE (in electronics engineering)!  So we must all bow down to Joe G's amazing super insights on all things scientific!

  
Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: June 28 2007,10:49   

Quote (slpage @ June 28 2007,09:18)
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ June 27 2007,15:15)
Should someone tell Joe the Maytag man that this thread exists? Might be good for giggles.

Hold on now - Joe G is a SCIENTIST!  He has even said so - because (and this was the rationale he used) he has a Bachelors of SCIENCE (in electronics engineering)!  So we must all bow down to Joe G's amazing super insights on all things scientific!

"He has a Bachelor's Degree -- in science!"

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"Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

  
blipey



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(Permalink) Posted: June 28 2007,11:55   

Joe's inviting everyone to come to his house for dinner.  I'm going to take him up on it.  Of course I think it will turn out much like my attempt to visit DaveScot.  You can only keep trying.

There are a lot of creationists that I still need to scratch of my list.

Invite here.

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But I get the trick question- there isn't any such thing as one molecule of water. -JoeG

And scientists rarely test theories. -Gary Gaulin

   
Rev. BigDumbChimp



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(Permalink) Posted: June 28 2007,12:01   

Quote (slpage @ June 28 2007,09:18)
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ June 27 2007,15:15)
Should someone tell Joe the Maytag man that this thread exists? Might be good for giggles.

Hold on now - Joe G is a SCIENTIST!  He has even said so - because (and this was the rationale he used) he has a Bachelors of SCIENCE (in electronics engineering)!  So we must all bow down to Joe G's amazing super insights on all things scientific!

Sheesh. I have a B.S. in ecosystems assessment but I am in no way a "Scientist". Unless computer science counts...

  
blipey



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(Permalink) Posted: June 28 2007,12:05   

Quote (Rev. BigDumbChimp @ June 28 2007,12:01)
Quote (slpage @ June 28 2007,09:18)
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ June 27 2007,15:15)
Should someone tell Joe the Maytag man that this thread exists? Might be good for giggles.

Hold on now - Joe G is a SCIENTIST!  He has even said so - because (and this was the rationale he used) he has a Bachelors of SCIENCE (in electronics engineering)!  So we must all bow down to Joe G's amazing super insights on all things scientific!

Sheesh. I have a B.S. in ecosystems assessment but I am in no way a "Scientist". Unless computer science counts...

I (along with richardhughes, I believe) have a B.A. in BS.  Does that mean I'm a scientist?  It'll look good on the resume.

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But I get the trick question- there isn't any such thing as one molecule of water. -JoeG

And scientists rarely test theories. -Gary Gaulin

   
Rev. BigDumbChimp



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(Permalink) Posted: June 28 2007,12:08   

Quote (blipey @ June 28 2007,12:05)
Quote (Rev. BigDumbChimp @ June 28 2007,12:01)
Quote (slpage @ June 28 2007,09:18)
 
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ June 27 2007,15:15)
Should someone tell Joe the Maytag man that this thread exists? Might be good for giggles.

Hold on now - Joe G is a SCIENTIST!  He has even said so - because (and this was the rationale he used) he has a Bachelors of SCIENCE (in electronics engineering)!  So we must all bow down to Joe G's amazing super insights on all things scientific!

Sheesh. I have a B.S. in ecosystems assessment but I am in no way a "Scientist". Unless computer science counts...

I (along with richardhughes, I believe) have a B.A. in BS.  Does that mean I'm a scientist?  It'll look good on the resume.

Nice.


I looked further down on his blog and he has an entire post on the boycott Exxon/Mobil lower gas prices hoax.


I guess he's never heard of Snopes or Google for that matter.

  
blipey



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(Permalink) Posted: June 28 2007,12:16   

Merely a bit of street theatre.  The insane are never hooked by hoaxes.

Hoaxed by hookers, but never hooked by hoaxes.

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But I get the trick question- there isn't any such thing as one molecule of water. -JoeG

And scientists rarely test theories. -Gary Gaulin

   
Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: June 28 2007,12:17   

Quote (blipey @ June 28 2007,11:55)
Joe's inviting everyone to come to his house for dinner.  I'm going to take him up on it.  Of course I think it will turn out much like my attempt to visit DaveScot.  You can only keep trying.

There are a lot of creationists that I still need to scratch of my list.

Passing through Toronto anytime soon? You could always try to arrange lunch with Denyse...

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blipey



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(Permalink) Posted: June 28 2007,16:53   

Joe:
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Then have a discussion in which a method of testing can be hammered out. Then do it.


This is Joe's idea of a lesson plan.  He wants to show The Privileged Planet in schools and then discuss how the science might be done.  I suppose this means he wants to discuss it with the students.  Not really how science should be done, but with these guys the students are probably a lot smarter.

Maybe 3rd graders could show Joe how not to look so stupid.

Comments in the high 20s on this thread

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But I get the trick question- there isn't any such thing as one molecule of water. -JoeG

And scientists rarely test theories. -Gary Gaulin

   
Paul Flocken



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(Permalink) Posted: June 28 2007,17:57   

He should probably refrain from giving his debating opponents hammers.

