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hereoisreal Posts: 745 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 09 2008,23:49    Quote (William Wallace @ May 09 2008,22:35) Quote (hereoisreal @ May 09 2008,21:49) It was posted on your site for some time with no following posts and then the thread went down and still is. I will not try to talk to an empty room just to hear myself. ***************************** http://blog.coincidencetheories.com/?p=228 The Scientific Method May 8, 2008 – 12:02 am by William Wallace The scientific method explained: Zero I have exactly four email notifications of your comments, and, coincidentally, all four posts are still on the site. They may be Mr. Wallace but "The Scientific Method" thread DOES NOT LOAD.  Every other link loads. Would someone else try, then post here or PM me? Zero -------------- 360  miracles and more at: http://www.hereoisreal.com/....eal.com Great news. God’s wife is pregnant! (Rev. 12:5) It's not over till the fat lady sings! (Isa. 54:1 & Zec 9:9)

William Wallace Posts: 67 Joined: May 2008 (Permalink) Posted: May 10 2008,00:55    Quote (hereoisreal @ May 09 2008,23:49) Quote (William Wallace @ May 09 2008,22:35)   Quote (hereoisreal @ May 09 2008,21:49) It was posted on your site for some time with no following posts and then the thread went down and still is. I will not try to talk to an empty room just to hear myself. ***************************** http://blog.coincidencetheories.com/?p=228 The Scientific Method May 8, 2008 – 12:02 am by William Wallace The scientific method explained: Zero I have exactly four email notifications of your comments, and, coincidentally, all four posts are still on the site. They may be Mr. Wallace but "The Scientific Method" thread DOES NOT LOAD.  Every other link loads. Would someone else try, then post here or PM me? Zero I just posted something there, and it stuck.

UnMark Posts: 97 Joined: Mar. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 10 2008,01:39    Quote (didymos @ May 09 2008,00:44)   Quote (dheddle @ May 08 2008,11:13) Technically WW is correct re. falling bodies, although I am not sure if the trap he plans to spring is General Relativity or relative acceleration. He went for relative acceleration:     Quote The time to fall is measured in the time to collide, and not only does the Earth pull a falling object down, but the falling object pulls the Earth up. My math indicates that an apple falling to earth causes the earth to accelerate at approximately one-half meter per second per million trillion years (3.9 * 10^-27 m/s/s).

Nomad Posts: 311 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 10 2008,01:46    Quote (didymos @ May 09 2008,16:30) WRT to the camera link:  there really are genuine CCD devices using a pinhole though, right? http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/article....le.html Although if you want to be pedantic the 1Ds uses a CMOS instead of a CCD sensor. I'm guessing that most things marketed as pinhole cameras are really small cameras with small but conventional lenses meant to be used as spy cameras, hidden behind something and peering at their target through a hole.  A hole in a wall, a hole in an appliance, whatever.  But not really as small as a pin hole, it'd have to be a bit bigger.

hereoisreal Posts: 745 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 10 2008,08:49    Quote (William Wallace @ May 10 2008,00:55)   Quote (hereoisreal @ May 09 2008,23:49)     Quote (William Wallace @ May 09 2008,22:35)       Quote (hereoisreal @ May 09 2008,21:49) It was posted on your site for some time with no following posts and then the thread went down and still is. I will not try to talk to an empty room just to hear myself. ***************************** http://blog.coincidencetheories.com/?p=228 The Scientific Method May 8, 2008 – 12:02 am by William Wallace The scientific method explained: Zero I have exactly four email notifications of your comments, and, coincidentally, all four posts are still on the site. They may be Mr. Wallace but "The Scientific Method" thread DOES NOT LOAD.  Every other link loads. Would someone else try, then post here or PM me? Zero I just posted something there, and it stuck. Can anyone else, besides Mr. Wallace, load the thread "The Scientific Method "? I can't, nor can my Tec friend across town. Mr Wallace, I posted only once on "The Scientific Method" and I saw it there.  Since I can't read the thread now, I'm asking you, is my post still there? Zero -------------- 360  miracles and more at: http://www.hereoisreal.com/....eal.com Great news. God’s wife is pregnant! (Rev. 12:5) It's not over till the fat lady sings! (Isa. 54:1 & Zec 9:9)

oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 10 2008,09:14    I can load it and there is only one post Quote # Test By William Wallace on May 10, 2008 -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 10 2008,09:27    William, for all your talk of "come over to my blog and talk science" you appear to have left many points raised by the people who have bothered to do so unanswered.       Quote Encouraging a child to think of conclusions of science as being ‘made up’ can cause other problems: why do we accept that the holocaust happened? Because the evidence strongly indicates that it did. If kids are raised to to be suspicious of conclusions reached by way of strong supporting evidence…it isn’t just the Big Bang they might grow up to reject. Mod Tell me William. If the standards of evidence that the scientific community use are so poor that you can say that it's "made up" then how do you reconcile that with the fact you appear to base your belief and worldview around a book full of bronze age myths written by politicians for mostly self serving means?  If the lack of "evidence" for evolution gives you pause then why are you so enthusiastically backing a point of view that has almost no evidence whatsoever behind it? It seems to me you have double standards. And sure, the bible is not a science textbook, more an attempt to get people to live to a particular moral code. Yet it seems you are happy to replace a science textbook with the bible. So what gives? William, how old do you think the universe is? And a phrase like "scientists think" could just as easily be written "scientists know", as it's perfectly true. They do "know" because of the evidence. And whatever else the evidence might say I'm afraid it's already ruled out a 6000 year earth 100%. It's only the true blinkered believer like yourself (it would appear) that can "know" on the basis of no actual evidence. You don't need any, I realise that,  It's all in your mouldy old book. -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

hereoisreal Posts: 745 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 10 2008,09:32    Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ May 10 2008,09:14) I can load it and there is only one post   Quote # Test By William Wallace on May 10, 2008 Thank you old man.  At last there's LIGHT,even if you didn't do it. Zero -------------- 360  miracles and more at: http://www.hereoisreal.com/....eal.com Great news. God’s wife is pregnant! (Rev. 12:5) It's not over till the fat lady sings! (Isa. 54:1 & Zec 9:9)

hereoisreal Posts: 745 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 10 2008,10:23    Quote (hereoisreal @ May 10 2008,09:32)   Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ May 10 2008,09:14) I can load it and there is only one post       Quote # Test By William Wallace on May 10, 2008 Thank you old man.  At last there's LIGHT,even if you didn't do it. Zero Recent Comments: William Wallace on The Scientific Method *********************************** If one clicks the above link, it brings you, not to the thread for Mr. Wallave's comment's, but to this: ********************************** William Wallace is a skeptical soul who studies the bible on his own. He is also the founder of Coincidence Theories. Interests Evolution Controversy History of Science Communications Theory Information Theory StreamIt Streaming Complier for Parallel processing ***************************************** which is the "Wallace" link at the top of the home site. I can go everywhere except where I wanted to go.  Strange. I give up. Zero -------------- 360  miracles and more at: http://www.hereoisreal.com/....eal.com Great news. God’s wife is pregnant! (Rev. 12:5) It's not over till the fat lady sings! (Isa. 54:1 & Zec 9:9)

hereoisreal Posts: 745 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 10 2008,10:35    Wesley, I'd sure like to know: Is there a "Scientific Method" to posting the truth without anyone seeing it but the poster? Wallace: "I just posted something there, and it stuck." Zero -------------- 360  miracles and more at: http://www.hereoisreal.com/....eal.com Great news. God’s wife is pregnant! (Rev. 12:5) It's not over till the fat lady sings! (Isa. 54:1 & Zec 9:9)

Quidam Posts: 229 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: May 10 2008,11:29    Quote (Nomad @ May 10 2008,00:46) http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/article....le.html Although if you want to be pedantic the 1Ds uses a CMOS instead of a CCD sensor. To be pedantic, it's not a commercial product.  I won't dispute that you could make a pinhole CCD camera, but I don't think anyone makes a commercial product. I experimented with a pinhole SLR when I was younger (in the days when an SLR camera was a major expense that you expected to last a lifetime).  I used a bellows close-up mount with aluminium foil attached with a rubber band.  That way you can make really tiny holes with the tip of a needle, or a bigger one by pushing the whole needle.  Without Photoshop the results were either very dark and sharp or just dark and fuzzy. Quote I'm guessing that most things marketed as pinhole cameras are really small cameras with small but conventional lenses meant to be used as spy cameras, hidden behind something and peering at their target through a hole. That's an acccurate guess.  The 'pinhole' lenses typically have an aperture of 3mm and a focal length of 5-6mm.  If you look carefully at the specs you will usually find it stated somewhere. -------------- The organized fossils ... and their localities also, may be understood by all, even the most illiterate. William Smith, Strata. 1816

Quidam Posts: 229 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: May 10 2008,11:34    Quote (UnMark @ May 10 2008,00:39) My math indicates that an apple falling to earth causes the earth to accelerate at approximately one-half meter per second per million trillion years (3.9 * 10^-27 m/s/s). If the apple was originally attached to a tree or dropped by a person the net effect is zero.  The reaction of the tree branch to the release of he apple is equal to the effect of the apple's impact on the earth Your calculation is only correct if the apple originated from outside the Earth's gravity field. -------------- The organized fossils ... and their localities also, may be understood by all, even the most illiterate. William Smith, Strata. 1816

