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J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 03 2007,10:43    JAM asked me to invite Steve from triablogue guy here, but it's not my blog!  If Wes or Steve want to invite him, fine, but I think this guy is a total waste of time, and has made up what little mind he has a long time ago. WARNING:  This guy has a serious stick up his behind, and makes Heddle look like a hell-fire chasing wacked out crazy living on the edge.   He's not the kind of guy I would hang out with, but hey, if we were all the same, this old world would be boring.   So, Wes and/or Steve, take a look at him from his blog profile: steve hays Age: 47 Gender: Male Astrological Sign: Virgo Zodiac Year: Boar Industry: Religion Occupation: writer Location: Sto-Vo-Kor : United States About Me I’m a native of the greater Seattle area. I’m a TA at RTS. In theology, I’m a Calvinist, creationist, inerrantist, cessationist, classical Christian theist, and amil (with postmil sympathies). I'm a low churchman with a sympathy for a certain amount of high church symbolism. I’m a pragmatist about church polity. On the sacraments, I take them to be symbolic. I regard other issues in sacramentology as secondary to this primary position. In philosophy, I’m an Augustinian exemplarist. I’m a Cartesian dualist. I’m an alethic realist, but scientific antirealist. I believe in innate ideas, sense knowledge (I'm an indirect realist), and the primacy of divine revelation in Scripture. In ethics, I subscribe to traditional Christian morality, rooted God’s revealed law as the source and standard of personal and social ethics. I also subscribe to a supralapsarian theodicy. Although I’m not a Lutheran, a traditional Lutheran service suits my taste in the style of worship. Interests Philosophy theology art music. -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 03 2007,10:45    -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Albatrossity2 Posts: 2780 Joined: Mar. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 03 2007,10:54    Quote (J-Dog @ Aug. 03 2007,10:43) Industry: Religion Well, unlike some other creationists who have visited here, at least he's honest about it. But I agree with J-Dog and Rich's dog-avatar. i think it would be a complete waste of time. Generally folks who describe themselves as "inerrantist" will spend their time talking about religion (yawn) rather than science, although in their own twisted minds, I guess they actually do think that they are talking about science. -------------- Flesh of the sky, child of the sky, the mind Has been obligated from the beginning To create an ordered universe As the only possible proof of its own inheritance.                         - Pattiann Rogers

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 03 2007,10:58    Why is it that Quote creationist, inerrantist, and this Quote Cartesian dualist... scientific antirealist seem to go together?   There are some great arguments for anti-realism but they don't come from inspired revelation.  you have to be an anti-realist to be YEC but the hilarious thing is that they try to argue with scientific evidence (inevitably falling back on the mysterious effects of Teh Fall or Sin, or 'The Lard Works in teh mysterious ways) -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 03 2007,11:10    Invite anyone you want here. My only request is that you invite the smartest creationists you can find. Completely uneducated people with poor reasoning skills, like FTK or Larry F, provoke less interesting discussions than people who are familiar with science or know how to reason.

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 03 2007,12:24    From his personal notes: I believe in innate ideas, sense knowledge (I'm an indirect realist), and the primacy of divine revelation in Scripture. From MY personal notes:   I believe this says science stopper ("primacy of divine revelation is Scripture" does not leave a lot of room for discussion).   I think someone should send him to UD, or Heddle's blog not here! -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 03 2007,15:00    I with both dogs. J-dog and the dog RTH posted! Heaving rocks at religious loons is pointless. Even if they are theology student/TA religious loons. It isn't about evidence for these people and as such I have neither the time nor inclination to try and pull them out of their delusional little god-world. Nasty? You betcha. I might even be moved to sarcasm! I know enough religious people from all spectra and all points on those spectra (loon to non-loon, decent to hypocritical frothing unreflective fundy, intelligent to the other end of that ermm spect thingy) not to need to have my "religious person average" lowered by yet more fuckwittery. Of course, that's just my opinion, not some statement of policy or advice or anything serious. Louis -------------- Bye.

"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank Posts: 2560 Joined: Feb. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 03 2007,17:24    Quote (stevestory @ Aug. 03 2007,11:10) Invite anyone you want here. My only request is that you invite the smartest creationists you can find. Good luck with that. (snicker) -------------- Editor, Red and Black Publishers www.RedandBlackPublishers.com

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