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OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: June 22 2012,19:09   

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Quote (Dr. Jammer @ June 22 2012,14:32)
Are we still pretending that there's but a single definition of evolution, which is synonymous with Neo-Darwinism? Surely not.

The whole bait-and-switch definition game no longer works, fellas. Get some new trickery, please.

Go find every biology textbook you can and type of the definitions of evolution that you find.

Want to bet what you get?

Or, are you saying that because evolution is an observed fact AND a theory that describes the behavior of systems of reproducing organisms that we have multiple definitions of evolution?

Let me ask this, what is the one definition of ID?  Why does Behe say it mechanistic and Demsbki say that it isn't mechanistic?  Why do some people say that the designer did and does everything, while other say that the designer only designs things we aren't sure how came about?  Why do some say design only applies to life and others say it applies to everything, including the formation of the universe?

Why don't you go argue with your own side about what the real definition of ID is?

BTW: Even if you totally disprove evolution, right here, right now... it doesn't mean that ID is right.  Only positive supporting evidence can do that.  Got any?

edit to add this...

What do you make of this quote Jammer?

lastyearon goes for a Friday bannination.

         
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Don’t feel too bad, Jerad. I think you are making a valiant effort to clarify things, to understand where you and UPB differ, to understand what exactly Intelligent Design means. But, you know what they say… "Never ask for clarification from a man whose soul depends on not being clear."

So, then, "every biology textbook" is in on the bait-and-switch tactic as well? I surely hope not, lest I'll be forced to write to some politicians and book publishers to see that it's rectified.

Anyway...

Evolution means that life changes over time. It doesn't answer the questions of to what extent and via what means. Those are additional questions that various branches of evolution attempt to answer; Darwinian evolution, front-loaded evolution, etc.

In saying that she's not "anti-evolution," the lovely Ms. Ftk is saying that she's not anti-life-changes-over-time (nor am I). However, that doesn't mean she's not anti-Darwinian evolution; she may or may not be (I am).

One can reject certain proposed explanations of how life evolved without rejecting the notion that it did evolve.

Likewise, a person can reject the notion that Neil Armstrong traveled to the moon on a bicycle (how) without rejecting the notion that Neil Armstrong did travel to the moon.

Life changed over time. <== Broad claim
Life changed over time via x. <== More specific claim; possible to reject without rejecting the broader claim.

Neil Armstrong traveled to the moon. <== Broad claim
Neil Armstrong traveled to the moon via x <== More specific claim; possible to reject without rejecting the broader claim.

Get it?

God, I feel like I'm trying to teach a group of mentally challenged third-graders here.

So, then you need to disprove the via.

Darwinian evolution happened via mutation and natural selection.

Begin your disproof.  I'll be waiting.

While, you're working on that, I'd like to see this massive amount of evidence that you keep claiming to have seen.  Or is da sooper secret?

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N.Wells



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(Permalink) Posted: June 23 2012,11:02   

Quote (Ftk @ June 21 2012,16:31)
Career choice is another matter.  He’s very gifted in the field of art, winning several awards in school and community (school of 1700 students), being requested by the school to design shirts and other things that come up.  He has a lot of engineers and artists on his Dad’s side...teachers on my side.  He’s working for a bronze sculptor this summer doing odds and ends around his studio, but has access to learning from his as well.

His LOVE is 3D animation/imaging.  He is obsessed with it, and already spends hours and hours and hours learning various graphics computer applications and designing things on his own.  He’d like a career in designing for computer games/programs/animation, etc.  BUT, he’s also aware that those jobs are extremely hard to come by, and he’s watched many people over the last few years not able to find jobs in the fields they went to college for due to the poor economy.  He’s also aware that art is the first field to suffer when the economy is poor.  

.......

Also, he’d really like to do this in a financially feasible way.  He’s been told by *many* people to attend a junior college near us that supposedly is very good at transferring to all major universities.  He could stay at home to save even more money that first year or two.  He’s worried he’ll miss out on something he wants to take early on, but as I’ve assured him, he can always take anything he wants or needs for his major when he moves on to a 4 year college to finish his degree.  

