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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: May 29 2009,17:49   

Casey, you're a star!

Why Do People Laugh at Creationists?, installment #30.

Bwahahahahahahhaa

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nuytsia



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(Permalink) Posted: May 29 2009,18:38   

Quote (Lou FCD @ May 29 2009,09:49)
Casey, you're a star!

Why Do People Laugh at Creationists?, installment #30.

Bwahahahahahahhaa

Yes, Casey seems to becoming a big hit on Youtube

Science Vs. Casey Luskin (Haeckels Embryos, Fox News)
Casey Luskin: Liar, Hypocrite, Imbecilic Assclown.

Happy Days!  :D

   
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(Permalink) Posted: May 29 2009,19:42   

Quote (Lou FCD @ May 29 2009,17:49)
Casey, you're a star!

Why Do People Laugh at Creationists?, installment #30.

Bwahahahahahahhaa

One interesting point in the video is that PCID stopped publishing after Dover. I hadn't made the connection before...

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(Permalink) Posted: June 05 2009,10:07   

Here is a happy coincidence: I wrote a couple days ago defending phylogenetic trees against Casey's attacks.  One way that I showed that phylogenetic trees match other data is by creating a tree based on cytochrome B and comparing it to the ERV data by Lebedev et al 2000 (The one from 29+ evidences of evolution fame).  Unsurprisingly, they matched.  

So I get to part 5 of Casey's evidence-less, quote mined, and prejudiced series of posts, and I found this:

 
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pro-evolution textbooks often tout the Cytochrome C phylogenetic tree as allegedly matching and confirming the traditional phylogeny of many animal groups. This is said to bolster the case for common descent. However, evolutionists cherry pick this example and rarely talk about the Cytochrome B tree, which has striking differences from the classical animal phylogeny.

I about fell out of my chair when I read this.  He references some 1999 paper from Trends in Ecology and Evolution as a reference.  I will have to check it out sometime.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 05 2009,10:16   

Quote (bort @ June 05 2009,18:07)
Here is a happy coincidence: I wrote a couple days ago defending phylogenetic trees against Casey's attacks.  One way that I showed that phylogenetic trees match other data is by creating a tree based on cytochrome B and comparing it to the ERV data by Lebedev et al 2000 (The one from 29+ evidences of evolution fame).  Unsurprisingly, they matched.  

So I get to part 5 of Casey's evidence-less, quote mined, and prejudiced series of posts, and I found this:

   
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pro-evolution textbooks often tout the Cytochrome C phylogenetic tree as allegedly matching and confirming the traditional phylogeny of many animal groups. This is said to bolster the case for common descent. However, evolutionists cherry pick this example and rarely talk about the Cytochrome B tree, which has striking differences from the classical animal phylogeny.

I about fell out of my chair when I read this.  He references some 1999 paper from Trends in Ecology and Evolution as a reference.  I will have to check it out sometime.

Don't bother Bort....


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(Permalink) Posted: June 05 2009,12:16   

Quote (bort @ June 05 2009,10:07)
Here is a happy coincidence: I wrote a couple days ago defending phylogenetic trees against Casey's attacks.  One way that I showed that phylogenetic trees match other data is by creating a tree based on cytochrome B and comparing it to the ERV data by Lebedev et al 2000 (The one from 29+ evidences of evolution fame).  Unsurprisingly, they matched.  

So I get to part 5 of Casey's evidence-less, quote mined, and prejudiced series of posts, and I found this:

   
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pro-evolution textbooks often tout the Cytochrome C phylogenetic tree as allegedly matching and confirming the traditional phylogeny of many animal groups. This is said to bolster the case for common descent. However, evolutionists cherry pick this example and rarely talk about the Cytochrome B tree, which has striking differences from the classical animal phylogeny.

I about fell out of my chair when I read this.  He references some 1999 paper from Trends in Ecology and Evolution as a reference.  I will have to check it out sometime.

Wheres ur blag, bort???

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 05 2009,12:58   

oops

Here it is

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 05 2009,15:02   

Quote (bort @ June 05 2009,12:58)
oops

Here it is

Rats!  I was hopin' you was THIS guy!

Link To a Bort Blog

ADDED IN EDIT: ps- Kidding!  Your REAL stuff is great!

