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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2008,21:13   

Quote (afarensis @ Dec. 22 2008,21:42)
Awww, Casey's dream is dead.

I'm sure there is a lolcat out there somewhere that is appropriate for the occasion.

Waterloo! Waterloo! Any day now!

lol, that's brutal.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2008,21:26   

Quote (afarensis @ Dec. 22 2008,18:42)
Awww, Casey's dream is dead.

I'm sure there is a lolcat out there somewhere that is appropriate for the occasion.


Oh very well:





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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 23 2008,08:03   

Bwa ha ha!  I liked Casey's comment about how he would love to stay, and chat, but he has to go wash his hair...

"And brave Sir Casey ran away, ran away, ran away..."



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 23 2008,14:06   

I like Casey's comment that:
 
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This week alone the IDEA Center received requests to start about 3 new IDEA Clubs.


About 3? That's the sort of mathematical and scientific precision I've come to expect from the DI and its mouthpieces.

http://evolutionlist.blogspot.com/2008....5888201

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 23 2008,14:24   

If the DI is actually funding these clubs, they might want to keep some of them more "on-message". The website for the chapter in Baraboo, WI has this on its list of purposes.    
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? Promote, as a scientific theory, the idea that life was designed by an Intelligent Designer

? Hold, through other arguments, that the identity of the Designer is consistent with the God of the Bible

? Educate people about scientific problems with purely natural explanations for the origins and evolution of life

? Challenge the philosophical assumptions of Darwinism, naturalism, and materialism

Interestingly, the "statement of purpose" in the Sample Club Charter at the national IDEA center has a duplicate entry in the list of purposes.  
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Statement of Purpose: The purpose of this organization shall be to:

  1. Promote, as a scientific theory, the idea that life was designed by an intelligent designer,
  2. Educate people about scientific problems with purely natural explanations for the origins and evolution of life,
  3. Challenge the philosophical assumptions of Darwinism, naturalism, and materialism,
  4. Challenge the philosophical assumptions of Darwinism, naturalism, and materialism,
  5. Support academic freedom for legitimate intellectual viewpoints in academia and the culture as a whole;
  6. Facilitate discussion, debate, and dialogue over these issues in a warm, friendly, and open atmosphere where individuals feel free to speak their personal views.

Is this another typo by ace lawyer Luskin, or was there another purpose in the orginal list that has been fossilized in the Baraboo club's website?

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 23 2008,14:56   

Baraboo isn't big.  This link to my blog shows a little of what it's like nearby.  Kinda.  :)  Anyways, I think that the local amateur geology club is bigger than the IDEA chapter anyways.  :P

Anyways, enjoy:  Barabooboo

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 24 2008,08:27   

Blood in the water as Casey takes on Ken Miller

Someone should tell Casey that self-flagellation should come after swimming.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 24 2008,08:48   

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Dec. 24 2008,08:27)
Blood in the water as Casey takes on Ken Miller

Someone should tell Casey that self-flagellation should come after swimming.

It's only Episode 1 in the series, but Casey has already jumped the shark:  
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I like to explain the "irreducible core" using the analogy of a bicycle: A bicycle has an irreducible core that requires a frame, two wheels, a motor mechanism (like legs on pedals), and a steering mechanism (like handle-bars attached to the front wheel). A bicycle also has a seat, but obviously you can ride a bike without a seat (though it wouldn't be very fun). So, while the seat sure helps a lot, it is not part of the irreducible core of a bike. Same could be said for light deflectors, etc. So the fact that a bike has a couple dispensable parts doesn't mean that there isn't an irreducible core to a bike.


Image: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Torker_Unicycle.JPG

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 24 2008,08:57   

Quote (olegt @ Dec. 24 2008,08:48)
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Dec. 24 2008,08:27)
Blood in the water as Casey takes on Ken Miller

Someone should tell Casey that self-flagellation should come after swimming.

It's only Episode 1 in the series, but Casey has already jumped the shark:  

No gears. No pedals. No seat.



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 24 2008,13:43   

Quote (olegt @ Dec. 24 2008,06:48)
 
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Dec. 24 2008,08:27)
Blood in the water as Casey takes on Ken Miller

Someone should tell Casey that self-flagellation should come after swimming.

