Joe G
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Quote (OgreMkV @ Mar. 20 2014,09:31) | Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 20 2014,09:13) | Joe goes fishing for Tardlove:
Quote | JoeMarch 20, 2014 at 5:19 am OK Eric what about:
Information flows from artist to art, ie from designer to the thing being designed. Therefor any object a designer designs would contain the information required to make it.
A cake, for example, would, at a minimum, contain all the information in the recipe used to make it.
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After thinking about this for 5 more seconds than it deserves (i.e. 5 seconds)... I think Joe has goofed yet again. I know, shocking isn't it?
So if a cake contains all the information in the recipe, then the recipe contains all the information in the paper, ink, chef's knowledge, skills, and abilities, etc.
The paper contains all the information from the tree used to make it. The tree contains all the information used to make it, including information from the sun, temperature/rainfall data from the life of the tree, atmospheric compound concentrations, etc.
I could go on, but we rapidly get to the point where the cake contains all the information in the universe.
Or we could go with the actual conditions and say that information "measured" in this way is a meaningless concept and that the chemical changes caused by baking the cake resets all that prior information, just like radiometric dating samples are 'reset' by the cooling of the igneous rock they are found in or inflation 'reseting' the information prior to inflation.
Since it is impossible to retrieve the information about the recipe from the cake itself, the radioactivity levels prior to the igneous melt cooling from the rocks we have, or the state of the universe prior to inflation from what we have now... all the ID proponents are just blathering on, hoping no one notices that they still can't do what they claim to.
Tell you what Joey. I'll save a piece of my award winning chocolate banana bread for you. You tell me what the recipe is from that slice.
If you can do that, then you win. If you can't (and we both know you can't), then you shut up about your stupid ideas about information. |
Kevin McCarthy, total asshole. The cake doesn't contain the information of the paper, nor the ink. Only a moron on an agenda would say that.
As for information, Kevin, you have proven to be totally ignorant on that subject.
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