Joined: Oct. 2005
|Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Jan. 15 2009,01:20)|
One of the most entertaining things about you is how you think whatever random bullshit happens to pop into your head is just as likely to be valid as real science that has thousands of person years of careful study behind it.
That attitude happens when someone figures that they know what the answer is supposed to look like, even if they have not the faintest clue of how to actually arrive at it.
I wouldn't put this in a normal thread, because of the general rule against insulting other commenters, but this is the BW, and Dan reminded me of something.
I'm a pretty easy going guy in real life. I try to avoid controversy and steer conversations in productive directions and away from things that get my blood up. For instance, my girlfriend hates unions. She's pretty moderate to liberal, has an art degree, etc, she just happened to pick that up from her GOP dad. I don't hate unions any more than I hate any other collective organization, like McDonalds, or FFA. Some are good, some are mediocre, some are bad. Whatever. So when I'm emailing friends an interesting link, if it's about unions, I leave her name off the list. It's a cost/benefit thing. I try to find ways to have productive conversations with whoever I happen to be dealing with, rather than just respond to the circumstances. It's something I learned after years of flying off the handle and getting into disputes that didn't benefit me at all. Nowadays, I could chat with the horoscope booth operator at a Young Earth Creationist convention and my blood pressure wouldn't rise a bit.
That said, there's one person in my life I can't do that with. This person brings the stupid so relentlessly that I can't have a decent conversation with them. Everything, everything instantly turns down Idiot Lane.
Me: You wanted bread. Here's some bread.
Them: This has High Fructose Corn Syrup in it.
Them: High Fructose Corn syrup causes obesity and diabetes and health problems. It's the real reason for the Castro embargo. Find something with regular sugar instead.
Me: Ugh, it's basically the same as regular sugar. About 50% fructose, 50% glucose.
Them: Why are you always trying to prove how smart you are?
Me: What? I was just trying to tell you something.
Them: You think you know everything in the world.
Me: When did I ever say that?
Them: You condescend to everyone in the world.
Me: uh...what? Huh?
Them: You must think everything you read on the internet is true. You probably even believe in the moon landings.
Me: (usually walking away at this point)
Every conversation goes like that. Usually winds up with allegations about how I'm not living in the real world because I'm programmed over "the internet" by the New York Times and/or the Clintons. Etc. You get the picture.
Funny thing about this person, and what really pegs their intellect level, is The Dumb Lie. The Dumb Lie is a lie that you could conceivably get away with, under different circumstances, which these aren't. So this person whips out The Dumb Lie on me. In the example above, it was 'you believe every word on the internet is true.' Now, that's a lie you could conceivably get away with under different circumstances. If this person was talking to someone else, who didn't know me much, and said, "Steve believes every word on the internet is true.", they'd have a chance of getting away with it. But what makes this not a lie, but a Dumb Lie, is the person is telling me, the world's foremost expert in what Steve Story believes about things on the internet, something that's not just wrong but ridiculously wrong about me. And that tells me this person's rhetoric is completely detached from any intelligent thought processes.
So where I see Daniel do this, one of many examples of where Daniel pulls out The Dumb Lie, is when he says something like "Most scientists are empty headed sheep."* We know that Daniel doesn't know any scientists. We know there's several dozen people here with science degrees, who collectively know hundreds of scientists. So a guy who doesn't know anything about scientists, is trying to tell people who do, something obviously wrong about scientists. And that makes it not just a lie, but a Dumb Lie.
(* FWIW, it's so dumb I suspect Dan is deliberately trolling for reactions)