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Question: Updated: What's Your Educational Background? :: Total Votes:192 Poll choices Votes Statistics PhD Science 59  [30.73%] PhD Humanities 7  [3.65%] BS/BA/Ma Science 80  [41.67%] BS/BA/Ma Humanities 27  [14.06%] High School 13  [6.77%] Lots of Scientific American 2  [1.04%] I Done Readed a Lot on the Internets 4  [2.08%] Guests cannot vote

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stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,15:37    Not everything is going to fit neatly in those categories. Just do your best.

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,15:49    This would leave out most of UD's readership, since it omits "engineering degree", "theology degree", "I was in the military for a while" and "I don't much cotton to that fancy book larnin". -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,15:56    Quote (Arden Chatfield @ April 17 2007,15:49) This would leave out most of UD's readership, since it omits "engineering degree", "theology degree", "I was in the military for a while" and "I don't much cotton to that fancy book larnin". And of course "the Bible says it, I believe it, that settles it, and when I meet God I'm looking forward to explaining why I refuse to use the brain he gave me". -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,16:16    "Brain? Brain? What is brain?"

guthrie Posts: 696 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,16:57    Surely Theology counts as humanities, and engineering as sciences, roughly.

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,17:16    Interestingly, the AtBC forum index shows a later timestamp than the topic or the A.E. BB index - I suppose that reflects when a vote was last submitted? (Of course, the timestamps will change when I submit this. ) Henry

"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank Posts: 2560 Joined: Feb. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,17:48    I homeschooled myself. (snicker)  (giggle) -------------- Editor, Red and Black Publishers www.RedandBlackPublishers.com

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,18:35    I READ LOTS OF HARD SCI-FI. WHY ISN'T THIS A CHOICE? IT SHOULD BE ABOVE PHD. PLUS YOU HAVE NO BOX FOR AUTODICTOR / DELL HEALTH AND HYGIENE PROGRAM. SORT IT STORY OR YOU'LL BE SORRY. HOMO. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,18:49    LOL Oh Noes!!!!11111oneoneone

Dean Morrison Posts: 216 Joined: Dec. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,18:54    'BSc' for bachelor of Science in the UK, 'BS' stands for - 'Bullshit'

Steviepinhead Posts: 532 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,19:43    I squished myself into Ph.D. humanities, which may have been a bit presumptuous: It's actually a four-year anthropology degree, plus a three-year law degree (juris doctor, doncha know...).   This seemed a bit more than an MA, but I'm quite sure it's a good deal less sweat than what goes into an anthro Ph.D., for example.  Or literature, sociology, art history, whatever.  (Though some of those folks would probably prefer the several extra years of school and fieldwork to the Socratic method...) So my apologies to hard-grinding doctoral students everywhere for elbowing onto your turf. And I do read a whole lot of Scientific American, Discover, The Loom, Pharyngula, etc., not to mention popular science books (and the occasional physics, bio, evo-devo college text). Nothing wrong with that, of course. But note the distinction, davetards of the world, between subscribing to Scientific american and reading for content. And I'm still going to get around to reading the cool linguistics paper that Arden sent me a week or two ago. As soon as I get my taxes done.

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,19:59      Quote And I'm still going to get around to reading the cool linguistics paper that Arden sent me a week or two ago. Funny you should mention that, I was just about to email you and ask you if you got it. -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

Richiyaado Posts: 1 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,20:07    Well, I registered here just so I could vote. I have a BFA in painting and printmaking. This qualifies me to make hard-edged acrylic paintings using masking tape and gel medium. Unfortunately, I'm unqualified to do much of anything else, so I work in advertising. My interest in the evo/creo debate arose when I worked for a regional library system in Wisconsin. Probably because no one else wanted to, I occasionally had to deal with people who a) wanted to permanently remove science books from tiny public libraries in very small towns, b) shelve creationist books in the science section of tiny public libraries in very small towns or c) shut down the whole shebang.

Thought Provoker Posts: 530 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,20:17    Hi all, Excuse me while I take some time to mope in my beer. I just said goodbye to Telic Thoughts after about 6 months of posting there. BTW, I have a BS Electrical Engineering with an MBA.  I put myself down for BS Science. Don't get me wrong, as ID Proponents go, the TT bunch are pretty intelligent and most want to be open minded.  You see, I like to think I am pretty good at getting to the heart of issues and pointing them out (my engineering training).  I think I did a pretty good job.  I bent over backwards to put it in terms they could embrace by accepting all base ID assumptions (even Dembski's "math").  To no avail.  If it didn't support Theism it wasn't a "science" they could find acceptable. I know better than argue with anyone about their faith, but I thought that maybe with a little open-mindedness and a firm declaration it's about science and not religion, that maybe, just maybe I could make a dent. Oh well, pass me another beer, will ya? Regards, Thought Provoker

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,20:20    Telic Thoughts is a unique ID blog. Unlike all the others (UD, JoeG, FtK,...) they aren't scared to death of informed commenters. They don't ban people for being knowledgeable. As far as I know. Which is really based on very little info. I've been to TT only a handful of times.

