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(Permalink) Posted: April 25 2017,07:24   

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Content warning: Bechly is an actual Catholic, like G.K. Chesterton, thus no fan of Darwinism.

Unlike, say the last few popes, who are presumably, therefore, not actually Catholic.

I keenly await Denyse’s report on the sanitary habits of bears.
http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/what-can-happen-when-a-paleontologist-actually-reads-id-theorists/#comment-630003

The Invisible Man by G. K. Chesterton

This is why I have no respect for G. K. Chesterton.  Read it, its blessedly short.  Then ask yourself, what kind of blinkered mind could write tripe like this?

There's plenty like that to go round. The solution to the mystery is pretty much one used by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, although the Sherlock Holmes version was a bit more convincing.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 25 2017,08:54   

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Barry ArringtonApril 25, 2017 at 7:13 am
AJ,

Your childish taunts (see 222) are going to lead to your ouster from these pages yet again. Last warning.


http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-630216

   
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: April 25 2017,08:57   

timothya replies to Dionisio:
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timothya April 25, 2017 at 4:44 am
Do you get paid for this, or is it just an obsessive interest of yours?
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kairosfocus April 25, 2017 at 5:03 am
TA, in the span of only a few minutes you have suggested mental ill-health twice relating to supporters of ID in this blog. In addition, above you suggested mercenary interest. In fact, it should be obvious that D has taken time to document issues in the technical literature that point to substantiation of the design inference thesis, in effect creating an informal bibliography. He has also taken time to draw comparisons with the least disreputable of the penumbra of attack sites. I suggest you need to take time out. KF
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timothyaApril 25, 2017 at 5:25 am
KF:

“TA, in the span of only a few minutes you have suggested mental ill-health twice relating to supporters of ID in this blog. In addition, above you suggested mercenary interest. In fact, it should be obvious that D has taken time to document issues in the technical literature that point to substantiation of the design inference thesis, in effect creating an informal bibliography. He has also taken time to draw comparisons with the least disreputable of the penumbra of attack sites. I suggest you need to take time out. KF”

I’m not the one posting 3000+ comments to a UD thread. Particularly when the pointers to scientific papers provide no specific support to the creationist position. But good luck to him/her. I hope it keeps him/her happy.


http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-630204

   
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: April 25 2017,08:59   

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the penumbra of attack sites.


is that how the word 'penumbra' is used?

   
Acartia_Bogart



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(Permalink) Posted: April 25 2017,09:20   

From Gordon Mullings
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Charles,

AJ is an obvious evo mat or fellow traveller activist trolling UD, for one or more of various reasons, mostly distractive and clearly not to actually responsibly interact with substance.

The usual rule of thumb is, do not feed the trolls, they thrive on attention.

Followed by 1200 words of troll feeding.
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Acartia_Bogart



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(Permalink) Posted: April 25 2017,09:21   

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Barry ArringtonApril 25, 2017 at 7:13 am
AJ,

Your childish taunts (see 222) are going to lead to your ouster from these pages yet again. Last warning.


http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-630216

Gordon must have run to Barry. No surprise.

  
Acartia_Bogart



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(Permalink) Posted: April 25 2017,09:39   

Armand Jacks:
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KF:

FTR: let us recall the actual OP:

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Armand Jacks Destroys ID in One Sentence
April 16, 2017 Posted by Barry Arrington under Intelligent Design
201 Comments

Armand Jacks says he has a knock down show stopping argument to rebut ID’s claim that intelligent agency is the only known cause of specified complexity.


Once again KF is propagating a falsehood. I have asked him repeatedly to find the comment where I make this claim or apologize for spreading falsehoods about me. He has done neither.

I have been threatened with bannination by Barry and I suspect this comment might trigger it. But it is very informative that I would be banned for calling out someone for repeatedly lying about what I have claimed and not admitting the error when pointed out to him.You would almost think that honesty does’t count around here.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 25 2017,10:59   

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the penumbra of attack sites.


is that how the word 'penumbra' is used?

No.

K.F.  clearly has confused the word penultimate with a device used to prevent pens falling on one's self during a writing storm.

