Erasmus, FCD
Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007
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Quote (utidjian @ Aug. 15 2009,10:12) | Quote (dvunkannon @ Aug. 14 2009,20:38) | Quote (MichaelJ @ Aug. 14 2009,21:20) | Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Aug. 14 2009,10:36) | Quote | 7 –> The following Sunday, the tomb is open and empty, and the former occupant, over the following forty days, appears to, eats and converses with his friends, family and followers, including making breakfast and having a fairly public meeting with over 500.
8 –> These 500 become the core of a culture-transforming movement that was unstoppable by even fire and sword. |
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How do you know the resurrection happened? There were 500 witnesses to Jesus rising from the dead. What evidence is there for the 500 witnesses? It is in the Bible. How do we know that the Bible is true? It is the word of God. How do we know it is the word of God? There were 500 witnesses to Jesus rising from the dead. WTF |
Same argument is used by Orthodox Jews, but with 600,000 adult males witnessing the giving of the Torah on Mt Sinai, with extra goodness like "you could never get 600,000 Jews to agree about anything, therefore it must be true!" |
I have used a similar argument against Apollo Moon Mission deniers:
It is extremely unlikely that, after all these years, not a single scientist, engineer, or technician of the tens of thousands that were involved in the project would not have come forward by now and denied that it really happened.
Main difference between the resurrection and the torah thing and the Apollo Mission being that many of the witnesses are still alive today. That and a tremendous amount of hard data and evidence.
Whatever the difficulties, Jules Verne's From Earth to the Moon, published in 1865 is more believable than the bible.
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when you are dealing with the particular portion of the population where there is an overlap of these two batshitteries then you may have great fun. i.e. moon denier arguing for the historicity of the resurrection as evidenced by gods ineffable inerrant inscrutable independent word. otherwise it's just one more roadside attraction a yard sale on the victory lap route on the patch back to Valhalla, a verse out of the testament to the cheerful willingness of human beings to believe absolute horseshit because it just makes them feel better about themselves when they do.
-------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK
Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG
the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat
I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles
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