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 10 2008,11:42    zero I think Willy Wahhhhhla is an empty room. except for that bearded fella. -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

William Wallace Posts: 67 Joined: May 2008 (Permalink) Posted: May 10 2008,12:13    Quote (hereoisreal @ May 09 2008,23:49) Quote (William Wallace @ May 09 2008,22:35)   Quote (hereoisreal @ May 09 2008,21:49) It was posted on your site for some time with no following posts and then the thread went down and still is. I will not try to talk to an empty room just to hear myself. ***************************** http://blog.coincidencetheories.com/?p=228 The Scientific Method May 8, 2008 – 12:02 am by William Wallace The scientific method explained: Zero I have exactly four email notifications of your comments, and, coincidentally, all four posts are still on the site. They may be Mr. Wallace but "The Scientific Method" thread DOES NOT LOAD.  Every other link loads. Would someone else try, then post here or PM me? Zero Okay, I guess there is a problem with internet explorer.  Sorry for the trouble, I will look into later tonight.

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: May 10 2008,15:37    Surely no one ever experiences problems with software. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

didymos Posts: 1828 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: May 10 2008,22:31    Quote (Quidam @ May 10 2008,09:34) Quote (UnMark @ May 10 2008,00:39) My math indicates that an apple falling to earth causes the earth to accelerate at approximately one-half meter per second per million trillion years (3.9 * 10^-27 m/s/s). If the apple was originally attached to a tree or dropped by a person the net effect is zero.  The reaction of the tree branch to the release of he apple is equal to the effect of the apple's impact on the earth Your calculation is only correct if the apple originated from outside the Earth's gravity field. Pedant. -------------- I wouldn't be bothered reading about the selfish gene because it has never been identified. -- Denyse O'Leary, professional moron Again "how much". I don't think that's a good way to be quantitative.-- gpuccio

Richard Simons Posts: 425 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 10 2008,22:33    Quote (Quidam @ May 10 2008,11:29)  Without Photoshop the results were either very dark and sharp or just dark and fuzzy. Pinhole cameras were used for extremely long exposures such as those scenes of streets that look deserted except for a few ghostly images of parked cars. -------------- All sweeping statements are wrong.

jeffox Posts: 671 Joined: Oct. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 10 2008,22:33    Wes wrote: Quote Surely no one ever experiences problems with software. I thought that's why they invented Viagra.  :)

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 11 2008,06:41    Quote (jeffox @ May 11 2008,04:33) Wes wrote: Quote Surely no one ever experiences problems with software. I thought that's why they invented Viagra.  :) {Uncle Charlie Pfizer Hat ON} Well akshurly, sildenafil citrate (Viagra to you and me) started life as a heart drug its use in {ahem} software engineering  was the result of what could be described as a happy accident. It's a fascinating tale of cliical trials and side effects. {Uncle Charlie Pfizer Hat Off} Louis -------------- Bye.

oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 11 2008,07:06    Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ May 10 2008,09:27) William, for all your talk of "come over to my blog and talk science" you appear to have left many points raised by the people who have bothered to do so unanswered.         Quote Encouraging a child to think of conclusions of science as being ‘made up’ can cause other problems: why do we accept that the holocaust happened? Because the evidence strongly indicates that it did. If kids are raised to to be suspicious of conclusions reached by way of strong supporting evidence…it isn’t just the Big Bang they might grow up to reject. Mod Tell me William. If the standards of evidence that the scientific community use are so poor that you can say that it's "made up" then how do you reconcile that with the fact you appear to base your belief and worldview around a book full of bronze age myths written by politicians for mostly self serving means?  If the lack of "evidence" for evolution gives you pause then why are you so enthusiastically backing a point of view that has almost no evidence whatsoever behind it? It seems to me you have double standards. And sure, the bible is not a science textbook, more an attempt to get people to live to a particular moral code. Yet it seems you are happy to replace a science textbook with the bible. So what gives? William, how old do you think the universe is? And a phrase like "scientists think" could just as easily be written "scientists know", as it's perfectly true. They do "know" because of the evidence. And whatever else the evidence might say I'm afraid it's already ruled out a 6000 year earth 100%. It's only the true blinkered believer like yourself (it would appear) that can "know" on the basis of no actual evidence. You don't need any, I realise that,  It's all in your mouldy old book. I note there is still no response to "Mod" even though it's a post on your own site William where you said you wanted to discuss such issues. So, you don't want to discuss science here, you don't want to discuss it there. What, then, have you to complain about exactly? -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 11 2008,10:33    For the love of all things unholy, could we please not goad William into going down that road again? Thanks. Quote toilet door, by Queen of the desert -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

