RumraketR
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Quote (OgreMkV @ Feb. 10 2016,18:22) | |
Quote (Otangelo @ Feb. 10 2016,17:57) | Not only i can't understand it. The whole scientific community can't. |
I can. The whole community of evolutionary biology understands it.
Quote (Otangelo @ Feb. 10 2016,17:57) | For obvious reasons. The cell is irreducible complex. |
It is an observational fact that irreducibly complex systems routinely evolve.
If there were no irreducibly complex systems in existence, then the theory of evolution would be false, because they are unambigously predicted to result from the evolutionary process. We even know HOW IC systems evolve. They start by NOT being indispensible, but become gradually incorporated into systems and structures that were themselves ALSO once upon a time, dispensible, but have since become indispensible by the same process.
Quote (Otangelo @ Feb. 10 2016,17:57) | If even one protein, like topoisomerase is missing, the cell dies. |
This is actually false as Larry Moran PROVED to you on this blog with references.
Topoisomerases originated before genomes were so large that DNA winding was a lethal problem, and gradually co-evolved with the expansion of the winding stretches of the genome.
Quote (Otangelo @ Feb. 10 2016,17:57) | Abiogenesis is impossible to the extreme. |
Impossibility is a binary property. Something is either impossible or it is not. There is no degree of impossibility. Besides, there is absolutely zero evidence that abiogenesis is impossible and in fact there is evidence from physics that abiogenesis IS possible. According to statistical mechanics, living organisms are just another unlikely microstate of matter. Which means that, statistically speaking, they are still possible, just very very unlikely to arise spontaneously.
But unlikely =/= (that sign means "does not equal") impossible.
I'll repeat for the benefit of your subnormal encephalization: Unlikely =/= impossible Unlikely does not equal impossible Unlikely is not equal to impossible What is unlikely is not impossible
Abiogenesis by spontaneous generation is only unlikely, it is not impossible.
There are many options that are much much more likely than spontaneous generation. Likelihood depends on already occupied microstates. There could be a gradual progression of microstates from the unliving to the living states. This is strictly speaking also possible according to statistical mechanics.
All of science refutes the assertion that the origin of life is impossible. The origin of life is NOT impossible, the origin of life is possible.
Quote (Otangelo @ Feb. 10 2016,17:57) | But since a creator does not fit your wished world view without God |
I would like for there to be a god. I really wish God existed, because I don't want to die. I also want to meet again, long lost and much loved family members. I do not believe in God because I don't want to, I do not believe in God becuase the intellectual and evidential case for the existence of God is too weak to be believed rationally.
Quote (Otangelo @ Feb. 10 2016,17:57) | no matter what, the evidence is rejected and neglected. |
But you have not brought any evidence. All your arguments suffer form fundamental logical flaws and fallacies. The reason your are failing to produce God-belief in any of us is that your arguments and your evidence is insufficient to justify rational belief.
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