It's only Episode 1 in the series, but Casey has already jumped the shark:    
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I like to explain the "irreducible core" using the analogy of a bicycle: A bicycle has an irreducible core that requires a frame, two wheels, a motor mechanism (like legs on pedals), and a steering mechanism (like handle-bars attached to the front wheel). A bicycle also has a seat, but obviously you can ride a bike without a seat (though it wouldn't be very fun). So, while the seat sure helps a lot, it is not part of the irreducible core of a bike. Same could be said for light deflectors, etc. So the fact that a bike has a couple dispensable parts doesn't mean that there isn't an irreducible core to a bike.


Image: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Torker_Unicycle.JPG

HAH! SILLY DARWINIST!

You clearly have fallen victim to Casey's diabolical trap! Your obviously staged photograph is of a unicycle! The Hero of the IDEA revolution was talking about a bicycle! Has anyone ever seen a unicycle evolve into a bicycle?

But seriously. Does Casey even read what he writes? And what are "light deflectors"? Does his bike have shielding technology?

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 24 2008,16:34   

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Does his bike have shielding technology?


Reality shields.

Discovery Institute standard issue.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 25 2008,16:08   

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The funniest thing is this: Casey thinks that the book is "aimed at students — perhaps junior high or high school-aged."  The publisher recommends it for ages 9-12.

Life on Other Planets on amazon.com.

Well, there's the problem. Casey is too young short to be in the Adult section. A good librarian would have provided better guidance. No wonder he was having difficulty-that book was WAY too advanced* for him.

*credit to MiB

FTFY

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Doc Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 26 2008,19:47   

Question:  Once you've jumped a shark successfully, does that make you an idiot, a fool or an Expert Shark Jumper?

Our pal Casey gives us the answer out at Evo News and Views with his "review" of Edward Humes book "Monkey Girl" where Casey references such stellar intellectual, scientific and historical websites as ...

... wait for it ...

FTK!

Yes, Casey offers as PROOF ReasonableKansans!!

Go, Casey!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 26 2008,20:01   

Quote (Doc Bill @ Dec. 26 2008,19:47)
Question:  Once you've jumped a shark successfully, does that make you an idiot, a fool or an Expert Shark Jumper?

Our pal Casey gives us the answer out at Evo News and Views with his "review" of Edward Humes book "Monkey Girl" where Casey references such stellar intellectual, scientific and historical websites as ...

... wait for it ...

FTK!

Yes, Casey offers as PROOF ReasonableKansans!!

Go, Casey!

Hume's "Monkey Girl" was first published on January 30, 2007, just a month and a few days shy of two years ago. Just a week or so ago, Luskin was flailing away at Judge Jones three year old ruling in the Kitzmiller case.

If I didn't know any better, I'd think these guys keep recycling the same old crap since they don't have any recent ground breaking scientific discoveries to share with us.  Good thing I know better.  ;)

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 26 2008,20:10   

Quote (Doc Bill @ Dec. 26 2008,20:47)
Question:  Once you've jumped a shark successfully, does that make you an idiot, a fool or an Expert Shark Jumper?

Our pal Casey gives us the answer out at Evo News and Views with his "review" of Edward Humes book "Monkey Girl" where Casey references such stellar intellectual, scientific and historical websites as ...

... wait for it ...

FTK!

Yes, Casey offers as PROOF ReasonableKansans!!

Go, Casey!

holy crap.

That's all I got.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 26 2008,20:14   

Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 26 2008,21:10)
Quote (Doc Bill @ Dec. 26 2008,20:47)
Question:  Once you've jumped a shark successfully, does that make you an idiot, a fool or an Expert Shark Jumper?

Our pal Casey gives us the answer out at Evo News and Views with his "review" of Edward Humes book "Monkey Girl" where Casey references such stellar intellectual, scientific and historical websites as ...

... wait for it ...

FTK!

Yes, Casey offers as PROOF ReasonableKansans!!

Go, Casey!

holy crap.

That's all I got.

Great hot heaping hunks of TARD.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 26 2008,20:29   

Oh, the irony is thick as Casey goes on a longwinded rant about how Monkey Girl is partisan and inaccurate, all the while using for support.... Discovery.org and his own articles at EN&V, with a few references to F'theKids as gravy on the TardSandwich.

