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Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 31 2015,04:18) | Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Mar. 30 2015,18:32) | Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 30 2015,18:17) | Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Mar. 30 2015,18:14) | Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 30 2015,18:00) | Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Mar. 30 2015,17:02) | Quote (Joe G @ Mar. 30 2015,11:48) | Quote (OgreMkV @ Mar. 29 2015,16:24) | I maintain that forensics is not an ID supporting system mainly because this is how an ID police force would work.
Officer: Yes ma'am, due to various calculations, we've determined that your husband was murdered.
Wife: Do you have any suspects.
Officer: Sorry ma'am, but we don't look for the murder, just determine that he was murdered.
Wife: Can I see your calculations, maybe I could give them to a private detective.
Officer: Sorry ma'am, but you wouldn't understand them.
Wife: Surely you can give them to me. Maybe someone else could understand them.
Officer: I already gave them to you. |
Kevin, just because you are a lowlife loser who couldn't conduct an investigation if your life depended on it, doesn't mean everyone else is too.
You don't look for a murderer until you determine a murder has been committed. And most times that is all the forensics says. The detectives then go about using the forensics to find the murderer.
But then again you know forensics only from CSI shows... |
True, you don't look for a murderer until you know a murder has been committed. Does this mean that you are finally admitting that design in nature is far from conclusive?
Biologists started looking for the mechanism behind evolution shortly after Darwin proposed his theory. Since then they have discovered genetics, mutation, meiosis and mitosis, genetic drift, neutral theory, antibiotic resistance, horizontal gene transfer, transcription, transposition, etc., et ., etc.
And ID has discovered ...??? FIASCO? good job.
Maybe you should stick to wavelength and frequency. You make more sense with these (none). |
Unguided evolution cannot account for any of what biologists have found- well it can account for disease and deformities.
Transcription and translation alone are definitely evidence for ID. The genetic code is arbitrary and as such it is not reducible to physics or chemistry. Add alternative splicing, overlapping genes, proof-reading, error-correction and intelligent design in biology is as self-evident as the intelligent design of Stonehenge.
Even when given starting populations of prokaryotes you don't have a mechanism that can get beyond that. |
Joey, you keep telling us what we don't have (even though we do) but you never tell us what creationism has. Please be specific. Please link us to the definitive theory. And the overwhelming evidence that supports this theory. And see if you can do this without using words like "asshole, fuck, moron, etc".
You are now up to bat. |
ID is not creationism. Obviously you are too fucked up to have a discussion.
I have provided all you ask for on my blog. It has a search feature. Today's post is a repost of positive evidence for ID. |
Joey, until you "ID" proponents are willing to discuss the nature of the designer and the mechanisms involved, ID and creationism are indistinguishable. Can you explain to me (and other fellow travellers) why I am wrong?
On another subject, are you willing to give us your honest opinion of Gordon Mullings and Bornagain77? If you cannot distinguish yourself from these "geniuses" why should we take you seriously? |
Yes, sock puppet, we know you are ignorant when it comes to science. We do NOT have to know anything about the designer to determine if design exists. We do not have to know anything about the mechanism, either.
If you could just stop being such an ignorant coward, step up and try to support unguided evolution, you wouldn't have to worry about ID. But your position is so lame that you can't do that.
Attacking ID will NEVER be positive evidence for evolutionism. Especially when you attack it with your ignorance. |
Hey frisbee kid, Jim, John Paul, ID guy, since you don't like sock puppets, why don't you bitch at kf, ba77, HeKS, phoodoo, Box, Mung, and all the other IDiots who don't use their real names?
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