I'm late to the game, but I'll add my $0.02 if Ftk is still listening.

As you and your son have realized, there are no guarantees regarding career choices and success.  Every career option is potentially under downward pressure due to the ability of employers to outsource work to third-world countries or to get it done via ever-more amazing computer programs.  Nonetheless, there's plenty of opportunities, and the best recipe for success remains the same as always:
-  First, find something you love or can find pride in, so that work never seems like work and so that you are always motivated to put in more work than the next guy.  
- Second, find something that you have a knack for.  (Whatever you want to do, there's a gazillion other people out there with more experience, more qualifications, and better talent than you, so the higher up you start, the better off you will be.  Even if you are one in a million, that means there are about 8000 people better than that.)  
- Third, look for some way to be unusual.  Develop an unusual combination of skills, for instance.  
- Fourth, work hard.  
- Fifth, develop connections.  
- Sixth, sell yourself - when your son gets his degree, he shouldn't just mail out resumes, but should go pound on doors, not take 'no' for an answer, push to see people as high up the food chain as possible, present an impressive portfolio, point out why he is qualified and what he could do for them, demonstrate that he's someone who won't give up easily, and point out how valuable that degree of irrational persistence is in an employee (especially as opposed to having him work for a competitor).

Your kid sounds motivated (obsession is great!), talented, and a hard worker, so right there he's ahead of a lot of his competition, which are all good indicators that it is worth the risks to enter a competitive field.  

I'm not sure of the value of a back-up plan per se (that's sort of like planning a mission to Mars, but planning simultaneously for the alternative of researching the deep ocean if the take-off doesn't go well).  However, my alternative recommendation in practice amounts to much the same thing.  A) Nothing in life goes as planned, so a background of learning how to think, how to learn, and how to be flexible will be invaluable, and B) having an unusual combination of skills is often valuable, as long as you find a useful way to combine them.  (Very generically, art and science, art and business, science and business, science and law often don't go together in one person, but can be valuable in combination: medicine and marching band would exemplify a less obviously valuable combination, but watch someone prove me wrong.)

With respect to college choice, this is important, but less critical than you think.  You are right about the 2-year college route, and picking up anything missed later.  However, the sooner he plans where he will transfer to, the sooner he can review the program requirements at the second institution, and design a nicely targeted and efficient course of study at the first place.  Transferring could easily cost an extra semester at the second place, due to missing a course and then not being able to fit it into his schedule immediately when he gets there, or because it is only taught every other semester, or the professor retired, or some such.  The very best option is likely to be small liberal arts colleges, though they are expensive and limited in terms of professorial expertise relative to larger universities: they give students small classes and personal attention, and they focus on undergraduate education.  At large universities, undergrads can lose out to grad students, research demands on professors, and so on.  Elite places inherently offer great connections, but the moment you get your first job the eliteness of your background fades nearly to irrelevance next to your actual job performance.  The most important thing, far outweighing everything else, is that what students get from a university is what they take from it, and most students don't take nearly as much as they could.  So, work hard; take the opportunity to prune bad habits and thought patterns and gain better ones; learn how to learn, how to express yourself, and how to push yourself; and push all the time to take maximum advantage of everything that the university has to offer, and you'll get more than your money's worth wherever you are.  If you are at a large university, push to get personal attention; if you are at a small place, push to broaden your experiences and options.  Basically, behave like you're  hungry and have half an hour at an all-you-can-eat buffet, with multiple different tables, each surrounded by dozens of people: figure out what you want, and push in and grab.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 23 2012,13:23   

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Final suggestion: If you go to university 1, you can still take summer classes at junior college for transfer.

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Ftk



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(Permalink) Posted: June 23 2012,18:14   

Thank you all so, so much. My son and I are going over all your comments, and it's been extremely helpful. He is a very hard worker and takes his education very seriously...much more than I ever did...lol.  I have no doubt he'll put all your suggestions to use. Thanks again.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 24 2012,11:00   

Quote (Ftk @ June 20 2012,19:54)
Totally off topic, but thought I'd just ask....