 
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One of the most pernicious aspects of Monkey Girl is its extensive use of caricaturing, consistently indulging stereotypes that portray Darwin-skeptics as “yahoos, religious zealots, and scientifically suspect charlatans” (p. 28) while portraying evolutionists as interesting, intelligent, and cool scientists. I have no objections to Humes' positive portrayals of evolutionists, but it's difficult to believe Humes' complaints about stereotyping when his selection and portrayal of pro-ID characters encourages the reader to accept those negative stereotypes about Darwin-skeptics. For example, Humes contrasts a favorable description of a theistic evolutionist geologist with a fundamentalist preacher who preaches that it's “a sin (not to mention tasteless, unpatriotic, and downright rude)” (p. 21) to accept evolution. Humes characterizes the preacher as close-minded, saying, "the devil with Charles Darwin. Literally.” (pg. 22) Humes gives inordinate amounts of print-space to discussing other extremist examples like the "creationist evangelist" Kent Hovind. Humes admits that Hovind is “probably the last person with whom advocates of design at the Discovery Institute would wish to see their cause associated.” (pg. 67) That may be true, which makes it highly suspicious that Humes spends so much time to discussing Hovind in a book about intelligent design. For details on these "Inherit the Wind Stereotypes," see Phillip Johnson, “Defeating Darwinism by Opening Minds," and for commentary about Monkey Girl's use of stereotyping, see Reasonable Kansans blogs at http://reasonablekansans.blogspot.com/2007/03/just-thinking.html and http://reasonablekansans.blogspot.com/2007....rl.html.


Hey Casey, nice move using F'theKids to argue that Monkey Girl is wrong in its "extensive use of caricaturing, consistently indulging stereotypes that portray Darwin-skeptics as “yahoos, religious zealots, and scientifically suspect charlatans”'

That's pretty damned funny right there. Comedic gold.

Oh, and
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inordinate amounts of print-space to discussing other extremist examples like the "creationist evangelist" Kent Hovind
?

You're absolutely right. He should have, in all fairness, spent more time on more mainstream cdesign proponentsists.  Like Uncle Walty or F'theKids, right?

Thanks, Casey. Happy Holidays, dude.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 28 2008,10:34   

Luskin and reality have never really been friends. Sure, he winks and makes flirty noises at reality, but has never been able to seal the deal. My favorite qoute from the article is this:

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Where does Humes get this false idea that we promote such a "conspiracy" theory? He doesn't say. This seems to be more imaginative journalism on the part of Humes, who gives no documentation whatsoever to back up his claim that Discovery Institute postulates such an outlandish "vast conspiracy" theory.


Maybe Hume saw Expelled?

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 30 2008,18:58   

Apparently, Casey is in worse shape than I thought.  He knows that unicycles exist, but he still insists that a bicycle is irreducible:      
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For example, consider again the bicycle. Bicycles have two wheels. Unicycles, having only one wheel, are missing an obvious component found on bicycles. Does this imply that you can remove one wheel from a bicycle and it will still function? Of course not. Try removing a wheel from a bike and you'll quickly see that it requires two wheels to function. The fact that a unicycle lacks certain components of a bicycle does not mean that the bicycle is therefore not irreducibly complex.

A round of applause, please!

And now, for Casey's sake, here's a video of a bicycle with one wheel that functions pretty well.  Enjoy!

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 30 2008,19:16   

Quote (khan @ Dec. 26 2008,18:14)
 
Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 26 2008,21:10)
 
Quote (Doc Bill @ Dec. 26 2008,20:47)
Question:  Once you've jumped a shark successfully, does that make you an idiot, a fool or an Expert Shark Jumper?

Our pal Casey gives us the answer out at Evo News and Views with his "review" of Edward Humes book "Monkey Girl" where Casey references such stellar intellectual, scientific and historical websites as ...

... wait for it ...

FTK!

Yes, Casey offers as PROOF ReasonableKansans!!

Go, Casey!

holy crap.

That's all I got.

Great hot heaping hunks of TARD.

Great hot heaping steaming hunks of tard. :O

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 31 2008,01:49   

I'd love this to be referenced on UD with all of the true believers being forced to defend it ( being as they have to defend everything any other IDist says).