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: April 25 2017,10:59   

Re "You would almost think that honesty does’t count around here."

Oh, it counts. It just counts in the wrong direction.

  
k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: April 25 2017,11:16   

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Re "You would almost think that honesty does’t count around here."

Oh, it counts. It just counts in the wrong direction.

Like Count von Count's girlfrind Countess von Backwards ?

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"ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus
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JohnW



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(Permalink) Posted: April 25 2017,11:26   

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timothya April 25, 2017 at 4:44 am
Do you get paid for this, or is it just an obsessive interest of yours?
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kairosfocus April 25, 2017 at 5:03 am
TA, in the span of only a few minutes you have suggested mental ill-health twice relating to supporters of ID in this blog. In addition, above you suggested mercenary interest. In fact, it should be obvious that D has taken time to document issues in the technical literature that point to substantiation of the design inference thesis, in effect creating an informal bibliography. He has also taken time to draw comparisons with the least disreputable of the penumbra of attack sites. I suggest you need to take time out. KF
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timothyaApril 25, 2017 at 5:25 am
KF:

“TA, in the span of only a few minutes you have suggested mental ill-health twice relating to supporters of ID in this blog. In addition, above you suggested mercenary interest. In fact, it should be obvious that D has taken time to document issues in the technical literature that point to substantiation of the design inference thesis, in effect creating an informal bibliography. He has also taken time to draw comparisons with the least disreputable of the penumbra of attack sites. I suggest you need to take time out. KF”

I’m not the one posting 3000+ comments to a UD thread. Particularly when the pointers to scientific papers provide no specific support to the creationist position. But good luck to him/her. I hope it keeps him/her happy.


http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-630204

Gary Gaulin should try that one.

"It's not incoherent babbling, it's an informal bibliography."

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Texas Teach



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(Permalink) Posted: April 25 2017,16:13   

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the penumbra of attack sites.


is that how the word 'penumbra' is used?

Maybe he meant plethora.  But I'm somewhat sceptical that someone who would confuse penumbra with plethora would know the word plethora to begin with.

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: April 25 2017,16:40   

'penumbra' kinda sounds like 'a numbr'a'. Maybe that mislead him.  :p

   
Acartia_Bogart



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(Permalink) Posted: April 25 2017,16:54   

OK, which one of you jokers has socked up at UD as hammaspeikko?
If I remember my Norse mythology, he is a troll responsible for cavities.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 25 2017,17:20   

Quote (stevestory @ April 25 2017,06:57)
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timothya April 25, 2017 at 4:44 am
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kairosfocus April 25, 2017 at 5:03 am
TA, in the span of only a few minutes you have suggested mental ill-health twice relating to supporters of ID in this blog. In addition, above you suggested mercenary interest. In fact, it should be obvious that D has taken time to document issues in the technical literature that point to substantiation of the design inference thesis, in effect creating an informal bibliography. He has also taken time to draw comparisons with the least disreputable of the penumbra of attack sites. I suggest you need to take time out. KF
   
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timothyaApril 25, 2017 at 5:25 am
KF:

“TA, in the span of only a few minutes you have suggested mental ill-health twice relating to supporters of ID in this blog. In addition, above you suggested mercenary interest. In fact, it should be obvious that D has taken time to document issues in the technical literature that point to substantiation of the design inference thesis, in effect creating an informal bibliography. He has also taken time to draw comparisons with the least disreputable of the penumbra of attack sites. I suggest you need to take time out. KF”

I’m not the one posting 3000+ comments to a UD thread. Particularly when the pointers to scientific papers provide no specific support to the creationist position. But good luck to him/her. I hope it keeps him/her happy.


http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-630204

Dionisio's latest documentation of "issues in the technical literature that point to substantiation of the design inference thesis":
 
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Type 2 diabetes (T2D) is a disease of pandemic proportions, one defined by a complex aetiological mix of genetic, epigenetic, environmental, and lifestyle risk factors.

Whilst the last decade of T2D genetic research has identified more than 100 loci showing strong statistical association with disease susceptibility, our inability to capitalise upon these signals reflects, in part, a lack of appropriate human cell models for study.