If there are any college professors reading this (Wesley, Dave, whomever), I need to get in touch with a really good career/college counselor.  

My oldest is headed off to college next year and he's discouraged at the moment about career paths.  He's talked to his high school counselors and teachers and really not getting the information he'd like.  He could go to one of the state colleges and ask there, I guess, but each college is usually specialized in certain career paths.  

Bleh...I don't even know where to begin, but if you know of someone from this forum who many not ever read this but would have some good advise, would you mind sharing his/her name and I'll send them a message.

I'm asking tons of people, and since you all consider yourselves so highly educated, I thought you might be able to throw me some advise.

Thanks

Don't forget to talk to your local librarian!

The best career path to take: become curious about a wide range of subjects. Focus on an interest, but understand that we must be adaptive to change.

The future is interdisciplinary. Silos (specialties) are being broken down. (My profession is an example: librarians and archivists have moved closer to IT professionals and business managers - and if I may say, social workers and career counselors - and away from processing and maintaining catalogs of books.)

Good people skills and curiosity are key, no matter what major he chooses. More and more people are creating their own jobs (I had to). Can he speak well? Speaking on the side makes extra money. Can he write? Try to publish. There is no such thing as the stable job with a stable employer for whom one works for decades and decades anymore.

It's scary, but he should not be discouraged.

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Ftk



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(Permalink) Posted: June 25 2012,20:24   

O.M.G....the kid and I are brainstorming and running through site after site of college scholarships.  Shoot me...it's enough to make your freaking head spin.  O.o

We have three Kansas college visits set up now, but he's thinking out of state school atm.  Found an outstanding website for schools he's interested in (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=285&t=748071), but if he were to get accepted by any of them, it wwoul cost a small fortune.  I need to just rob a bank.  I think it would be easier and certainly less time consuming than hunting down all these scholarships.

Pray for us people...even if you don't believe in a higher power...lol.

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Tracy P. Hamilton



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(Permalink) Posted: June 25 2012,20:59   

Quote (Ftk @ June 25 2012,20:24)
O.M.G....the kid and I are brainstorming and running through site after site of college scholarships.  Shoot me...it's enough to make your freaking head spin.  O.o

We have three Kansas college visits set up now, but he's thinking out of state school atm.  Found an outstanding website for schools he's interested in (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=285&t=748071), but if he were to get accepted by any of them, it wwoul cost a small fortune.  I need to just rob a bank.  I think it would be easier and certainly less time consuming than hunting down all these scholarships.

Pray for us people...even if you don't believe in a higher power...lol.

Start applying in Sept.  

Fill out FAFSA as soon as you have your taxes filled out.  Watch out for a site made to look just like the government's free website that has you fill out the FAFSA questions then asks for money.

Most scholarships that students receive  are offered through the university financial aid office.  Sometimes the  high school counselor decides who to put forward for some of them (particular qualifications, etc).

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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: June 25 2012,21:50   

Quote (Ftk @ June 25 2012,20:24)
O.M.G....the kid and I are brainstorming and running through site after site of college scholarships.  Shoot me...it's enough to make your freaking head spin.  O.o

We have three Kansas college visits set up now, but he's thinking out of state school atm.  Found an outstanding website for schools he's interested in (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=285&t=748071), but if he were to get accepted by any of them, it wwoul cost a small fortune.  I need to just rob a bank.  I think it would be easier and certainly less time consuming than hunting down all these scholarships.

Pray for us people...even if you don't believe in a higher power...lol.

You should consider colleges that give need-based aid.  There are @50 top schools that state that if you get in, you only have to pay what the FAFSA / College Board says you can afford to pay.  

So that's how a lot of kids whose parents are not well-off can afford to go to Harvard, Princeton, MIT, Norhtwestern etc.  There is no way scholarships were going to add up to enough for my kids to go to a top school, so need-based aid was the solution.

