JohnW
Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006
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Quote (stevestory @ Aug. 14 2015,09:19) | Quote (JohnW @ Aug. 14 2015,11:38) | Quote (stevestory @ Aug. 14 2015,07:03) | Quote (Learned Hand @ Aug. 13 2015,23:36) | Coincidentally I had a client contact me today to ask for support in an ongoing negotiation. One of their questions was whether they should accuse the other side of negotiating in bad faith right away, or wait a bit. I gave the advice any good negotiator or communicator would: don't accuse them at all. First of all, it's probably not true. Second, what's the point? It might make you feel good, but does it help you at all? Will they come around more quickly, or be more reluctant to agree? Will it discourage future bad behavior, or encourage it?
I was thinking about that at the same time Stephen was writing that materialists are just lying objectivists, and a while after Barry went on his tirade about lying maggots spewing idiot garbage, etc. It's not just crass, it's shortsighted and foolish. Ironically the objectivists are the ones lighting fires because it feels good. |
I grew up in a household with really poor communication. Countless times I had to parse instructions like "Get me the thing off the thing." and daily bickering that traced back to a shitty communicator getting frustrated that nobody understood him and turning shitty communication into mean communication. I became really aware of, and sensitive to, how and why people communicate. And it's 100% clear that Barry's in this to prove how much smarter and penetrating his mind is. All other goals are secondary. It's probably tied into why he became a lawyer in the first place. Excessive self-regard. |
I don't know that it's a goal so much as an underlying condition. If you don't think the same as Barry, then by definition you must be stupid, evil, or both. |
as you pointed out at UD, he's not thinking strategically, so i agree, he's not acting with a conscious goal in mind. Showing off his piercing intellect is a condition or subconscious motivation.
In my mid-20's i took some communication classes which really got me thinking explicitly about this stuff, and it's improved my life. |
I find it interesting how much his approach resembles a stereotypical sleazy lawyer summing-up to a jury. Nothing but distortions and appeals to emotion. He wouldn't last five minutes in a science forum - or, for that matter, in a courtroom with a half-decent judge.
-------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers
There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"... The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG
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