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Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: June 28 2007,21:44   

from the blipey-joe g commentary....

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But thank you for again demonstrating why ID needs to presented in schools- education cures ignorance.


wow that is tard on a whole 'notha level.  I'll pass.  blipey you have iron lungs.  i thought my fundies were dumb.

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
slpage



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(Permalink) Posted: June 29 2007,10:20   

Quote (blipey @ June 28 2007,16:53)
Joe:  
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Then have a discussion in which a method of testing can be hammered out. Then do it.


This is Joe's idea of a lesson plan.  He wants to show The Privileged Planet in schools and then discuss how the science might be done.  I suppose this means he wants to discuss it with the students.  Not really how science should be done, but with these guys the students are probably a lot smarter.

Maybe 3rd graders could show Joe how not to look so stupid.

Comments in the high 20s on this thread

I wrote a brief blog post about Joe's infatuation with THE PP.

I am not at all surprised that someone like Joe would find that line of 'reasoning' compelling - why, we are in just the right spot to see what we can see!  OBVIOUSLY designed!

Even a loony nut case creationist engineer agreed that
such 'reasoning' was silly...

  
blipey



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(Permalink) Posted: June 29 2007,12:23   

OOOHHHH!!!!  Ftk is posting at Joe's place!

Put on a hard hat before entering.

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But I get the trick question- there isn't any such thing as one molecule of water. -JoeG

And scientists rarely test theories. -Gary Gaulin

   
Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: June 29 2007,12:27   

Quote (blipey @ June 29 2007,12:23)
OOOHHHH!!!!  Ftk is posting at Joe's place!

Put on a hard hat before entering.

Yeah, now that FTK has apparently stomped out of here, she'll need to find some other place to spend her copious free time.

I don't think Maytag Joe can keep her long tho. I think he'll bore her to tears. FTK seems to enjoy lively, antagonistic relationships, at least in the internets.

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blipey



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(Permalink) Posted: June 29 2007,12:30   

And this is his lesson plan, astounding.  What's even more astounding is he probably has no idea why he would be a bad teacher or why schools wouldn't let him present.

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Blipey: So, fine, show The Privileged Planet, but under what lesson plan?

JoeG: I would show it to the whole school. It would not be a part of any particular class.

All I am looking for is to expose students to ID reality.

Blipey: Why are you taking up valuable educational time with a film?

JoeG: Films are part of that valuable educational time. And that valuable educational time is already being wasted with dogma- ie unsubstantiated and unverifiable grand claims.


Blipey: If I were to have Richard Dawkins in to speak to the class, I would need a lesson plan in order to do it.

JoeG: But you're not a teacher. Why would you need a lesson plan?

Blipey: So, what specific educational lessons and state criteria are we getting from your ID introductions?

JoeG: You would be getting a lesson in ID reality.


That last is stellar.

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But I get the trick question- there isn't any such thing as one molecule of water. -JoeG

And scientists rarely test theories. -Gary Gaulin

   
Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: June 29 2007,12:34   

Quote (blipey @ June 29 2007,12:30)
And this is his lesson plan, astounding.  What's even more astounding is he probably has no idea why he would be a bad teacher or why schools wouldn't let him present.

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Blipey: So, fine, show The Privileged Planet, but under what lesson plan?

JoeG: I would show it to the whole school. It would not be a part of any particular class.

All I am looking for is to expose students to ID reality.

Blipey: Why are you taking up valuable educational time with a film?

JoeG: Films are part of that valuable educational time. And that valuable educational time is already being wasted with dogma- ie unsubstantiated and unverifiable grand claims.


Blipey: If I were to have Richard Dawkins in to speak to the class, I would need a lesson plan in order to do it.

JoeG: But you're not a teacher. Why would you need a lesson plan?

Blipey: So, what specific educational lessons and state criteria are we getting from your ID introductions?

JoeG: You would be getting a lesson in ID reality.


That last is stellar.

"Why don't you just make ten louder and make ten be the top number and make that a little louder?"

[pause]

"These go to eleven."

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blipey



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(Permalink) Posted: June 29 2007,16:52   

Oh, I hit Joe's soft spot.  He won't publish a comment in which I called him on his claim of being a scientist.  I asked him to provide his degree, but no publishing even though several other comments I made afterwards have gone through.

Too close to home, I guess.

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But I get the trick question- there isn't any such thing as one molecule of water. -JoeG

And scientists rarely test theories. -Gary Gaulin

   
blipey



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(Permalink) Posted: June 29 2007,17:30   

Joe G claims he is not like DaveScot, then posts this in response to my accepting his invitation to his home:

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And now you're stupid enough to go to a hunter's backyard and mess with him.

Stupidity. Sheer stupidity.


Similar to something recently...if I could only place it.

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But I get the trick question- there isn't any such thing as one molecule of water. -JoeG

And scientists rarely test theories. -Gary Gaulin

   
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