Example:  $60,000 per year for tuition and room & board.  FAFSA says you can afford $5,000, so Harvard or CalTech picks up $55,000.  Of course that means your kid has to do pretty darned well in the most difficult classes in school, test strong and have some decent ECs.

It can be done.  No praying required.  

BTW - You could check out College Confidential.com - a site devoted to answering your questions about getting into college.

Edited by J-Dog on June 25 2012,21:53

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(Permalink) Posted: June 26 2012,17:28   

Does anyone recall the "Uncle" stories written by J.P.Martin and illustrated by Quentin Blake?  I have most of the series on my 'childhood' shelf, but I just can't justify spending big bucks to buy the two long out-of-print titles that I am missing :-(

Uncle is a rich elephant who lives in a nice shiny castle called Homeward and, even though he has a large ego, he is a generally honest chap and treats his friends and tenants well.  

His life is spoiled only by the horrible view across his moat - of a small fort called "Badfort" in which lives Beaver Hateman (a vile, sackcloth-wearing, angry and hateful creature) and his cronies.  The Badfort inhabitants continually plan to bring Uncle down and to con the inhabitants of Homeward out of their money and goods using some foul scheme or other.

Anyway - to the point.  Badfort has a newspaper: The Badfort News.  The chief reporter on the newspaper is Hitmouse, a loathsome, dwarfish creature who likes nothing better than to stick skewers he carries on his person into Uncle when given the chance (an apt metaphor, I believe).  

The Badfort News is the epitome of the low-life tabloid newspaper ... the truth is consistently ignored in favour of a spin on a story that attacks Uncle and his friends with vitriol, just because he is Uncle, because he is rich and because he has everything that the Badfort crowd do not.

I think you can see where I am going with this.  It came to me today ...

Homeward is "The Scientific Establishment", Uncle is Charles Darwin/Richard Dawkins, Badfort is "The Intelligent Design Movement", The Badfort News is Uncommon Descent and Hitmouse is O'Leary.

It's uncanny.

Pictures of Hitmouse available on "Look Inside" here: Uncle

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(Permalink) Posted: June 27 2012,19:22   

Quote (Ftk @ June 25 2012,20:24)
O.M.G....the kid and I are brainstorming and running through site after site of college scholarships.  Shoot me...it's enough to make your freaking head spin.  O.o

We have three Kansas college visits set up now, but he's thinking out of state school atm.  Found an outstanding website for schools he's interested in (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=285&t=748071), but if he were to get accepted by any of them, it wwoul cost a small fortune.  I need to just rob a bank.  I think it would be easier and certainly less time consuming than hunting down all these scholarships.

Pray for us people...even if you don't believe in a higher power...lol.

Pray for you to rob a bank? ;)

Gone are the days when waitroning paid at least a quarter of my schooling, but can he also find work-study? Loans are a good option if you don't go nuts with them - my parents took them out, I paid them back!

I second the FAFSA suggestion. And don't let the cost scare him away from living on campus out of state. I've done that, also lived in an apt while going to school, lived in my own house while attending night/weekend classes, and lived with my folks for a while while going to night school - nothing substitutes for that on-campus experience.

I do not recommend the Art Institutes. Stay away from for-profits - you don't know how many of my patrons are in debt with a useless degree from one of these diploma mills. They are not the same as "private" colleges. The Art Institutes is being sued by the Justice Department for being deceptive in their recruiting practices. Research, research, and talk to teachers and your local librarians!

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oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: June 30 2012,05:26   

I just made a new web-app.

http://dreamerfrom100yearsago.appspot.com/....pot.com

Takes text from a old dream interpretation book and lets you search it.

All bunk of course, just an exercise in programming.

Anybody have any ideas for (google) cloud applications?

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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(Permalink) Posted: June 30 2012,12:06   

Well, I spent my morning programming a C# application for Windows Mobile 5 to periodically record audio.

I was aiming to set up a data logger using the Raspberry Pi board I've got, but I've run into enough problems that I decided to look at another approach.

