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Mike Elzinga

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2008,21:41   

I think jacobs posts were simply passive-aggressive behavior that comes from a deep hatred of evolution.

It reminds me of an incident I witnessed many years ago while standing in one of several long lines at a fast-food place during the noon hour.  The lines were moving fairly quickly since people figured out what they wanted as they waited.

However, a woman, two or three persons ahead of me, got up to the clerk and started staring at the menu for a long time.  She then stated her order, and as the clerk rang it up and gave her the cost, she decided to change her order.  She took several minutes to decide on the new order.  Again the clerk rang it up, quoted the cost, and she changed her order again.

She repeated this at least four times.  It took over 15 minutes; and then she decided she wasnt hungry, cancelled the order, glared at the people behind her, and walked out.

Thats called passive-aggression.

Misha

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2008,21:41   

Dang, the show's over? I was waiting for a grande finale. Just waiting for jacob to come with his zinger of a point only to find it shoved back at him. I read all 200+ posts for nothing. I was hoping for some science but all I got was, "he made fun of me so i'm not talking to him."

jacob took his ball and went home. but that's ok because we still have all these cool whale skulls to look at.

Now, i'm still learning a lot of biology. In fact i've learned the majority of my biology due to this whole ID problem. So, is there a way someone can continue a meaningful conversation on this whale topic. I'd like to learn something.

David Stanton

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2008,21:41   

Well Jacob, hours later and still no answers to my questions.

I am being civil.  I am asking politely like a gentleman.  I posted four references and asked you to explain the evidence.  You have not responded to my questions.  Why is that?

Either respond to the questions or admit that you have no answers.  Either explain the evidence or admit that you have no viable alternative.  Don't complain that people are rude.  Don't play games dividing numbers while making no discernable point.  Don't demand answers from others if you are not willing to provide them yourself.  Just answer the questions.

I am willing to give you just one more chance.  If you do not explain the evidence, I and everyone else will simply assume that you don't have any answers.

mark

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2008,21:45   

Okay, let's clarify this right now. The question is, how long did it take for random microevolutionary darwinism to cause one whale kind to change into another whale kind after the first whale kind got off the Ark?

jacob

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2008,21:45   

Well it seems like we are having a troll attack so I better go. I really did report this site to a filter. Adults can come here but I did report it was not suitable for children. I really would not want my kid exposed to the F word and vulgarities here. I guess its all right for adults but I think kids should not be exposed to bad language.

Have fun trolls!

Mike Elzinga

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2008,21:45   

The posts by jacob are either and extreme form of passive-agressive behavior or else we are watching evolution in real time.  If the latter, it's hard to tell which direction it is proceeding.

Science Avenger

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2008,21:45   

<i><b>Again sometimes a small gene change can make a large body plan change.</b></i>

You don't say!  Damn boy, you are just chock full of information.  Didja get that in the 3rd grade class where you learned to divide by 10?

Still waiting for some substance.  And I'll bet you think your intellectally dishonest shenigans is GOOD for kids to read.  Did you get your biology from a childre's book?  Sure sounds like it.

Stanton

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2008,21:45   

<blockquote>
<strong>jacob:</strong>


Your language show YOUR ignorance.


</blockquote>

Then show me why I am ignorant because you demand an explanation to why raccoons and hippopotamii are regarded as semi-aquatic animals.  Explain to me why the ability to metabolize penicilin, vancomycin, BT toxin, and nylon is not comparable to the event of humans evolving the ability to produce Vitamin C.  Explain to me why lactose tolerance is not a big issue, given as how millions of people have died from eating powdered milk rations given to them by missionaries and foreign aid workers.

Science Avenger

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2008,21:45   

<i><b>Stanton said:

Really, can someone, maybe Science Avenger, or PvM, explain to me why I, myself, am dense because jacob demonstrates that he has a crippling lack of desire to research information for himself?

</b></i>

Simple. Jacob thinks all that is unnecessary.  He thinks one can dscern the truth of such matters by sitting on his ass and doing what he calls "meta analysis", which amounts to making ignorant criticisms of others' work.

And since he is the standard by which right, wrong, rude, etc., are judged, your inability to understand him is a sign of a defect in YOU.  Just like me calling him a fucking ignoramus when he acts like a fucking ignoramus makes me a troll.  Humpty Jacob Dumpty.

Stanton

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2008,21:45   

<blockquote>
<strong>Science Avenger:</strong>

Did you get your biology from a children's book?  Sure sounds like it.
</blockquote>

No he did not, given as how biology books targeted at children do attempt to make explanations to why raccoons and hippopotamii are regarded as semi-aquatic animals.

MPW

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2008,23:10   

A lot of you people have been hanging around much longer and with greater frequency than myself.  Is it fair to say Jacob is one of the odder trolls PT has seen?  Commonplace denialist stonewalling for a while.  But that slide downhill towards the end into whining about the F word and claiming to report the site as porn because of bad words, was so goofy I read some of the little comments twice to be sure I wasn't mistaken about what he was saying.

Well, maybe he's gone.  If only it were so easy to get rid of all trolls.  I'd swear a lot more on this board.

rog

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2008,23:10   

jacob is a sad little fellow.  As pointed out earlier he does have passive-aggressive disease.  I feel very sorry for him and anyone who has a relationship with him.

