coldfirephoenix
Posts: 62 Joined: Sep. 2017
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Quote (GaryGaulin @ Oct. 04 2017,21:31) | Quote (coldfirephoenix @ Oct. 04 2017,17:27) | What exactly is the difference between an intelligent cause, purposefully directing efforts towards "certain features of the universe and of living things"; and an intelligent designer, purposefully directing efforts towards "certain features of the universe and of living things" |
For us to make sense of the purpose of your question you will first need to explain why you believe that this statement from the premise: Quote | certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause |
is exactly equal to this statement that you fabricated by switching words around: Quote | intelligent cause, purposefully directing efforts towards "certain features of the universe and of living things" |
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Yeah, you are not weaseling out of this this easily. I will gladly show you how to answer a question, which is surprisingly easy, if you actually know what you are talking about...(Hence why you spent your last 6 posts avoiding to give an answer)
I'll go through my sentence, and reference exactly where I got what I wrote from your dribble.
Quote | an intelligent cause, purposefully directing efforts towards "certain features of the universe and of living things" |
Directly taken from you.
Quote | an intelligent cause, purposefully directing efforts towards "certain features of the universe and of living things" |
You contrast your "intelligent cause" with an "undirected process such as natural selection". This implies that the intelligent cause is directed towards the goal of achieving those undefined feature, as opposed to an undirected process, such as natural selection. You never bothered to define HOW the intelligent cause is doing that, so I left it at "directing efforts towards", which is vague enough to encompass whatever you would like to fill in there. The "purposeful" is by definition necessarily correct. You can't have a directed process by an intelligence that is NOT on purpose, if it was just an accidental effect it would not be directed.
Quote | an intelligent cause, purposefully directing efforts towards "certain features of the universe and of living things" |
Again, directly taken from your gibberish, to describe what it is the intelligence is causing.
As for the other part, with the "designer": THIS is what you are supposed to differentiate from your intelligent cause! That is the question! This has literally no connection to moving the goalposts! It's like you use words you hear randomly, to try and sound smarter!
Well then, now that we got that out of the way, I repeat the question for the fifth time:
What exactly is the difference between an intelligent cause, purposefully directing efforts towards "certain features of the universe and of living things"; and an intelligent designer, purposefully directing efforts towards "certain features of the universe and of living things". Where do intelligent cause and intelligent designer differ?
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