The idea is to log acoustic data underwater to get snapping shrimp snaps. Snapping shrimp are small crustacean predators who use a specialized claw to generate cavitation events that stun or kill their prey. Cavitation events are loud, and snapping shrimp populations are large, so a major component of the acoustic background in tropical to semi-tropical waters where there is structure is snapping shrimp snaps. These various elements come together to make snapping shrimp an excellent indicator species. The acoustic record can be used as an indicator of population health for snapping shrimp, and since snapping shrimp are metazoan predators, they indicate the health of the ecosystem.

The state of Florida has a Harmful Algal Bloom (HAB) program where monitoring stations are scattered around places. The stations have power, some have internet, and there's space for more instruments to be loaded aboard. The regular schedule of sampling of other instruments is four times an hour. So I'm looking to sample one minute of acoustic data on each quarter hour, so my data can be correlated with the data generated by the other instruments.

The Raspberry Pi looked pretty promising as a data logging platform. It comes with an SD card slot, has an Ethernet port, and allows expansion via USB. There are three things that are holding me back on that: stable power, USB audio compatibility, and time synchronization. Getting the RasPi to power on from a cold start is a piece of cake. Getting it to reboot with "sudo shutdown -r now" is not reliable. This is likely a power interaction between my power source and the USB hub(s) (I've tried two so far). The recommended low-cost USB audio interface for Linux is a Behringer UCA202. Alsa on the RasPi, though, doesn't think it has a capture device. The RasPi doesn't have an RTC. This isn't a problem with an Ethernet connection to the internet, but it is a problem if there is no connection when the RasPi boots. I've tried setting up GPSD with NTP to fill in when there is no network connection, but with negative results so far.

That brings me to my alternative plan. Back in 2005, Diane and I had to hurriedly design an autonomous acoustic recording system with COTS parts in order to deploy in three weeks for a field season in Wyoming. We settled on using Pocket PC devices with Core Audio's PDAudio sound cards and A/D devices. I rigged regulated power supplies that ran off motorcycle batteries so that each unit only had to be serviced every couple of days to swap batteries and memory cards.

Since I've gotten my Android phone, I haven't been using my Dell Axim X50v PDA much. I've done ad hoc recordings with the X50v before dropping a hydrophone over a seawall or overpass, and it's done OK. So I started looking at audio programming for Windows Mobile devices. It was a bit tougher than it strictly needed to be. The declining market share for Windows CE/Pocket PC/Windows Mobile means that application development goes through Visual Studio 2008, not the latest development tools. (I did install SharpDevelop, but dropped that for VS2008). Audio support for Windows Mobile looks pretty minimal. There's an interface based on the Platform Invoke Library (PIL) provided by Microsoft, and there's the OpenNETCF library that wraps the PIL. I tried OpenNETCF because it looked simpler to implement, but I ended up with memory leaks. Using PIL directly gave me success this morning, and now I'm just letting the application record one minute of audio every five minutes as a test. The system memory report under Settings is showing stable usage of memory so far. I'm aiming to deploy the system where it will only be serviced every two weeks, so I really need to watch out for long-term problems. So far, though, it looks like I should be able to finish up with power supply issues and the acoustic gear side of things and get it installed by the time the next HAB station gets deployed. And it fits on the budget I've got, which is pretty close to nothing at all.

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rhmc



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(Permalink) Posted: June 30 2012,13:10   

that's cool.   we occasionally net up mantis shrimp and i've heard they can lay a finger open.  
nickname for them here is "thumb buster".

i is berry cautious around them but, as a true redneck, i can tell you that they taste a lot like crawdads.  :)

  
oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: June 30 2012,13:35   

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ June 30 2012,12:06)
Well, I spent my morning programming a C# application for Windows Mobile 5 to periodically record audio.

I've actually been enjoying working with a high level language, python, much more so then I ever did with C, C++. And although I've got a Pi on the way myself I've yet to get down and dirty at the hardware level. All to come!

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The stations have power, some have internet, and there's space for more instruments to be loaded aboard. The regular schedule of sampling of other instruments is four times an hour. So I'm looking to sample one minute of acoustic data on each quarter hour, so my data can be correlated with the data generated by the other instruments.


