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k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2009,11:07   



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Writer David Mirkin thinks that what makes Abe funny is that the "boring" and "tedium" things he says are "actually funny" in the context of the boring and the tedium.


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"I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit
"Abbie Smith (ERV) who's got to be the most obnoxious arrogant snot I've ever seen except for when I look in a mirror" DAVE TARD
"ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus

  
Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2009,11:11   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 24 2009,17:03)
Quote (Hermagoras @ Mar. 24 2009,11:00)
How many times has Joe suggested physical confrontation to someone an ID or evolution board?

He's really really brave behind his keyboard and the anonymity of the Internet. (Just like the rest of us!  :) )

That's science should be settled - fisticuffs! Thump the controversy!

Hey!

I'm really brave, and I'll meet you in the car park of your choice to prove it. I'm not scared of clowns either (just professors ;-) )

Louis

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Kristine



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2009,11:50   

Quote (Henry J @ Mar. 24 2009,10:41)
 
Quote (Kristine @ Mar. 24 2009,09:24)
Can someone tell me how he arrived at 1010?

Well, if it was a five minute drive, and he started at 1005...

But seriously, I reckon he assumed 5 bits per character, even though that allows only one case, and no more than 6 non-letter characters.

Henry

Because I see where he thinks he's going with this I perceive a typo - well, let's see if my comment appears.

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Kristine



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2009,15:43   

Quote (Kristine @ Mar. 24 2009,11:50)
Quote (Henry J @ Mar. 24 2009,10:41)
   
Quote (Kristine @ Mar. 24 2009,09:24)
Can someone tell me how he arrived at 1010?

Well, if it was a five minute drive, and he started at 1005...

But seriously, I reckon he assumed 5 bits per character, even though that allows only one case, and no more than 6 non-letter characters.

Henry

Because I see where he thinks he's going with this I perceive a typo - well, let's see if my comment appears.

*Checks watch*
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Did you intend to type 1616 instead of 1010?

Silence reigns. I should have said 1818 just for kicks.

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Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip?

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"I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive

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FrankH



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2009,08:17   

Quote (Kristine @ Mar. 24 2009,15:43)
Quote (Kristine @ Mar. 24 2009,11:50)
Quote (Henry J @ Mar. 24 2009,10:41)
Quote (Kristine @ Mar. 24 2009,09:24)
Can someone tell me how he arrived at 1010?
Well, if it was a five minute drive, and he started at 1005...

But seriously, I reckon he assumed 5 bits per character, even though that allows only one case, and no more than 6 non-letter characters.

Henry
Because I see where he thinks he's going with this I perceive a typo - well, let's see if my comment appears.
*Checks watch*
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Did you intend to type 1616 instead of 1010?
Silence reigns. I should have said 1818 just for kicks.

What if it's 1812?

Can we get an overture for that?

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2009,08:57   

He's baaaaaack:


https://www.blogger.com/comment....&page=1

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"Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield
"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2009,09:41   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 25 2009,16:57)
He's baaaaaack:


https://www.blogger.com/comment....&page=1

Oh Christ I laffed my ass right off and it fell on the floor and rolled out the door down the steps all the way to the beach and swam out to a waiting cruise ship boarded it and had a holiday in Thailand.

WITHOUT ME YOU FREAKING HOMO!!!!!

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"I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit
"Abbie Smith (ERV) who's got to be the most obnoxious arrogant snot I've ever seen except for when I look in a mirror" DAVE TARD
"ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus

  
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2009,09:55   

He's digging in for an embattled defense..

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"Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield
"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2009,10:10   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 25 2009,17:55)
He's digging in for an embattled defense..

OK, do we send him guns or butter?

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"I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit
"Abbie Smith (ERV) who's got to be the most obnoxious arrogant snot I've ever seen except for when I look in a mirror" DAVE TARD
"ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus

  
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2009,10:12   

Quote (k.e.. @ Mar. 25 2009,10:10)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 25 2009,17:55)
He's digging in for an embattled defense..

OK, do we send him guns or butter?

Butter. being a longer word, it has more CSI and so is more useful.

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"Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield
"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
khan



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2009,10:14   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 25 2009,11:12)
Quote (k.e.. @ Mar. 25 2009,10:10)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 25 2009,17:55)
He's digging in for an embattled defense..

OK, do we send him guns or butter?

Butter. being a longer word, it has more CSI and so is more useful.

The very best butter?