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(Permalink) Posted: June 10 2009,08:31   

The IDEA Center "staff" can't stand criticism. In their response to Forrest and Gross's "Creationism's Trojan Horse", there's a lot of hilarious spinning. Two particularly egregious points:

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5. Factual Error: Francis Beckwith on IDEA Center Advisory Board
The book states that Francis Beckwith is on our Advisory Board. When the authors accessed our website in April of 2003, he was on our Advisory Board. However, as of August of 2003, Francis Beckwith is no longer on our Advisory Board.

6. Factual Error: IDEA Club at the University of Hawaii-Hilo:
The book states that there is an IDEA Club at the University of Hawaii-Hilo. While our website may have stated that there is such a club when the authors accessed it in April of 2003, at the time of the book's publication (January, 2004) there is not to our knowledge an IDEA Club at the University of Hawaii-Hilo, as is currently reflected on our website.


So Forrest and Gross are supposedly making "factual errors" by relying on what the IDEA Center website actually said at the time that the manuscript was being written? Whoa.

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: June 10 2009,20:41   

Really! How dare them take an anti-evolutionists word for something. (Not always a safe thing to do, but still...)

Henry

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 11 2009,20:48   

Disco Institute censor YouTube video criticizing attack hairball Casey Luskin. Details at Pharyngula and My post on the subject

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(Permalink) Posted: June 12 2009,07:19   

Quote (afarensis @ June 11 2009,21:48)
Disco Institute censor YouTube video criticizing attack hairball Casey Luskin. Details at Pharyngula and My post on the subject

From the Skepchicks:

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Ignorant slimeball Casey Luskin appeared on Fox News to peddle some tired lies about evolution and creationism. YouTube user Donexodus2 recorded a thorough, point-by-point takedown of Luskin using clips from the Fox News show. The Discovery Institute filed false (and therefore illegal) DMCA claims, successfully convincing YouTube to remove the video despite the fact that they do not own the copyright to those clips. Now, Donexodus2 needs users to mirror the original video and help with suing the pants off the lying creationists.


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(Permalink) Posted: June 12 2009,08:49   

Quote (afarensis @ June 11 2009,20:48)
Disco Institute censor YouTube video criticizing attack hairball Casey Luskin. Details at Pharyngula and My post on the subject

Another case of "Lying Luskin" lying for Jesus.  In other words, just another day at the DI.

Based on all the comments about this at Pharyngula though, maybe this one will come back to bit him in his butt.  Couldn't happen to a more deserving "guy".

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(Permalink) Posted: June 12 2009,11:18   

Here's an old post of theirs. Can you guess what it's about?


http://www.evolutionnews.org/2009/03/censorship_is_wrong.html

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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2009,03:49   

A glimpse into the rich fantasy life of Casey Luskin, from the ID Arts blog:
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A Dialogue Concerning Intelligent Design

July 15th, 2008 by Casey Luskin

Somewhere a dialogue is presently taking place concerning intelligent design, and it may be going something like this:

ID Proponent: DNA. Genetic code. Language. Commands. Information. Intelligent design.

Darwinist: Wedge.

ID Proponent: Cambrian Explosion. Pattern of Explosions. Cosmic Fine-Tuning. Intelligent design.

Darwinist: Wedge.

ID Proponent: Complexity of life. Irreducible complexity. Specified Complexity. Intelligent design.

Darwinist: Wedge.

ID Proponent: Human intelligence. Creative Genius. Love. Music. Art. Leonardo da Vinci. Beethoven.

Darwinist: Wedge.

ID Proponent: Molecular Machines. Molecular motors. Cellular factories. Intelligent design.

Darwinist: Wedge.

ID Proponent: Science. Evidence. Data. Observations. Intelligent design.

Darwinist: Wedge.

ID Proponent: Atheism: Richard Dawkins. Daniel Dennett. Sam Harris. Eugenie Scott. Barbara Forrest. Stephen Jay Gould. E.O. Wilson. Michael Ruse. P.Z. Myers. Many others. Wedge? Irrelevant.

Darwinist: Hmmf. Kitzmiller.

ID Proponent: Judges can’t settle science. Courts can’t change data.

Darwinist: Kitzmiller.

ID Proponent: Judge adopted false definition of ID.