This article aims to reinforce the importance of investigating T2D signals in cell models reflecting appropriate species, genomic context, developmental time point, and tissue type.

 
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Genome-edited human stem cell-derived beta cells: a powerful tool for drilling down on type 2 diabetes GWAS biology
Nicola L. Beera, and Anna L. Gloyn
Version 1. F1000Res. 5: F1000 Faculty Rev-1711.
doi: 10.12688/f1000research.8682.1

Had we remained in Eden none of that would have been a problem. Too late now.

Work in progress… stay tuned.

Complex complexity.

linky

Yes, I'd say that substantiates the design thesis.  All science so far.

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There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

  
Texas Teach



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(Permalink) Posted: April 25 2017,17:29   

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timothya April 25, 2017 at 4:44 am
Do you get paid for this, or is it just an obsessive interest of yours?
     
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kairosfocus April 25, 2017 at 5:03 am
TA, in the span of only a few minutes you have suggested mental ill-health twice relating to supporters of ID in this blog. In addition, above you suggested mercenary interest. In fact, it should be obvious that D has taken time to document issues in the technical literature that point to substantiation of the design inference thesis, in effect creating an informal bibliography. He has also taken time to draw comparisons with the least disreputable of the penumbra of attack sites. I suggest you need to take time out. KF
     
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timothyaApril 25, 2017 at 5:25 am
KF:

“TA, in the span of only a few minutes you have suggested mental ill-health twice relating to supporters of ID in this blog. In addition, above you suggested mercenary interest. In fact, it should be obvious that D has taken time to document issues in the technical literature that point to substantiation of the design inference thesis, in effect creating an informal bibliography. He has also taken time to draw comparisons with the least disreputable of the penumbra of attack sites. I suggest you need to take time out. KF”

I’m not the one posting 3000+ comments to a UD thread. Particularly when the pointers to scientific papers provide no specific support to the creationist position. But good luck to him/her. I hope it keeps him/her happy.


http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-630204

Dionisio's latest documentation of "issues in the technical literature that point to substantiation of the design inference thesis":
   
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Type 2 diabetes (T2D) is a disease of pandemic proportions, one defined by a complex aetiological mix of genetic, epigenetic, environmental, and lifestyle risk factors.

Whilst the last decade of T2D genetic research has identified more than 100 loci showing strong statistical association with disease susceptibility, our inability to capitalise upon these signals reflects, in part, a lack of appropriate human cell models for study.

This article aims to reinforce the importance of investigating T2D signals in cell models reflecting appropriate species, genomic context, developmental time point, and tissue type.

   
Quote
Genome-edited human stem cell-derived beta cells: a powerful tool for drilling down on type 2 diabetes GWAS biology
Nicola L. Beera, and Anna L. Gloyn
Version 1. F1000Res. 5: F1000 Faculty Rev-1711.
doi: 10.12688/f1000research.8682.1

Had we remained in Eden none of that would have been a problem. Too late now.

Work in progress… stay tuned.

Complex complexity.

linky

Yes, I'd say that substantiates the design thesis.  All science so far.

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Many were increasingly of the opinion that they'd all made a big mistake coming down from the trees in the first place, and some said that even the trees had been a bad move, and that no-one should ever have left the oceans.


Even here there is a better explanation by way of science.

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: April 25 2017,21:14   

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Separating Speech from Thought is nonsense. Speech requires a fully functional “word processor” inside our heads, regardless of whether the specific vocabulary in which we become proficient is English or Swahili..


Interestingly enough, we know this is not true. When deaf children are brought up outside of a sign language culture and later learn language they can describe the thoughts they had when they had no language at all (and their surprise at learning words exist!)
http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/where-did-language-come-from/#comment-630297

   
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(Permalink) Posted: April 26 2017,18:07   

Apparently Armand Jacks has been banned. Colour me surprised.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 26 2017,19:46   

The start of a Dionisio comment at ID:
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A purification postulate for quantum mechanics with indefinite causal order.

I make my living through science and I don't know what the fuck he is saying. But I am sure that Gord Mullings and the mental giants at UD are just lapping it up.

