stevestory
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Quote | 42 rvb8October 13, 2016 at 10:28 pm Catastrophism, in the thelogical sense, not the geological sense seems to underpin more and more posts here.
Is it me or is there a ‘lip-smackingly’ gleeful hope for a quick rapture, and now? Do I detect a Tertullian desire for a front row seet at ‘judgement’, when I and my fellow atheists are brought to accounts?
If so, grow up!
| Quote | 43 PindiOctober 13, 2016 at 10:58 pm rvb8, yes you are detecting that, but nothing new there. There have been these kind of raving lunatics desperately believing in, predicting, and hoping for the end of the world, ever since humans invented speech I would imagine. Certainly it is prevalent during the period of recorded history.
| Quote | 44 kairosfocusOctober 13, 2016 at 11:21 pm RVB8 and Pindi:
I suggest you address the concens here in the other thread before trying to namecall as lunatics and [implied, ignorant, stupid, insane or wicked Creationist] catastrophists:
http://www.uncommondescent.com.....ent-619145/....-619145
As in, oh those lunatics Mackinder, Spykman and co.
Not to mention, oh Guttmacher.
Then there is that ill-informed senile ignoramus, Mikhail Gorbachev.
For deep background, try Plato’s Parable of the Cave, from the perspective of looking at the apparatus of putting on the deceptive shadow shows confused for reality by those subjected to manipulation, then bring on his parable of the ship of state noticing how the navigator is treated by the mutineers. Then, read Ac 27 and see a live case of moneybags and technico manipulation and what it led to — as in, march of folly.
While you are at it, ponder for us on the history of the near collapse of Rome in the 200’s and the onward play-out to 476. Tell us, did the Barbarians who overthrew the Empire fight their way in all the way from the Rhine, bleeding all the way? Why, or why not. Explain also in a nutshell what happened over the next 1,000 years or so. Why.
Do tell us, and let us know why it is that we have been warned by so many that the lessons of sound history were bought with blood and tears so those who refuse to learn and heed them doom themselves to pay that ruinous price over and over again?
Put up, or stand exposed as irresponsible Internet trolls parroting dismissive and denigratory talking points rather than dealing with sobering geostrategic and civilisational issues on the table. In a context where we have a from the horse’s mouth admission of sobering degrees of manipulation of the “unaware and compliant” public.
KF | ha
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