I wonder in private if somebody doesn't come up to Luskin and wack him in the back of the head and tell him to think before publishing.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 31 2008,08:14   

Quote (bystander @ Dec. 31 2008,01:49)
I'd love this to be referenced on UD with all of the true believers being forced to defend it ( being as they have to defend everything any other IDist says).

I wonder in private if somebody doesn't come up to Luskin and wack him in the back of the head and tell him to think before publishing.

I suspect that anyone that has Luskin working for them would do your "wack in the back of the head" several times a day.

Top 10 Other Habits of Casey Luskin's Bosses

10.) Drink heavily, early and often
9.) View Travel Posters longingly
8.) Update resume and send out on a regular basis
7.) Send out Casey's resume to other employers every day
6.) Evolve from fervent ID Creationist to Type 1 Atheist (How could a good and loving God inflict a Luskin on me???!!!)
5.) Develop an unreasoning fear of caterpillars
4.) Finally begin to realize what Shakespeare meant with his line about "the lawyers".
3.) Start to re-read old legal cases with verdicts of "justifiable homicide".
2.) Pressure HR to start hiring disgruntled Postal Workers
1.) Start writing fiction books as an escape from reality - first book called The Design Of Life

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 31 2008,08:53   

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I wonder in private if somebody doesn't come up to Luskin and wack him in the back of the head and tell him to think before publishing.


Alas, this is clearly not the case.  Our uni-browed, pinheaded friend, Luskin, has found his ecological niche.  He is Nature's answer to What's a Creationist Propagandist look like?

From observations in the wild I give you Luskin's boss, Rob Crowther, who writes excitingly about

New Research

Rob writes:

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Here is another hilarious example of a just-so story from Science Daily. (In fact, this one is more just so-so.) Substitute the words "made up" whenever you read characterized. Were they in court, a judge would surely say: "Show me the evidence."


He hasn't even read the article in Nature because it's not out yet.  He's commenting on a report of a report.

What Rob is saying is that the researchers "made up" their report.  Invented it.  Fabricated.  Just-so.

I don't know about you but in my book that's intellectual slander.

Returning, now, the main thesis, based on Rob's behavior I conclude that Casey isn't an idiot, he's an apprentice!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 31 2008,09:15   

Casey Luskin, victim:
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On a personal note, I am familiar with these kinds of attacks. In one single forum at Antievolution.org, created and owned by a former National Center for Science Education staff member, I have been called no less than "Bizarre ignoramus," "retarded," "suck-up," "Pathetic Loser," "attack mouse, gerbil, rat, or clockwork powered plush toy," "an orc," "Annoying," "a miserable loser with no life," "an idiot," "dishonest," "ignorant cheap poxied floozie," "fanatic and lunatic," "A proven liar," "incompetent," and many other far more colorful attacks which are probably best left unprinted here on Evolution News and Views.

I don't list this example to complain — I happily forgive those who have attacked me, and in fact my main response to this behavior is sadness for how it brings the ID-evolution debate down into the gutter. Rather, I raise this example to point out that this example alone finds no counterpart anywhere in the ways that ID proponents have treated Darwinists. The internet Darwinist track record of name-calling against ID proponents speaks for itself, and Humes has portrayed the nature of personal attacks in this issue exactly backwards from reality.

It is a travesty when anyone — whether a supporter of evolution or ID — is attacked in a mean-spirited fashion in this debate. Humes aims to shock his readers with how evolutionists are treated, while taking no interest in reporting how ID proponents are treated--which is dramatically worse than the treatment of Darwinists. This shows his partisan bias against ID proponents.


This alternative reality in which ID supporters don't harass science supporters is brought to you by EN&V.

According to my copy of "Monkey Girl," it looks like Casey would like us to ignore these bits:

p. xi - Rev. Jim Grove calling the court proceedings "the Devil's work."  

p. xii - Grove stating that "you're sure not going to hear [the truth] in there" referring to the courtroom.

p. xiv - "Children have been ridiculed in the school yard for being open to the concept evolution, taunted and mocked for being related to monkeys.  A Dover High School student's senior project, a sixteen-foot mural depicting the ascent of man from lower forms, which had been donated to the school and displayed in a science classroom, was taken down and burned - not by vandals, but by a school district official, with the  tacit, if no gleeful approval of school board members."