Well, you might be interested in using some of Google's infrastructure. For example, they offer a 5.00 GBytes storage limit in their free tier of service on app engine that can be used to store binary data of arbitrary size sent via standard http channels. That's in addition to a whole other group of free quotas.

https://appengine.google.com/....gle....gle.com

I'm fairly well into it now and have done most things apart from mapreduce etc, if there is something that might help then perhaps I can knock something up - something like

Receive and store data+metadata via http
Download/browse data+metadata via http

Would be quite straightforward to build - it's just a http nterface to the blob store really.

The only real downer is the cold start - up to 6 seconds to boot your instance, but that can be overcome with cron jobs keeping it going or other tricks.

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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Wesley R. Elsberry



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(Permalink) Posted: June 30 2012,16:33   

Some stations have internet, and some don't. If I use the WM PDA, I need WiFi to connect, but for RasPi I would need an ethernet cable connection. So for the internet-connected stations, using the Google app engine to stage incoming data and perhaps do some processing on it would be feasible. But I can't make it an essential step in the system, since some places won't be able to use it. And the my first prototype is, I believe, going where internet does not.

Does Google App Engine offer Numpy and Scipy in the modules that can be used?

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oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: June 30 2012,17:31   

numpy is available, but Scipy is not.

Since python 2.7 support was added many more libraries have become available:

https://developers.google.com/appengi....aries27

And IIRC anything in pure python is importable anyway.  

https://developers.google.com/appengi....braries

They are adding support for more all the time.


I suppose even though the stations do not all use the internet GAE might still be useful to help get the data from the offline system into the cloud/where you need it. I really like GAE as it does so much of the work for you for HTTP etc so you can build a "data receiver" app really quickly and with the support of high uptime/availability and scalability.

So perhaps it's just to browse to the data on the memory card from a "browse to file" website on a PC to initiate the upload, wipe the card and repeat.

Lots of possibilities. Blobstore is really simple to use, but you have to index them as they go in as there is no metadata saved.
https://developers.google.com/appengi....obstore

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(Permalink) Posted: June 30 2012,22:58   

Shame about the RasPi as it seems perfect for these kinds of operations. I suppose there will be hacked version out soon enough

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 30 2012,23:39   

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Shame about the RasPi as it seems perfect for these kinds of operations. I suppose there will be hacked version out soon enough

I think the RasPi will prove to be capable of these things, but the software and accessory hardware still needs development at this point. I need something a bit faster than I think that process will go. The only thing that I listed that I think still might be a serious problem later is the power issue.

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OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: July 01 2012,10:52   

Random Venting... or not so random.

My mom is going to the serious doctor on Tuesday.

About 3 months ago, she had cataract surgery.  This was the last of the two eyes for surgery and it went very well.  She could see (better than me without my glasses) and even came to see us for a week.

Then about six weeks ago, she complained about blurry vision and a blob.  The eye doctor said it was just a protein build up in the eyeball and should settle out in a few days or weeks.  

Two weeks later, she had a large blob right in the center of her vision.  It almost caused her to have a car accident as she swerved to avoid this big blob that was only in her eye.  She went back to her local eye doc and they made an appointment for a specialist who came into their office once every two weeks.

He took a look and used a laser to seal a miniscule hole in the retina of her eye.  He said, that the blob was really a blood clot and it should reduce over time and settle out of her vision.  She reported that she could see much better, except for this big blob.

A week later, her vision became blurry again and the blob got bigger.  Fortunately, it was about time for the visiting specialist to come back.  That was Thursday.

He took one look and made an appointment for her this coming Tuesday at the big, serious hospital.  He's going to have to remove the cornea, extract the blood clot and then figure out what's wrong.  At that time (hopefully) he will be able to effect repairs.  

The good news is that there are no symptoms of a detached retina.  Bad news, even if the surgery goes perfectly, it could seriously hamper her vision in the future.

We were all planning on spending this summer moving her to live with us, but she can't do any work around her house and really doesn't want to.  

