Russell
Posts: 1082 Joined: April 2005
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Quote | Surely, davy, surely after pages and pages of discussion on this, you're not going to pretend that Max's only evidence is "a broken GULO gene". | D'oh! You are, aren't you!? Quote | I'm sure he has many more reasons why he thinks he is related to chimps, but the item of discussion on this thread most recently is THIS piece of evidence. | Look. This is from his essay: Quote | 4.1. Shared unitary pseudogenes. Many of the unitary pseudogenes in humans described previously are shared with other primates. By "shared" I mean more than simply that the same gene is inactive in two different species, since that situation could result if the corresponding genes of the two species were inactivated separately by independent mutations. Instead, in all the examples I describe, the pseudogenes in primates carry many of the same crippling mutations found in the corresponding human pseudogenes. Since independent random mutations would not be likely to be identical in two different species, the identically mutated pseudogenes are strong evidence that the mutations occurred in a common ancestral species. | So you see, as has been pointed out to you about a thousand times, it's not "A broken GULO gene", it's the pattern of breaks in it, and the fact that said pattern reflects, and is predicted by, common descent. Now, despite this being pointed out to you about a thousand times, in several different ways, by several different people, with several different modes of emphasis, you come back yet again with: Quote | And let me say again ... I agree, it's a piece of evidence. But it argues equally well for both Common Descent and Common Design. Remember the Aerostar and the Fiesta? |
Remember my question in response? Quote | The question is not just "why is there similarity?" The question is "why is the pattern of similarities organized just like a phylogeny?" Presumably your common designer designed guinea pigs, rats, monkeys and humans, right? Why is there a nested hierarchy of similarities in DNA sequence? |
Quote | But just for the record, it's not just one or two "holdouts" - so far as I can tell no one here other than you thinks you "won" that little dust-up. | Quote | most of them probably do agree with me, but they wouldn't dare admit it and betray "the team." | Ah, the old "the lurkers support me in e-mail" gambit. Pretty sad. Heck. Why not just be done with it, and claim that Max privately agrees with you?
This, again, looks to me like classic projection. Defeated six ways to Sunday, afdave will be damned (perhaps literally) if he's going to let down Team Jesus by admitting it!
You know, you're not going to convince anyone reading this discussion that you have made the slightest dent in evolution in general, or Max's essay in particular. But you are making a very negative advertisement for your version religion. If I were in the market for one, I'd steer as clear of yours as possible.
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