Stephen Elliott
Posts: 1776 Joined: Oct. 2005
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Quote (Joe G @ April 03 2010,08:11) | Quote (Stephen Elliott @ Mar. 13 2010,01:10) | Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 11 2010,08:23) | Quote (Stephen Elliott @ Mar. 06 2010,13:00) | Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 02 2010,07:57) | So just how can we test the premise that the bacterial flagellum- or any biological structure- "evolved" via an accumulation of genetic accidents?
Or are you clowns going to finally admit that your position is non-testable? |
How can we test the IDea that a designer did it? |
It's called reducibility- that is finding out what it is reducible to- ie finding out what it takes to get the thing in question.
And right now it appears to take quite a bit of agency involvement just to get the building blocks living organisms require. |
Which agency? What did it/they do? When was it done? What tools where used?
Or do you just want to claim "gee whizz, this is darn complicated, God did it! "? That argument has been used before, it once explained things such as weather, volcanoes, earthquakes, stellar movements etc. It did not advance our understanding then, why would it help now?
BTW, what was it you wanted to teach in a ID class? The stuff that would destroy current biology/evolutionary thought/opinion. Or is it a secret? |
What are you going to teach in evolutionary class?
Hell you can't even demonstrate the transformations required are even possible.
Can evolution be quantified?
IOW is there a way to measure it?
Can we measure how many mutations it takes to "evolve" a whale from a land animal?
No, then how can it be considered science? |
I am starting to think that you are as thick as a whale sandwich. You made some claims, I asked you to expand upon them and you just retort with nonsense. But hey-ho, I will attempt to answer your questions; I doubt that you will reciprocate.
What would I teach in an evolutionary class? That lifeforms are related, that species group into nested hierarchies etc.
Can evolution be quantified? That would depend on the specific example, some things can, such as relational closeness of species, genome size or time lines etc.
Can we measure how many mutations it takes to evolve a whale from a land animal? I do not know, do you?
How can it be considered science? Assuming you still mean evolution. Because it is based upon evidence, it has been tested, it makes accurate predictions, it explains the diversity of life and makes a good argument about why animal testing of human medicine makes sense (amongst others).
I bet you do not return the courtesy I have shown you. Yet you made the original claim. Meanwhile you think that you inhabit the moral high-ground because you believe in something that you have no evidence for.
Well done!
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