Louis
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Quote (OgreMkV @ May 24 2012,12:14) | So, basically, you're saying that I should be held accountable for Joe's stupid comments on my blog?
I don't want to argue about it. I don't care. I am saying that there is a personality cult at PZs.
Even people who agree with him about a lot of things (like me) get attacked if I don't say things vociferously enough.
it's an outlet for all those people who never had one before. I'd love to do an experiment and see just how far most of the commentors are willing to go with him. Ask PZ to put up a not-out-of-character style, but mostly out-of-character post and see who still follows him or who calls bullshit.
Again, this is based entirely on my own experiences there, not the Abbie thing or anything else. |
Ogre (and whoever),
No I am not saying anything remotely like you should be responsible for Joe's comments on your blog. Don't be a blithering fucking idiot.
I have made not a single fucking comment on the blog drama at SB, the fooforaw between Abbie and PZ and whoever, or on blog comments etc. Get this through your fucking skulls:
I SIMPLY DO NOT FUCKING CARE!
You fuckwits can have your interblog soap operas all you like. I just don't care. PZ and Abbie are included in that "You".
If it isn't abundantly clear to you all yet this is beginning to piss me off. Whinge about anyone as much or as little as you want, but don't fucking involve me. I don't care.
I do care about being misrepresented. I do care about being continually drawn back to endless wankfests over very simple topics where what I have said is not merely abundantly clear, but relatively simple.
I don't care what thoughts you have about PZ's blog, just like I doubt you give a fuck about mine. Is there a cult of personality? Who the fuck knows? Guess what, given the fact that I frequently disagree with him and anyone, pretty vocally, over there (and I'm far from alone), I doubt there is one. And I have yet to suffer a great trauma. Even if there is, does my posting there mean I am a member? I post here does this mean I am part of Wes' cult of personality?
For fuck's sake, this is beyond pathetic.
You are apparently grown men, this is childish "them and us" bullshit. Stop wasting my time with this utter fucking drivel. I owe none of you a single justification for any comment, thought or idea. And since on this issue I think, beyond reasonable doubt, you and several other people here are utterly blinkered to any contrary view to your own, I am unwilling to treat you as if you were honest, rational participants in a dialogue about it and subjects relating to it.
Clear enough?
All this "Wahh PZ and some of his commenters were meaner to me than I like and I'm SO on their side and everything" is infantile butthurt of the worst kind.
Guess what, lo those many years ago when AFDave was here a few of us followed him to the RDF and warned them. I was a bit of a prick about it, they didn't like my (and some others') rather rough "tone" (sound familiar?). So I got banned from RDF. Other than ONE email to the guy who banned me saying he'd misunderstood, I left it. I am not butthurt. I don't care. It's their little slice of the web, if they don't want me pissing in it, they are entirely entitled to that. Not been back since, I just don't care. What am I missing? Sweet fuck all. If Pharyngula is not to your tastes, if PZ is not your bag, DON'T GO THERE. My ego is not so large that some fucking moderator on some fucking message board's opinion that I am a ban-worthy arsehole is something that even features in my thinking.
If you want to whinge about PZ's profile and his public meanie-faced-ness, that might be something I could give a modicum of the beginning of a fuck about. Tactical differences in dealing with people are a good thing to discuss. Since I have already stated a bazillion times that I am a pluralist on this issue, be placid, be mean, be everything in between, I'm not sure what discussion is left. It's not like I've hidden my opinion under a fucking rock. What fuck's me right off is the whinging fucking "accomodationists" with their "you're not helping" and "you're just as fundamentalist as the fundies" horseshit. Why? Because they are wrong, incorrect, in error. Those claims are demonstrably false. They have been demonstrated false. Dozens and dozens of times over. If someone want me to handhold them through the arguments yet a-fucking-gain, I have to be beyond merely convinced they are not wasting my time.
That is not the case HERE. Deal with it.
Louis
P.S. I am impressed with my fuck count there. I think it could do with a few more though.
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