didymos Posts: 1828 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: May 11 2008,12:10    Quote (Lou FCD @ May 11 2008,08:33) For the love of all things unholy, could we please not goad William into going down that road again? Umm, yeah, good point.  He'll probably do it again anyway, but why hasten the process. -------------- I wouldn't be bothered reading about the selfish gene because it has never been identified. -- Denyse O'Leary, professional moron Again "how much". I don't think that's a good way to be quantitative.-- gpuccio

hereoisreal Posts: 745 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 11 2008,12:22    http://blog.coincidencetheories.com/?p=228 Home About Wallace Guidelines File 13 Privacy policy The Out The Scientific Method May 8, 2008 – 12:02 am by William Wallace The scientific method explained: ??????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????? -------------- 360  miracles and more at: http://www.hereoisreal.com/....eal.com Great news. God’s wife is pregnant! (Rev. 12:5) It's not over till the fat lady sings! (Isa. 54:1 & Zec 9:9)

George Posts: 316 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 11 2008,14:15    Quote (Lou FCD @ May 11 2008,10:33) For the love of all things unholy, could we please not goad William into going down that road again? Thanks. Quote toilet door, by Queen of the desert The only reason I'm reading this thread is the fascinating bathroom photos you're digging up.

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 11 2008,14:48    Well, I aim to please... so to speak. Here's a freebie. Quote welcome to hell, by roinks -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 11 2008,15:23    Quote (Lou FCD @ May 11 2008,12:48) Well, I aim to please... so to speak. Here's a freebie.   Quote welcome to hell, by roinks Ooh, let me contribute! -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

hereoisreal Posts: 745 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 12 2008,05:43    Quote (hereoisreal @ May 11 2008,12:22) http://blog.coincidencetheories.com/?p=228 Home About Wallace Guidelines File 13 Privacy policy The Out The Scientific Method May 8, 2008 – 12:02 am by William Wallace The scientific method explained: ??????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????? The scientific method explained: Simple: 1. Take your marbles 2. Turn off the light 3. Go home -------------- 360  miracles and more at: http://www.hereoisreal.com/....eal.com Great news. God’s wife is pregnant! (Rev. 12:5) It's not over till the fat lady sings! (Isa. 54:1 & Zec 9:9)

didymos Posts: 1828 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: May 12 2008,06:53    Quote (hereoisreal @ May 12 2008,03:43) Quote (hereoisreal @ May 11 2008,12:22) http://blog.coincidencetheories.com/?p=228 Home About Wallace Guidelines File 13 Privacy policy The Out The Scientific Method May 8, 2008 – 12:02 am by William Wallace The scientific method explained: ??????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????? The scientific method explained: Simple: 1. Take your marbles 2. Turn off the light 3. Go home Nice.  Very Nice. -------------- I wouldn't be bothered reading about the selfish gene because it has never been identified. -- Denyse O'Leary, professional moron Again "how much". I don't think that's a good way to be quantitative.-- gpuccio

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 12 2008,09:00    Wow. 10 pages for Willy Wally and no ID discussion yet. But He's being oppressed and or expelled, I'm sure. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

hereoisreal Posts: 745 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 12 2008,09:34    Mr Wallace, as of today, I am the last word ( post ) on these 4 topics on your site. Categories: Theology  Topics # 1,2, &3 below Science    Topic # 4 below http://blog.coincidencetheories.com/?cat=18 1.Truth is disclosed before it is revealed 2.A Trinity of Trinities 3.Men in the Middle http://blog.coincidencetheories.com/?p=228 4.The Scientific Method I've archived 1,2,&3. Looking back, I should have done the same with #4. My wife says I have perfect eyes in my ass.  She calls it 20/20 hindsight. On the topic now: "The scientific method explained: Source What You Ought To Know UPDATE: For some reason, this post doesn't seem to be working in Internet explorer....a fix is in the works" A simple "fix" would be for you to C&P that whole topic to this thread or mine (Zero resurrected) or is it gone forever? What was "What You Ought To Know" about? Someone wrote the piece about "what". Mr Wallace agreed. I then posted,"Who, what, where, how, when, why" and the lights went out.   To Lou: Is that alright with you, or should I just drop the whole matter? Zero -------------- 360  miracles and more at: http://www.hereoisreal.com/....eal.com Great news. God’s wife is pregnant! (Rev. 12:5) It's not over till the fat lady sings! (Isa. 54:1 & Zec 9:9)

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