If she loses her vision, then it will radically alter our plans for living arrangements.  Heck, even if she doesn't lose her vision, she probably won't feel comfortable living upstairs.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 01 2012,12:26   

Quote (OgreMkV @ July 01 2012,08:52)
Random Venting... or not so random.

My mom is going to the serious doctor on Tuesday.

About 3 months ago, she had cataract surgery.  This was the last of the two eyes for surgery and it went very well.  She could see (better than me without my glasses) and even came to see us for a week.

Then about six weeks ago, she complained about blurry vision and a blob.  The eye doctor said it was just a protein build up in the eyeball and should settle out in a few days or weeks.  

Two weeks later, she had a large blob right in the center of her vision.  It almost caused her to have a car accident as she swerved to avoid this big blob that was only in her eye.  She went back to her local eye doc and they made an appointment for a specialist who came into their office once every two weeks.

He took a look and used a laser to seal a miniscule hole in the retina of her eye.  He said, that the blob was really a blood clot and it should reduce over time and settle out of her vision.  She reported that she could see much better, except for this big blob.

A week later, her vision became blurry again and the blob got bigger.  Fortunately, it was about time for the visiting specialist to come back.  That was Thursday.

He took one look and made an appointment for her this coming Tuesday at the big, serious hospital.  He's going to have to remove the cornea, extract the blood clot and then figure out what's wrong.  At that time (hopefully) he will be able to effect repairs.  

The good news is that there are no symptoms of a detached retina.  Bad news, even if the surgery goes perfectly, it could seriously hamper her vision in the future.

We were all planning on spending this summer moving her to live with us, but she can't do any work around her house and really doesn't want to.  

If she loses her vision, then it will radically alter our plans for living arrangements.  Heck, even if she doesn't lose her vision, she probably won't feel comfortable living upstairs.

That's rough, Ogre. Hope it turns out okay.

I've got an 84-year-old mom who lives 3 hours away, and is getting more wobbly and brittle all the time.  She should move closer to us, but, like most of that generation, is too stubborn to leave the place she and dad had for years 'n' years.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 01 2012,12:39   

Ogre, I'm sorry about your mother. And I know how you must feel. When my parents became weak and their eyesight deteriorated I had to fly in each weekend for half a year until they allowed me to organise help.

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OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: July 01 2012,13:39   

Quote (fnxtr @ July 01 2012,12:26)
Quote (OgreMkV @ July 01 2012,08:52)
Random Venting... or not so random.

My mom is going to the serious doctor on Tuesday.

About 3 months ago, she had cataract surgery.  This was the last of the two eyes for surgery and it went very well.  She could see (better than me without my glasses) and even came to see us for a week.

Then about six weeks ago, she complained about blurry vision and a blob.  The eye doctor said it was just a protein build up in the eyeball and should settle out in a few days or weeks.  

Two weeks later, she had a large blob right in the center of her vision.  It almost caused her to have a car accident as she swerved to avoid this big blob that was only in her eye.  She went back to her local eye doc and they made an appointment for a specialist who came into their office once every two weeks.

He took a look and used a laser to seal a miniscule hole in the retina of her eye.  He said, that the blob was really a blood clot and it should reduce over time and settle out of her vision.  She reported that she could see much better, except for this big blob.

A week later, her vision became blurry again and the blob got bigger.  Fortunately, it was about time for the visiting specialist to come back.  That was Thursday.

He took one look and made an appointment for her this coming Tuesday at the big, serious hospital.  He's going to have to remove the cornea, extract the blood clot and then figure out what's wrong.  At that time (hopefully) he will be able to effect repairs.  

The good news is that there are no symptoms of a detached retina.  Bad news, even if the surgery goes perfectly, it could seriously hamper her vision in the future.

We were all planning on spending this summer moving her to live with us, but she can't do any work around her house and really doesn't want to.  

If she loses her vision, then it will radically alter our plans for living arrangements.  Heck, even if she doesn't lose her vision, she probably won't feel comfortable living upstairs.