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"It's as if all those words, in their hurry to escape from the loony, have fallen over each other, forming scrambled heaps of meaninglessness." -damitall

That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad

  
J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2009,10:26   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 25 2009,10:12)
Quote (k.e.. @ Mar. 25 2009,10:10)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 25 2009,17:55)
He's digging in for an embattled defense..

OK, do we send him guns or butter?

Butter. being a longer word, it has more CSI and so is more useful.

Based on this, and of course that he spends his day with his head surrounded by his own, Joe would get even MORE use out of the word buttocks.

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Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2009,11:46   

I think he's trying to measure the CSI of insults now:

https://www.blogger.com/comment....&page=1

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"Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield
"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2009,11:55   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 25 2009,11:46)
I think he's trying to measure the CSI of insults now:

https://www.blogger.com/comment....&page=1

He's got the "How To Run An ID Blog" rules down - I tried to blog over there but got this famous IC statement:  

"Your comment has been saved and will be visible after
blog owner approval. "

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Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
Kristine



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2009,12:59   

Yes, I know how to multiply, Joe.

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Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip?

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2009,13:37   

You want to multiply with Joe?


*Reverse Shimmy*

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"Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield
"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
dheddle



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2009,13:52   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 25 2009,13:37)
You want to multiply with Joe?


*Reverse Shimmy*

OT: What is a shimmy?

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Mysticism is a rational enterprise. Religion is not. The mystic has recognized something about the nature of consciousness prior to thought, and this recognition is susceptible to rational discussion. The mystic has reason for what he believes, and these reasons are empirical. --Sam Harris

   
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2009,13:53   

Quote (dheddle @ Mar. 25 2009,13:52)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 25 2009,13:37)
You want to multiply with Joe?


*Reverse Shimmy*

OT: What is a shimmy?

So you know when you get a lapdance and ...


oh, HEDDLE..right....


So you know when you GIVE a lapdance...

J/K Dave  :D

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"Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield
"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
dheddle



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2009,13:57   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 25 2009,13:53)
Quote (dheddle @ Mar. 25 2009,13:52)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 25 2009,13:37)
You want to multiply with Joe?


*Reverse Shimmy*

OT: What is a shimmy?

So you know when you get a lapdance and ...


oh, HEDDLE..right....


So you know when you GIVE a lapdance...

J/K Dave  :D

Ahh, so this is a shimmy.

Then I don't understand what a "reverse shimmy" is. It would appear to be time reversal invariant.

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Mysticism is a rational enterprise. Religion is not. The mystic has recognized something about the nature of consciousness prior to thought, and this recognition is susceptible to rational discussion. The mystic has reason for what he believes, and these reasons are empirical. --Sam Harris

   
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2009,14:01   

It's only for pros like Tarden and Carlson:

http://ats.tribe.net/thread/0d98e825-8f43-4660-a5f9-31030bcb09c1

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"Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield
"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
dheddle



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2009,14:14   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 25 2009,14:01)
It's only for pros like Tarden and Carlson:

http://ats.tribe.net/thread/0d98e825-8f43-4660-a5f9-31030bcb09c1

I always say that a day is not successful unless I learn something new. Mission accomplished.

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Mysticism is a rational enterprise. Religion is not. The mystic has recognized something about the nature of consciousness prior to thought, and this recognition is susceptible to rational discussion. The mystic has reason for what he believes, and these reasons are empirical. --Sam Harris

   
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2009,14:16   

Quote (dheddle @ Mar. 25 2009,14:14)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 25 2009,14:01)
It's only for pros like Tarden and Carlson:

http://ats.tribe.net/thread/0d98e825-8f43-4660-a5f9-31030bcb09c1

I always say that a day is not successful unless I learn something new. Mission accomplished.

Learn by doing, Dave. Then post a Youtube. Then link here so we can mock enjoy.

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"Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield
"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
dheddle



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2009,14:18   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 25 2009,14:16)
Quote (dheddle @ Mar. 25 2009,14:14)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 25 2009,14:01)
It's only for pros like Tarden and Carlson:

http://ats.tribe.net/thread/0d98e825-8f43-4660-a5f9-31030bcb09c1

I always say that a day is not successful unless I learn something new. Mission accomplished.

Learn by doing, Dave. Then post a Youtube. Then link here so we can mock enjoy.

I dance better than Al Gore. That's all I'll say.

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Mysticism is a rational enterprise. Religion is not. The mystic has recognized something about the nature of consciousness prior to thought, and this recognition is susceptible to rational discussion. The mystic has reason for what he believes, and these reasons are empirical. --Sam Harris

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2009,14:38   

Quote (dheddle @ Mar. 25 2009,13:57)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 25 2009,13:53)
   
Quote (dheddle @ Mar. 25 2009,13:52)
   
Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 25 2009,13:37)
You want to multiply with Joe?