Thought Provoker Posts: 530 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,20:32    Stevestory, What you say is true. I was able to learn a lot from them. I enjoyed myself. A few of them I would like to call friends. It was just becoming obvious I had done that all I could. It was best I just leave. Whether it makes sense or not, I am frustrated they couldn't learn more from our exchanges.

Flint Posts: 478 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,20:34    What does one do with two B.S. degrees in the sciences, and one M.A. degree in humanities? Take a vote?

Thought Provoker Posts: 530 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,20:40    Hi Flint, With two degrees in Science and a degree in Humanities  I would think you could figure it out for yourself. Sorry, couldn't help myself.

bobk Posts: 1 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,20:48    High school grad (Christrian Brothers Academy - 1972). Learning was important as was being able to support ones arguments. Dogma was available. Darwin's insights were celebrated as man's utilization of God's gifts. Fundies were pitied.

bystander Posts: 301 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,22:17    Quote (guthrie @ April 18 2007,09:57) Surely Theology counts as humanities, and engineering as sciences, roughly. It would be nice to separate the engineers from the scientists. More to show that not all engineers are ID nongs. BTW I am an engineer.

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,23:06    Quote (Steviepinhead @ April 17 2007,19:43) As soon as I get my taxes done. Uh oh. Are you one of those people standing in a half-mile long line full of pissed off, nervous people at the post office at 11:59pm, April 17th? -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

Doc Bill Posts: 1039 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,23:10    Chemistry. All life is chemistry. I am all life. Lenny, eat your heart out.

edarrell Posts: 2 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 17 2007,23:18    Well, yeah, it's hard to figure out where to put the J.D.  The folks over at UD think I don't have it anyway. But I did serious botany research for a few summers, and I had to sit through about eleventy jillion hearings on FDA, NCI, and every other health and science issue to come before Congress over a ten year period.  That -- similar to waterboarding on a dull afternoon -- should count for something.

Bob O'H Posts: 2564 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 18 2007,00:10    Interesting: nobody reads lots of Scientific American.  They must have put up the prices to counter dt's cancellation of his subscription. Bob (who actually has a degree higher than a PhD.  Unfortunately, the certificate is in Finnish, so I'm not sure what it's in) -------------- It is fun to dip into the various threads to watch cluelessness at work in the hands of the confident exponent. - Soapy Sam (so say we all)

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 18 2007,00:29    Quote ("Rev Dr" Lenny Flank @ April 17 2007,16:48) I homeschooled myself. (snicker)  (giggle) Actually, I largely educated myself! My public schools weren't that great, and I got disgusted in third grade and read voraciously on my own. B.A. in humanities, that's me, working toward an MLIS degree. I read about biology and astronomy for fun ('cause I'm such a party gal Shimmies to the newcomer Thought Provoker. -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

bystander Posts: 301 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 18 2007,01:11    Quote (Bob O'H @ April 18 2007,17:10) Interesting: nobody reads lots of Scientific American.  They must have put up the prices to counter dt's cancellation of his subscription. Bob (who actually has a degree higher than a PhD.  Unfortunately, the certificate is in Finnish, so I'm not sure what it's in) I used to in the 80s until it got boring but I could only make one choice

MIchael Roberts Posts: 13 Joined: Oct. 2003 (Permalink) Posted: April 18 2007,06:21    I can't vote as it won't let me state I have degrees in science and humanities Michael

IanBrown_101 Posts: 927 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 18 2007,06:59    I'm aiming for a BScEcon in International politics, but sadly my current level is only A-Levels. I presume that's US High School equivalent? -------------- I'm not the fastest or the baddest or the fatest. You NEVER seem to address the fact that the grand majority of people supporting Darwinism in these on line forums and blogs are atheists. That doesn't seem to bother you guys in the least. - FtK Roddenberry is my God.

PeterEvolves Posts: 2 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 18 2007,07:12    Cool to see this. My small kvetch is that I have an M.M. in Music Composition and Theory. It's an Arts degree. Close to Humanities but...

Thought Provoker Posts: 530 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 18 2007,07:16    Hi Kristine - thank you for that very warm welcome.  You are a girl after my own heart. I too was disgusted in my schooling and did a lot of thinking for myself. BTW, my schooling started in the '60s. I am still thinking for myself though.

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