That's rough, Ogre. Hope it turns out okay.

I've got an 84-year-old mom who lives 3 hours away, and is getting more wobbly and brittle all the time.  She should move closer to us, but, like most of that generation, is too stubborn to leave the place she and dad had for years 'n' years.

Yep, I'm not sure what scares my mom more.  Losing vision in one eye or leaving the home she's lived in for almost 50 years.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 02 2012,22:18   

Harumph! Apparently, when Nat Geo migrated all the blogs from Science Blogs they included all the blogs of those who have left Science Blogs as well. All except mine that is  :angry:

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(Permalink) Posted: July 03 2012,10:02   

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Harumph! Apparently, when Nat Geo migrated all the blogs from Science Blogs they included all the blogs of those who have left Science Blogs as well. All except mine that is  :angry:

Perhaps yours was just too boring to bother with? :ducks:

In the migration they also seem to have dropped or lost comments on some of the older popular blogs. Pharyngula comes to mind.

I just checked http://scienceblogs.com/pharyng....ryngula and while there are comments enabled, there are very few (looks more like UD.) I guess hardly anyone reads Pharyngula on SB any more and all commenters have moved to the new FtB site. Many of the SB blogs seem to be like that though ERV seems to still get some.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 03 2012,14:35   

Mom update.

The clot is removed and several leaky blood vessels were sealed.

No indications of retinal damage or failure.  She shouldn't even have any blind spots.

yay

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(Permalink) Posted: July 03 2012,14:43   

Quote (OgreMkV @ July 03 2012,14:35)
Mom update.

The clot is removed and several leaky blood vessels were sealed.

No indications of retinal damage or failure.  She shouldn't even have any blind spots.

yay

Good news indeed! Were you with her during these days?

She must be so relieved to be able to cope now. Moving elsewhere would have been terrible; it's not only the house but the neighbourhood which is so important - people you have seen grow up, shop owners who greet you with your name, when you read the local news you know what it's all about ... it is incredibly damaging to be uprooted.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 03 2012,15:10   

Quote (Kattarina98 @ July 03 2012,14:43)
Quote (OgreMkV @ July 03 2012,14:35)
Mom update.

The clot is removed and several leaky blood vessels were sealed.

No indications of retinal damage or failure.  She shouldn't even have any blind spots.

yay

Good news indeed! Were you with her during these days?

She must be so relieved to be able to cope now. Moving elsewhere would have been terrible; it's not only the house but the neighbourhood which is so important - people you have seen grow up, shop owners who greet you with your name, when you read the local news you know what it's all about ... it is incredibly damaging to be uprooted.

Heh, she's not even moved yet.  Just thinking about it scares her.  Things like this are one reason we want her to move... to be closer to us.  She has no family anywhere nearby.

As for me, I had to send my wife to help.  I'm working from home and watching the boy.  I hated doing it, but we had some major deadlines and project issues going on I really had to deal with it myself.

Of course, I made sure that everyone knew I was choosing to work instead of take care of my mom and that it shouldn't be expected any time something comes up.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 03 2012,15:21   

Phew.

I'm glad it worked!

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(Permalink) Posted: July 03 2012,18:11   

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Phew.

I'm glad it worked!

Glass of Tesco plonk raised to yer Ma's optics.


ETA: An annuzzher wun to zha doc.

Nexsht, de nurshes.

*hic*

Wash dere an anaestheshiolomathingummy? Anaesthesmiololoma . . . .


zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Edited by Amadan on July 04 2012,00:20

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(Permalink) Posted: July 03 2012,19:17   

Quote (Amadan @ July 03 2012,18:11)
Quote (fnxtr @ July 03 2012,21:21)
Phew.

I'm glad it worked!

Glass of Tesco plonk raised to yer Ma's optics.


ETA: An annuzzher wun to zha doc.

Nexsht, de nurshes.

*hic*

Wash dere an anaestheshiolomathingummy? Anaesthesmiololoma . . . .


zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Now that's a Post of The Week!

Thank you.

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