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Quote (NoName @ Oct. 11 2015,06:16) | [quote=MrIntelligentDesign,Oct. 11 2015,04:34] Quote (dazz @ Oct. 11 2015,03:26) | Quote (MrIntelligentDesign @ Oct. 11 2015,10:23) | How do you know eating when you're hungry is naturen? What's your evidence?
It's you who doesn't know what "empirical evidence" means.
Saying it's "obviously" so is not evidence |
The evidence is in our categorization of event.
When you are hungry, McDonald is the place to be! And that is naturen!
to eat because you are hungry...is not intelligence..that is how our body works and nature works all the time...
Assuming that I am wrong, so, do you defend the position that eating because hungry is intelligence? Is that what you are trying to say?
Let us fight for that intellectually! |
So eating is 'naturen'. All animals eat. And according to you all animals are intellen. Quote (MrIntelligentDesign @ Oct. 07 2015,16:57) | Quote (The whole truth @ Oct. 07 2015,08:24) | Hey wait a second, Edgar, you said that animals are not intelligent, that they use instinct only, and that they are therefor "naturen", but you also say that ticks and dolphins are "intellen" (intelligent) because they have a defense mechanism. Can you name some animals that have no defense mechanism? |
Since all animals are intellen, then, it is expected and predicted that all of them have defense mechanisms... |
You contradict yourself yet again.
Your 'intellen'/'naturen' division is artificial, ad hoc, and nothing more than a rhetorical ploy. There is nothing scientific about it. You cannot even consistently apply it. |
"You cannot even consistently apply it."
That's putting it mildly. :)
Edgar applies the word "intellen" very inconsistently, such as to things (X) that were and/or are created by intelligence, things that were and/or are created by an intelligent agent, things that were and/or are created using intelligence, things that were and/or are intelligent, things that originated by or from intelligence, things that originated using intelligence, things that originated because they were and/or are intelligent, things that are solutions to a problem, things that solve problems, things that don't solve problems, things that solve one problem with two solutions or things that solve one problem with three solutions but not things that solve multiple problems with one or multiple solutions, things that plan, things that don't plan, things that use what they have learned, things that don't use what they have learned, things that use their ability to learn, things that don't use their ability to learn, all animals, no animals, existence, non-existence, everything that exists, only some things that exist, only some things that have ever existed, everything that has ever existed (the universe/cosmos) but not some of the things in the universe, the existence of living things, the existence of things that are not living, things that evolve or evolved, things that didn't and don't evolve, eating and drinking foods with "higher nutrients" or "additional nutrients" but not any other kind of eating, an intelligent agent (aka God) that has always existed, success, etc.
Hey Edgar, do you think that I've misrepresented your application of the word "intellen"? After reading all of your posts here and on the thread at sciforums.com I find that how you apply the word "intellen" is VERY inconsistent, contradictory, and confusing. So tell me, what exactly is your definition/description/application of the word "intellen"? Wording matters, so use very specific wording. Ask someone who is good at English to help you choose your words.
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