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 31 2008,10:06   

""Bizarre ignoramus," "retarded," "suck-up," "Pathetic Loser," "attack mouse, gerbil, rat, or clockwork powered plush toy," "an orc," "Annoying," "a miserable loser with no life," "an idiot," "dishonest," "ignorant cheap poxied floozie," "fanatic and lunatic," "A proven liar," "incompetent,"

Com'on! We can do better than that!

Here, I'll get the ball rolling...."AV Club dropout"...."Pseudo-Nerd"...."Intellectual Wannabe"....

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 31 2008,11:09   

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""Bizarre ignoramus," "retarded," "suck-up," "Pathetic Loser," "attack mouse, gerbil, rat, or clockwork powered plush toy," "an orc," "Annoying," "a miserable loser with no life," "an idiot," "dishonest," "ignorant cheap poxied floozie," "fanatic and lunatic," "A proven liar," "incompetent,"

Com'on! We can do better than that!

Here, I'll get the ball rolling...."AV Club dropout"...."Pseudo-Nerd"...."Intellectual Wannabe"....

But....

When You've Said Luskin .. You've Said it All!

except maybe for poopy head, which of course he is and will always be.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 31 2008,12:45   

Quote (csadams @ Dec. 31 2008,09:15)
Casey Luskin, victim:
 
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On a personal note, I am familiar with these kinds of attacks. In one single forum at Antievolution.org, created and owned by a former National Center for Science Education staff member, I have been called no less than "Bizarre ignoramus," "retarded," "suck-up," "Pathetic Loser," "attack mouse, gerbil, rat, or clockwork powered plush toy," "an orc," "Annoying," "a miserable loser with no life," "an idiot," "dishonest," "ignorant cheap poxied floozie," "fanatic and lunatic," "A proven liar," "incompetent," and many other far more colorful attacks which are probably best left unprinted here on Evolution News and Views.

I don't list this example to complain — I happily forgive those who have attacked me, and in fact my main response to this behavior is sadness for how it brings the ID-evolution debate down into the gutter. Rather, I raise this example to point out that this example alone finds no counterpart anywhere in the ways that ID proponents have treated Darwinists. The internet Darwinist track record of name-calling against ID proponents speaks for itself, and Humes has portrayed the nature of personal attacks in this issue exactly backwards from reality.

It is a travesty when anyone — whether a supporter of evolution or ID — is attacked in a mean-spirited fashion in this debate. Humes aims to shock his readers with how evolutionists are treated, while taking no interest in reporting how ID proponents are treated--which is dramatically worse than the treatment of Darwinists. This shows his partisan bias against ID proponents.


This alternative reality in which ID supporters don't harass science supporters is brought to you by EN&V.

Casey ought to be happy that we didn't compare him to a member of a evil, fascist political party that was responsible for starting a world war and engaging in the mass extermination of millions of people.  Us Darwinists have our limits, you know.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 31 2008,13:06   

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Casey ought to be happy that we didn't compare him to a member of a evil, fascist political party that was responsible for starting a world war and engaging in the mass extermination of millions of people.  Us Darwinists have our limits, you know.

I think Cassey should be sacrificing a herd of oxen a day to Zeus that he lives in a kind of world that allows people to give in to some weird inner fantasy that says it is okay to talk to Magic Unseen Beings.

And of course, not get burned at the stake for wearing a caterpillar on his face, or acting totally lame and behaving like an asshat.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 31 2008,14:56   

Doc Bill:
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Our uni-browed, pinheaded friend, Luskin, has found his ecological niche.

Ahem.

If he's never been recognized or adopted by the clan mothers, he simply ain't a Pinhead, sorry.

A moron, a lowlife, a scumsucker, sure.

All those things that (probable distant relation and "honorary" pinhead) Steverino called him, no doubt.

But a Pinhead, no...

The clan's lawyer's are calling the doc's lawyers, even as we weep!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 31 2008,15:27   

Quote (bystander @ Dec. 31 2008,01:49)
I'd love this to be referenced on UD with all of the true believers being forced to defend it ( being as they have to defend everything any other IDist says).

I wonder in private if somebody doesn't come up to Luskin and wack him in the back of the head and tell him to think before publishing.

Your wish has been granted.

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....plexity

  
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