  
Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: April 26 2017,21:05   

Maybe he was applying the uncertainty principle? :p

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 26 2017,22:13   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 27 2017,11:07)
Apparently Armand Jacks has been banned. Colour me surprised.

Only at UD: you get banned trying to comment on a thread that has your name in the title.
I think this may have happened before - does anyone here have other examples?

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(Permalink) Posted: April 26 2017,22:54   

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Apparently Armand Jacks has been banned. Colour me surprised.

Only at UD: you get banned trying to comment on a thread that has your name in the title.
I think this may have happened before - does anyone here have other examples?

Yes, in one or two of my "nom du plumes" I was banned in a thread named in my "honour". I am sure that I am not the only one.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 26 2017,22:59   

The voice from the ceiling has confirmed this. And, at the same time, deleted a comment. No surprise.
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Armand JacksApril 25, 2017 at 8:33 am
AJ is no longer with us.

UD Editors

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 27 2017,10:59   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 26 2017,17:46)
The start of a Dionisio comment at ID:
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A purification postulate for quantum mechanics with indefinite causal order.

I make my living through science and I don't know what the fuck he is saying. But I am sure that Gord Mullings and the mental giants at UD are just lapping it up.

It's a regular theme at UD: "Quantum babble I'm making up based on some physics pop-sci I vaguely remember from years ago, therefore Jesus."  See also: batshit77.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 28 2017,09:50   

Gordon Mullings:
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RVB8:

In some ways, your two responses speak — quite sadly — for themselves, each in their own way. I note the obviously loaded reference to Christian fellowship, as though UD is a Christian enterprise as such. We both know (or should know) better, but also we know the track record you laid down above of a direct challenge to those of us who are Christians, requiring us to speak....

Followed by 3,097 words defending Christianity.

BS Baffles Brains

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 28 2017,10:04   

Mullings inviting Chinese students to come and get educated by UD:
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NOTICE: As thread owner — and I think I can freely speak for the management of UD also (as I know their thoughts on such) — I freely welcome any such students and others to pose their questions and concerns. I would advise use of proxy servers and due cautions. Just remember that the general tone needs to be civil, and if you struggle with that strange language English, we will understand. Indeed, at least one main contributor here started out by using UD as a place to practice his English. KF

Am I the only one who finds this humorous?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 28 2017,10:48   

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Mullings inviting Chinese students to come and get educated by UD:
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NOTICE: As thread owner — and I think I can freely speak for the management of UD also (as I know their thoughts on such) — I freely welcome any such students and others to pose their questions and concerns. I would advise use of proxy servers and due cautions. Just remember that the general tone needs to be civil, and if you struggle with that strange language English, we will understand. Indeed, at least one main contributor here started out by using UD as a place to practice his English. KF

Am I the only one who finds this humorous?

Well it certainly sounds like a great introduction for a comedy act.

I came for the english but got an oil soaked creole strawmanining  instead massah.

I came for the low down on science/Babylon but got a whole lot Jah instead.

If his werds are free then why does he put a price others?

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(Permalink) Posted: April 28 2017,16:07   

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Mullings inviting Chinese students to come and get educated by UD:
 
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NOTICE: As thread owner — and I think I can freely speak for the management of UD also (as I know their thoughts on such) — I freely welcome any such students and others to pose their questions and concerns. I would advise use of proxy servers and due cautions. Just remember that the general tone needs to be civil, and if you struggle with that strange language English, we will understand. Indeed, at least one main contributor here started out by using UD as a place to practice his English. KF

Am I the only one who finds this humorous?

"His" English?  But Denyse is a ...

Never mind.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 28 2017,16:49   

He's being modest. From the looks of it, most UD contributors seem to use UD to practice English. And some of them have thoroughly disproven Gladwell's 10,000 hour rule.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: April 28 2017,22:27   

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He's being modest. From the looks of it, most UD contributors seem to use UD to practice English. And some of them have thoroughly disproven Gladwell's 10,000 hour rule.

Denyse's writing : practicing English :: vivisection : practicing medicine.

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