OgreMkV
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Quote (Kris @ Jan. 25 2011,10:55) | Quote (OgreMkV @ Jan. 25 2011,07:19) | You're absolutely right. Neither myself, nor most of the people I know, want to hear ignorance being spewed forth as if it was divine inspiration.
We don't like to be called hypocrites by someone who can't prove that it is the case.*
We don't like to have thousands of scientists and researchers who have devoted their lifes to learning and knowledge be told that they can't do their work anymore by a 2-bit internet troll.
So, you are right.
I'll note that these types of things are not based on us however, Kris. They are based on you.
If you want to really affect change, then meeting people halfway, being tactful, polite, and arguing with logic and evidence is the best way to go.
And no, don't start squealing about how mean we are to you. This is 100% about how you act. You could rise above all this and present your arguments, present your evidence and if we don't like it, then you can go away with pride that you tried your best.
Or, you could act like a whiny 4-year-old (I know, I have one) and demand things for no reason, respond with vile accusations with no foundation, perform acts that are not polite in civil discussion and potentially illegal, and just generally be a jerk.
How you act is up to you. There is nothing that we can do to change that. You could take the high road, but you haven't yet. I suspect it's because you have no argument, you just want to whine. So far, you have doing nothing to show my assumptions about you are false.
*No, your whining about it doesn't mean we actually are. There's a big difference between what YOU think and reality. |
You keep proving my point about what hypocrites you are.
You said: "If you want to really affect change, then meeting people halfway, being tactful, polite, and arguing with logic and evidence is the best way to go."
You might want to actually do that then. Most of the people on this site, Panda's Thumb, Pharyngula, etc., are about as far from that as it's possible to be.
You said; "This is 100% about how you act."
Actually, it's 100% about how you and most others here act, and many of you have been doing it for years. Your words are here for anyone to see ya know, whether they ever respond to you or not. Remember what I said about a billboard in your front yard?
You said: "You could take the high road, but you haven't yet. I suspect it's because you have no argument, you just want to whine. So far, you have doing nothing to show my assumptions about you are false."
Right back at you.
You said: "There's a big difference between what YOU think and reality."
Right back at you.
You said: "We don't like to have thousands of scientists and researchers who have devoted their lifes to learning and knowledge be told that they can't do their work anymore by a 2-bit internet troll."
Where did I say or even imply that scientists can't do their work anymore?
You said: "How you act is up to you."
Right back at you.
You said: "You could rise above all this and present your arguments, present your evidence and if we don't like it, then you can go away with pride that you tried your best."
Well, you could rise above all this and present your arguments, present your evidence and if the religious zealots don't like it, then you can go away with pride that you tried your best.
By the way, my pride is perfectly intact, no matter what happens here. |
No, Kris. It is about you. Please, go to the search box and hit my username... read every post I've ever made.
Then compare them to the posts you have made.
no nevermind.
You can't even read in that I told you it wasn't about us, it was about you being a whiny baby with no evidence.
Again, hypocrisy is a dangerous term, I suggest you retract it since you cannot show it.
Anyway, I'm done too until you actually start talking about science, which, considering the response to the ONLY CHANCE YOU HAVE TO CHANGE HOW WE ACT won't ever happen.
I'll try one more time. We act the way toward that we do, because you are causing it. Everyone here has told you that if you act like an adult with reasoned arguments, then we can talk just fine. You bring incorrect arguments, demands, and spewing crap like you, then that's what you get.
If you can't understand that, then I suggest a return in elementary school until you figure it out.
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