Darwinist: Kitzmiller.

ID Proponent: Judge ignored positive case for design.

Darwinist: Kitzmiller.

ID Proponent: Judge copied many errors into ruling from ACLU. Judge ignored ID rebuttals. Judges make mistakes all the time.

Darwinist: Kitzmiller.

ID Proponent: Judge ignored peer-reviewed pro-ID publications. Meyer, Proceedings of the Biological Society of Washington. Dembski, The Design Inference. Beye/Snoke, Protein Science. Others.

Darwinist: Kitzmiller.

ID Proponent: Judge ignored pro-ID research. Minnich’s flagellum research.

Darwinist: Hmmf. Type III Secretory System has ¼ flagellar parts.

ID Proponent: Not an explanation. Huge Leap.

Darwinist: Type III Secretory System has ¼ flagellar parts.

ID Proponent: Flagellum: Rotor, Stator, Bushings, Motor, Propeller, U-Joint, Rotary Engine 100,000 RPM. Irreducibly complex.

Darwinist: Type III Secretory System has ¼ flagellar parts.

ID Proponent: Then provide step-by-step evolutionary model.

Darwinist: Hmmf. ID has no research.

ID Proponent: Minnich. Axe. Dembski. Marks. Meyer. Behe. Snoke. Gonzalez. Biologic. Others.

Darwinist: Hmmf. NAS rejects. AAAS rejects. “Steves” reject.

ID Proponent: That’s Politics. Thomas Kuhn was right. “Science not a democracy” –Eugenie Scott. All majority views started off as minority views.

Darwinist: Hmmf. ID = Politics.

ID Proponent: ID also has science. Plus Darwinism has politics: NAS anti-ID edicts; AAAS anti-ID edicts; Witch hunts (Sternberg, Crocker, Gonzalez, others).

Darwinist: Hmmf. ID = Creationism.

ID Proponent: DNA. Genetic code. Language. Commands. Information. Not Bible based.

Darwinist: ID = Creationism.

ID Proponent: Cambrian Explosion. Pattern of Explosions. Cosmic Fine-Tuning. Not Faith based.

Darwinist: ID = Creationism.

ID Proponent: Complexity of life. Irreducible complexity. Specified Complexity. Not Divine Revelation based.

Darwinist: ID = Creationism.

ID Proponent: Molecular Machines. Molecular motors. Cellular factories. Not Religion.

Darwinist: ID = Creationism.

ID Proponent: World’s most famous evolutionist Richard Dawkins (who is anti-ID): “Biology is the study of complicated things that give the appearance of having been designed for a purpose.”

Darwinist: Hmmf. TalkOrigins Quote Mine Project.

ID Proponent: DNA Nobel Prize winner Francis Crick (who is anti-ID): “Biologists must constantly keep in mind that what they see was not designed, but rather evolved.“

Darwinist: TalkOrigins Quote Mine Project.

ID Proponent: Former NAS president Bruce Alberts (who is anti-ID): “The entire cell can be viewed as a factory that contains an elaborate network of interlocking assembly lines, each of which is composed of a set of large protein machines. . . . Why do we call the large protein assemblies that underlie cell function protein machines? Precisely because, like machines invented by humans to deal efficiently with the macroscopic world, these protein assemblies contain highly coordinated moving parts.”

Darwinist: Hmmf. Then who designed the designer?

ID Proponent: Theological Objection—Irrelevant. Theological Answer: God is eternal, has no designer.

Darwinist: Who designed the designer?

ID Proponent: Knowledge of designer not necessary for design inference.

Darwinist: Who designed the designer?

ID Proponent: Why does the universe exist?

Darwinist: Hmmf. Progress of science. God of the gaps.

ID Proponent: Science seeks truth. If ID is right, ID is progress.

Darwinist: Progress of science must be NATURALISTIC. God of the gaps.

ID Proponent: That’s my point: Naturalism failing. How did flagellum evolve? Evolution of the gaps.

Darwinist: Progress of science. God of the gaps.

ID Proponent: Where are Cambrian ancestors? Evolution of the gaps.

Darwinist: Progress of science. God of the gaps.

ID Proponent: How did the first cell arise? Evolution of the gaps.

Darwinist: Progress of science. God of the gaps.

