Joe G
Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007
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Quote (Tony M Nyphot @ Mar. 06 2013,22:16) | Quote (OgreMkV @ Mar. 06 2013,12:16) | Quote (stevestory @ Mar. 06 2013,12:51) | While I am high at the moment, I'm just slightly high, not destroyed and sitting on the couch staring at the tv. So I don't think that's the reason I'm misunderstanding Joe. What is his point? Water isn't water, it's H2O? And ice isn't water?
WTF is going on here? |
A while back ago (someone has a link in their sig) I asked Joey a question about information. The question I asked was something like
"Given a box that is completely isolated from everything else. Given that the box is filed with one mol of water. What is the information content of the system?
Now, what is the change in the information content if the water is completely disassociated into hydrogen and oxygen? What is the change in information content if they recombine into water?"
Then I said, "Be careful, it's a trick question".
I would have given Joey credit for two different answers because I recognized that I was unclear. Water is at a lower energy state than the gases would be, so without an input of energy from outside the system, it couldn't disassociate. I would have also accepted the actual calculations of the change in entropy (in joules) of the system.
Joey's response was "But I get the trick question. There's no such thing as one molecule of water."
What followed was a hilarious discussion of Joe not understanding 9th grade chemistry (moles) and him continually trying to redefine water as only the liquid state of H2O.
I also mentioned that it would be possible to tell what state a single molecule would be by measuring the kinetic energy of the molecule, but he didn't get that either. Ice isn't just ice because it's linked to other molecules. It can link to other molecules because the kinetic energy is reduced enough that hydrogen bonds are stronger than the motion of the molecules.
Swish... right over his pointy little head. |
Prior to Ogre's masterful exposé of Joe's utter cluelessness, and perhaps leading into it, there was ongoing stick-poking of Joe resulting from his vehement insistence that hail is not made of water.
IIRC, that was preceded by his lecturing us that a baseball and a hailstone of the exact same dimensions are not the same size. |
Hail is STILL made up of ICE. RAIN is made up of water.
If you assholes still can't tell the difference between hail and rain, well YOU are the morons.
Also I said if the hail and baseball have the same measurements- including weight, then they are the same size.
-------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth
"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton
Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code- Â Acartia bogart, TARD
YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism
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