Thank you to the Panda's core and related bloggers.  I learn more from you than I ever did in university.

pjb

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2008,23:10   

That was a hoot.  I must say it was a very successful trolling on the part of jacob.  I myself have a less-than-cursory knowledge of evolutionary biology, but I learned more about it from reading everyone's hilarious bashings, as well as from the rare attempts to actually go along with jacob's ridiculous "logical walk-through" than I ever did in any classroom.  Thanks for that.

jacob

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2008,23:13   

<blockquote>
<strong>fnxtr:</strong>

Jacob, PLEASE stop pretending to be Plato and GET TO THE POINT, if, in fact, you have one. Otherwise you are wasting everyone's time. That, sir, is rude. Thank you.
</blockquote>

No one is forcing you to read my posts. Please go away. Thank You

Zarquon

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2008,23:13   

<em>OK I reported this as a porn site. Hopefully kids will not be able to come here</em>

When he knows he's lost he tries censorship. Typical creationist.

jacob

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2008,23:13   

<blockquote>
<strong>Zarquon:</strong>

<em>OK I reported this as a porn site. Hopefully kids will not be able to come here</em>

When he knows he's lost he tries censorship. Typical creationist.

</blockquote>

So you want kids to be able to see porn? Now that is sick!

Zarquon

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2008,23:13   

So you can't tell what porn is? How stupid are you?

Science Avenger

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2008,23:13   

<i><b>... i wish i did not have to waste posts on trying to fight away the trolls</b></i>

Another divergence from reality eh?  You do not HAVE to argue with those of us you comically call "trolls" (about as accurate as calling this a porn site).  Simply drop your Last-wordism and make that fantabulous point you supposedly have.  Oh shit, another "F" word!  SAVE THE CHILDREN!

Prove us wrong.  Surely you would delight in rubbing our noses in your superior knowledge.  Lay it on us baby.  Or keep being a coward and making excuses.

Science Avenger

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2008,23:17   

Gee, an hour later and 11, count em, ELEVEN posts from Willie Whiner and STILL no progress towards any kind of point.

I now set the over/under on the dissembling dimwit ever making a point at 20 more posts.  Place your wagers.  I'm on the over, because Mr. In-Way-Over-His-Head had no point, ever.  Well, at least not one people who already know how to divide by ten would appreciate.

Hey Jacob, I hear there is a tic tac toe competition coming up.  I suggest you try that out, it seems more your speed, that is, if you can get your knuckles off the ground.

jacob

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2008,23:17   

""OK, I went through all the posts that you put up here. Most of them have to do with civility and tone, and have no substance. But you did have a question, I think, about how long it took whales to evolve. For all here, the question is interesting. But responding to Jacob, it is a bit of a red herring. Step back for a few minutes and consider that there are multiple things going on with this issue.""

just saw the above. well those were responses to comment like 'you are an idiot, a moron and ignorant" etc and i was asking the trolls to stop. they eventually did and i wish i did not have to waste posts on trying to fight away the trolls but it just seem to be the way things are around here.

Science Avenger

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2008,23:26   

Thank you Stanton for that most enlightening education on Genghis Khan.  Isn't it amazing how the knowledge flows when the trolls are gone.

Science Avenger

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2008,23:32   

Jacob, let me tell you, you ARE being rude.  You are rude in the same way a child with no knowledge of the game might burst onto a championship chess match and demand the players explain why they defend the King when the Queen is clearly superior.

I personally suspect you are stalling on pursuing your so-called mathematical proof because you fear some of us with some actual knowledge of math are going to tear you to shreds.  Well, that's the one thing you got right, congrats.

As it is, this is the most posts I've ever seen someone take to make a point.  Just make it already, and stop wasting everyone's time.  Wasting people's time is rude too you know, so get on with it or else the moderators should make YOU go away.

jacob

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2008,23:32   

<blockquote>
<strong>skyotter:</strong>

<blockquote>

<b>Jacob:</b>

I feel I have the right not to be treated abusively.</blockquote>

well, you don't.  surprise!  that "right" doesn't actually exist in the real world


so i hope you've learned at least one thing today
</blockquote>

I disagree. I can remove my self from situations where people are rude. This type of behaviour I see here would not be allowed in a debate on a college campus. The moderator would throught the violators off the stage.

Science Avenger

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2008,23:32   

Use any numbers that have been posted here.  It won't matter.

Science Avenger

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2008,23:32   

In a college debate Jacob you would be tossed out on your ass for being a pompous, time-wasting know-nothing prick.

Oooo, I talked nasty to you.  Time to remove yourself from the situation.  Or gosh, you could always get on with making your fucking case.  But we both know why you won't, don't we?  You'll get shredded that's why.  Every other point you've made here is drenched in ignorance and oversimplification.  I see no reason to expect better.

Prove me wrong. Dick.

jacob

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2008,23:32   

<blockquote>
<strong>Science Avenger:</strong>


In a college debate Jacob you would be tossed out on your ass for being a pompous, time-wasting know-nothing prick.

Oooo, I talked nasty to you.  Time to remove yourself from the situation.  Or gosh, you could always get on with making your fucking case.  But we both know why you won't, don't we?  You'll get shredded that's why.  Every other point you've made here is drenched in ignorance and oversimplification.  I see no reason to expect better.

Prove me wrong. Dick.
</blockquote>

You are vulgar and rude and certainly that language would not be tolerate and should not be tolerated here. It brings the down the level of discussion to bar room brawl gutter levels where I think you should really go to now. Thank You. Go away.

Science Avenger

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2008,23:32   

GET ON WITH IT!

jacob

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2008,23:32   

<blockquote>
<strong>Science Avenger:</strong>


GET ON WITH IT!
</blockquote>

You do not belong in polite society. Go Away!

Science Avenger

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2008,23:32   

Laughable coming from the supreme intellect that just checked whether we all understand how to divide by 10.  That's bringing it down to, what, a third grade level.  That the best you got you bloviating bunghole?

Science Avenger

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 19 2008,23:32   

I do just fine in polite society, thank you.  But with pompous know-nothing mental midgets, I give them exactly the respect they deserve.  

Keep dancing and avoiding the point.  You make my case with every dodge.

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