ID Proponent: ID is positive. DNA. Genetic code. Language. Commands. Information. Cambrian Explosion. Pattern of Explosions. Cosmic Fine-Tuning. Complexity of life. Irreducible complexity. Specified Complexity. Human intelligence. Love. Music. Art. Leonardo da Vinci. Beethoven. Molecular Machines. Molecular motors. Cellular factories. Science. Evidence. Data. Observations. Information in nature requires intelligent design.

[Empty Silence; Crickets]

ID Proponent: How did any single biochemical pathway arise? Evolution of the gaps. ID dramatically superior.

[Empty Silence; Crickets.]

Darwinist: Wedge. You’re ignorant, insane, and wicked.

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Note: This was intended as a parody only, although sadly it represents the many fallacious objections to ID raised by Darwinists. If anything, this parody underestimates the amount of name-calling and personal attacks that a Darwinist would have probably leveled (in this case, the Darwinist refrains from personal attacks until the very end.)

A real scholarly debate between those on both sides of the intelligent design controversy would have much more technical arguments. Nonetheless, the sad truth is that when many criticize intelligent design in the media, courtrooms, classrooms, and even scientific journals, their arguments often fail to rise above those of the “Darwinist” antagonist presented here. For those interested in serious, scientific discussions of intelligent design, check out any of these two books that have both pro- and con- arguments regarding intelligent design:

·  Darwinism, Design, and Public Education, Edited By: Campbell, John Angus and Meyer, Stephen (Michigan State University Press, 2003).

·  Debating Design: From Darwin to DNA, Edited By: William A. Dembski and Michael Ruse (Cambridge University Press, 2004).


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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2009,08:38   

Any update on the DMCA claim shenanigans?

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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2009,09:30   

Quote (Richardthughes @ June 19 2009,08:38)
Any update on the DMCA claim shenanigans?

Rich - So, just pop over to the Discovery Institute's Open Forum, where I am sure with a name like that they encourage an open and free exchange of ideas, and I am sure Casey would be happy to repond to any reasonable question.



Wait, What?  Oh.  Never mind.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2009,11:21   

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Luskin Fail:"ID Proponent: DNA. Genetic code. Language. Commands. Information. Intelligent design.

Darwinist: Wedge."


Darwinist: Nonsequitur.  Code does not equal language.  

Information is the result of applying information theory (formally or from an intelligent being applying context), and implies nothing about intelligence being related to the phenomenon it was applied to.

and so on...

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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2009,13:11   

"Darwinist":

The same nested hierarchy followed both by anatomical structures and DNA sequences.

Presence of fossil series in geological layers.

Some fossils predicted before their discovery.

Information: an evolving gene pool acquires information about what worked from its environment.

Presence of unanswered questions: Unanswered questions will exist regardless of what model is correct.

"Intelligent Design": It doesn't explain anything.*

*Tip to IDer: find some consistently observed pattern of observations that would be a logical consequence of life being deliberately engineered by somebody or something.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2009,15:20   

Quote (Henry J @ June 19 2009,11:11)
*Tip to IDer: find some consistently observed pattern of observations that would be a logical consequence of life being deliberately engineered by somebody or something.

Given the usual ixnay-on-the-odgay formulation of ID (an unidentified designer did unspecified things at undetermined times for unfathomable reasons): all the observations you mentioned are consistent with ID.  So are any other observations, hypothetical or actual.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2009,15:24   

The shorter Luskin:


"Comments are closed."

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2009,16:18   

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all the observations you mentioned are consistent with ID.

Even the one about I.D. not explaining anything?  :)

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2009,17:40   

Quote (Henry J @ June 19 2009,14:18)
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all the observations you mentioned are consistent with ID.

Even the one about I.D. not explaining anything?  :)

Yep.  GodThe unknown designer could have disguised everything.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2009,20:56   

I assume that Casey Luskin reads this site.  How else would he know we call him an Attack Gerbil, DI Shill and Fuckwit?

I also assume that Casey Luskin is not banned from posting here.  He could defend himself, call us fuckwits or invite us to help him serve soup to the homeless in Seattle.

Thus, freedom of speech, academic freedom and teach the controversy is alive and well at the Panda's Thumb.  Come on over, Casey, we'd love to play.