*Reverse Shimmy*

OT: What is a shimmy?

So you know when you get a lapdance and ...


oh, HEDDLE..right....


So you know when you GIVE a lapdance...

J/K Dave  :D

Ahh, so this is a shimmy.

Then I don't understand what a "reverse shimmy" is. It would appear to be time reversal invariant.

That's only a shoulder shimmy. Here.
There are no "reverse shimmies" Rich, sorry. You shimmied at Joe. :p Who had better make my comments appear!

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Kristine



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2009,17:07   

Anybody awake over at Joe's?
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Joe:    
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202 x 5 = 1010

Me: Yes, very good. 5 bits per character? Why? And are you assuming one case only?

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Joe:    
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It is the DEFINITION that gives the word any information.*

Me: Wait a minute. What do you mean by that? English literature does not equal information theory.

Which has more information:
the word "plus"
or
+
?

"Methinks it is like a weasel"
or
"AJEODSFL;PWERNPSRESJKLP

Methinks it not go pop.

*Sounds very much like: These instructions are not the sequence, rather they are embedded on the sequence, just as computer data is embedded on the disk.

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Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip?

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"I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive

"Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

  
Reed



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2009,00:07   

My god designer.

Joseph: Not even fractally wrong. Or would that be Joseph: Fractally not even wrong ?

  
Hermagoras



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2009,07:38   

This is funny:
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At 7:29 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

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Yes, very good. 5 bits per character? Why? Are you assuming one case only?


Does the information content change if the letters are capitalized?

IOW would the definition change?

No.

So why complicate things?


I have a cake recipe.  It says

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add 2 t of baking soda


or

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ADD 2 T OF BAKING SODA


Same information?  Same cake?

One thing's for sure: I'm not eating at Joe's house.

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slpage



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2009,09:05   

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How many times has Joe suggested physical confrontation to someone an ID or evolution board?

I don't know, but I may have been among the first.  I guess it must have been about 8-9 years ago on the old OCW forum.  He was his usual self, and a few of us had put him in his place on the issues and we all know that little Joey don't like that.

He posted my full name and my home address in a post, and later wrote that he might be passing through, and that "not everyone goes to Vermont to ski".

It came up again on NAIG shortly thereafter, and I'd had enough. We only live a few hours apart, and spring break was coming up, so I told him to give me a time and a place, and I'd be there.  He was suddenly too busy to post for about a week, and on the last day of my spring break, when the thread was about to scroll off the board, he makes a post boasting an 'anytime' sort of thing, then later claimed that I had chickened out.

He later 'challeneged' Chris Seibold and Robert R., and who knows who else, and I know dates and places had been discussed for at least a couple of people - Chris showed up at the agreed to time and place, Joey didn't, but he later claimed to have been there waiting (but could not accuratley describe anything at the venu) - or was that Blipey?  Or has that happened on more than one occasion?
I stopped interacting with him shortly thereafter, but I can only imagine how many times he's done this.

He's a classic internet bully/punk - talks tough when he knows there is little chance of actual confrontation, shows himself to be a big talking pussy when his bluff is called.

As an aside - he did also write of having had back surgery and to have re-injured himself in Iraq (I guess digging latrines is hard work).  Just mentioning a choice target and an obvious handicap, just in case... :p

  
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2009,09:16   

Joe is a wanna-be bully. Like the tiny dog that yaps and yaps, the advert oversells the reality. As he's recently retired, I suspect that telling you to 'get of his lawn' is as testy as it gets.

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"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
Kristine



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2009,09:38   

Quote (Hermagoras @ Mar. 26 2009,07:38)
This is funny:
   
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At 7:29 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

   
Quote
Yes, very good. 5 bits per character? Why? Are you assuming one case only?


Does the information content change if the letters are capitalized?

IOW would the definition change?

No.

So why complicate things?


I have a cake recipe.  It says

   
Quote
add 2 t of baking soda


or

   
Quote
ADD 2 T OF BAKING SODA


Same information?  Same cake?

One thing's for sure: I'm not eating at Joe's house.

Yes, I let that one go. (For one thing, I have added too much baking soda to a cake. If you’ve made it for a cakewalk at the neighborhood organization’s picnic and the moochers show up for free food, believe me they’ll eat it and like it.) I just notice that he's UPPING the 5-bit ANTE whenever HE FEELS LIKE IT. ;)

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Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip?

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