I don't have to assume, because I know for a FACT that freedom of speech, academic freedom and teaching the controversy is BANNED at the Discovery Institute's website.  Yes, a standard of free speech for us and a different standard for the proclaimers of free speech and academic freedom at the DI.

Not surprising, though.  In every forum where Luskin has squeaked he's had his little furry ass kicked by people who actually know what they're talking about because Luskin is invariably WRoNG.

So my challenge to Luskin and the DI is to come here and do your best.  Show us that we're wrong and demonstrate why.

Somehow I think it's going to be summer crickets at night time.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2009,22:19   

Quote (Doc Bill @ June 19 2009,18:56)

So my challenge to Luskin and the DI is to come here and do your best.  Show us that we're wrong and demonstrate why.

Somehow I think it's going to be summer crickets at night time.

Casey did grace us with his presence once, in this very thread http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin....y104779

As should be plain to any reasonable person, this is simply not the right venue* but he does very generously forgive us all.

* For unspecified reasons which undoubtedly have absolutely nothing to do with the fact there is no ID friendly censorship here!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 09 2009,11:43   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-K_VY6VZZw


hahahaha

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 09 2009,12:19   

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-K_VY6VZZw


hahahaha

Good catch - thanks for the link.... I am sure that Casey will pray for you and forgive you too!:)

Perhaps this means that I have to update Casey's YMCA song to a Casey is an asshat / DMCA song.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 09 2009,14:02   

Notice how Casey the Wonder Gerbil and aspiring Legal Begle doesn't tweak that the call may be recorded until the very end, even though qDragon1337 clearly states that he's a YouTube user right at the start of the conversation.  Get a clue, Casey!

Also, Casey not very skillfully avoids answering the question which was directed at activities by the DI, not Casey personally.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 09 2009,14:40   

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-K_VY6VZZw


hahahaha

That's great.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 09 2009,16:41   

Casey Luskin and the forgiveness reflex:
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In the end, I can cheerfully forgive Kevin Beck...

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[To Tiana Dietz]:
I get called unjustified names all the time on the ‘net and so I made my peace with such people and such incidents long ago; so I’m not angry about this, and as I said in my prior e-mail to you, I forgive you.

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[Second email to Tiana Dietz]:
Regardless of where you choose to go from here, I want you to know that I forgive you, I wish you the best in your life, and I also hope, for your own sakes that you can join the culture of civility and friendship that is very real and very vibrant.

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In one single forum at Antievolution.org, created and owned by a former National Center for Science Education staff member, I have been called no less than “Bizarre ignoramus,” “retarded,” “suck-up,” “Pathetic Loser,” “attack mouse, gerbil, rat, or clockwork powered plush toy,” “an orc,” “Annoying,” “a miserable loser with no life,” “an idiot,” “dishonest,” “ignorant cheap poxied floozie,” “fanatic and lunatic,” “A proven liar,” “incompetent,” and many other far more colorful attacks which are probably best left unprinted here on Evolution News and Views.

I don’t list this example to complain — I happily forgive those who have attacked me...

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Dear all,

I could say much in defense of myself here, but this is neither the time nor the appropriate venue to do so.  In this regard, I have one, and only one post to make, and one, and only one thing to say: I forgive you all for how you have treated me here, and most of all I forgive Wesley Elsberry and Steve Story.

Sincerely,

Casey Luskin

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But I forgive Wesley regardless of whether he does the right thing here, and I will continue to be nice to him in the future.

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[To qdragon1337]:
I'm hanging up this phone right now 'cause you have made an illegal action against me and I appreciate your time. If this gets posted you should be aware that I, my understanding is that it is illegal to record a phone call without somebody's knowledge, or letting them know about that first, so I'm going to hang up this phone because you have done something illegal, hope you have a nice day, I have no ill will against you, and I forgive you for the illegal action that you have [unintelligible] today. Have a nice day.  Thank you very much. Bye.


Hey Casey,

It seems like you've forgiven everyone but me.  I feel left out.  You even forgave Wes and Tiana Dietz twice.  What do I have to do to be granted your forgiveness?  If I call you a sanctimonious douchebag, will you forgive me?  Oh, wait -- that would be true, so there would be no need for forgiveness.

Never mind.

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