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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 12 2019,22:00   

Not even zero?  :p

  
Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 12 2019,22:22   

Quote (stevestory @ Aug. 12 2019,12:55)
A New Clue to How Life Originated

ed yong in the atlantic

What I found odd about

Caitlin E. Cornell, Roy A. Black, Mengjun Xue, Helen E. Litz, Andrew Ramsay, Moshe Gordon, Alexander Mileant, Zachary R. Cohen, James A. Williams, Kelly K. Lee, Gary P. Drobny, Sarah L. Keller
2019 “Prebiotic amino acids bind to and stabilize prebiotic fatty acid membranes” Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences Aug 2019, 201900275;
DOI: 10.1073/pnas.1900275116

Was that it seems to be a repeat of;

Moshe Gordon, Roy A. Black, Matthew C. Blosser, Sarah L. Keller
2015 "Amino Acids and Peptides Stabilize Fatty Acid Membranes against Salt-Induced Flocculation" Biophysical Journal Volume 108, Issue 2, Supplement 1, 27 January 2015, Page 542a
DOI: https://doi.org/10.1016....11.2972

There was a bit about phospholipid bilayers I might need to review. Maybe that was new.

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 13 2019,07:47   

Testing...

  
Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 13 2019,07:48   

test 2...

  
Occam's Aftershave



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 16 2019,23:19   

The human shit stain Sal Cordova is now making a concerted effort to talk about himself over at Peaceful Science.  It's the same lies and bullshit he's been spreading for a decade but people aren't allowed to call him on it because that wouldn't be "peaceful".  Sal is taking full advantage of his new found freedom to lie and push his YEC stupidity.  I'm pretty much fed up with PS for allowing blatant liars like Sal a platform to preach as long as they lie politely.

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"CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way"
"All the evidence supports Creation baraminology"
"If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic."
"Jews and Christians are Muslims."

- Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

  
Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 17 2019,00:39   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Aug. 16 2019,21:19)
"... I'm pretty much fed up with PS for allowing blatant liars like Sal a platform to preach as long as they lie politely."

I tried twice to deal with Swamidass as a "moderator."

He is a flagrant creationist supporter. Regarding the posts I made exposing the lies and slanders by James Tour, Swamidass hacked threads to help cover for his "good friend" James Tour.

Edited by Dr.GH on Aug. 16 2019,22:40

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Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 17 2019,01:21   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Aug. 16 2019,21:19)
The human shit stain Sal Cordova is now making a concerted effort to talk about himself over at Peaceful Science.  It's the same lies and bullshit he's been spreading for a decade but people aren't allowed to call him on it because that wouldn't be "peaceful".  Sal is taking full advantage of his new found freedom to lie and push his YEC stupidity.  I'm pretty much fed up with PS for allowing blatant liars like Sal a platform to preach as long as they lie politely.

I did a search, and Sal has been scamming and spamming on Peaceful Science for months and months.

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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 17 2019,09:47   

Quote (Dr.GH @ Aug. 17 2019,01:21)
 
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Aug. 16 2019,21:19)
The human shit stain Sal Cordova is now making a concerted effort to talk about himself over at Peaceful Science.  It's the same lies and bullshit he's been spreading for a decade but people aren't allowed to call him on it because that wouldn't be "peaceful".  Sal is taking full advantage of his new found freedom to lie and push his YEC stupidity.  I'm pretty much fed up with PS for allowing blatant liars like Sal a platform to preach as long as they lie politely.

I did a search, and Sal has been scamming and spamming on Peaceful Science for months and months.

Sal has been posting there sporadically but in the last week started a few threads and posted many many times.  Supposedly he's trying to develop a "YEC/ID college level course" and like always is using the scientific rebuttals to his arguments to make up plausible sounding lies.  It's the same shit he's been doing for a decade.   Of course when that was pointed out the pro-science posts got censored.

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"CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way"
"All the evidence supports Creation baraminology"
"If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic."
"Jews and Christians are Muslims."

- Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 26 2019,12:17   

an atheist podcast I listen to was talking about a guy named a Doctor Todd Wood the other day and I couldn't recall ever hearing about this guy so I looked him up, this is interesting from his blog:

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The truth about evolution
September 30, 2009
I hope this doesn't turn into a rant, but it might. You have been warned.

Evolution is not a theory in crisis. It is not teetering on the verge of collapse. It has not failed as a scientific explanation. There is evidence for evolution, gobs and gobs of it. It is not just speculation or a faith choice or an assumption or a religion. It is a productive framework for lots of biological research, and it has amazing explanatory power. There is no conspiracy to hide the truth about the failure of evolution. There has really been no failure of evolution as a scientific theory. It works, and it works well.

I say these things not because I'm crazy or because I've "converted" to evolution. I say these things because they are true. I'm motivated this morning by reading yet another clueless, well-meaning person pompously declaring that evolution is a failure. People who say that are either unacquainted with the inner workings of science or unacquainted with the evidence for evolution. (Technically, they could also be deluded or lying, but that seems rather uncharitable to say. Oops.)

Creationist students, listen to me very carefully: There is evidence for evolution, and evolution is an extremely successful scientific theory. That doesn't make it ultimately true, and it doesn't mean that there could not possibly be viable alternatives. It is my own faith choice to reject evolution, because I believe the Bible reveals true information about the history of the earth that is fundamentally incompatible with evolution. I am motivated to understand God's creation from what I believe to be a biblical, creationist perspective. Evolution itself is not flawed or without evidence. Please don't be duped into thinking that somehow evolution itself is a failure. Please don't idolize your own ability to reason. Faith is enough. If God said it, that should settle it. Maybe that's not enough for your scoffing professor or your non-Christian friends, but it should be enough for you.

I think that's all I want to say today. Rant over.


linky

The good thing about the non-ID creationists is that they tend to be liars less often.

Edited by stevestory on Aug. 26 2019,13:19

   
Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 26 2019,13:13   

I think Todd Wood has been mentioned before on PT.

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 29 2019,11:42   

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According to self-identified “pro-life” advocates, the fundamental divide between those who want to outlaw abortion and those who want to keep it legal comes down to one question: when does life begin? Anti-abortion advocacy pushes the view that life begins at conception; the name of their movement carefully centers the conceit that opposition to abortion rights is simply about wanting to save human lives.

A new poll shows that’s a lie. The “pro-life” movement is fundamentally about misogyny.

A Supermajority/PerryUndem survey released this week divides respondents by their position on abortion, and then tracks their answers to 10 questions on gender equality more generally. On every question, anti-abortion voters were significantly more hostile to gender equity than pro-choice voters.


linky

   
Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 29 2019,12:27   

Quote (Henry J @ Aug. 26 2019,11:13)
I think Todd Wood has been mentioned before on PT.

Here is a PT comment on Todd Wood;
https://pandasthumb.org/archive....-h.html

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khan



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 29 2019,12:56   

Quote (stevestory @ Aug. 29 2019,12:42)
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According to self-identified “pro-life” advocates, the fundamental divide between those who want to outlaw abortion and those who want to keep it legal comes down to one question: when does life begin? Anti-abortion advocacy pushes the view that life begins at conception; the name of their movement carefully centers the conceit that opposition to abortion rights is simply about wanting to save human lives.

A new poll shows that’s a lie. The “pro-life” movement is fundamentally about misogyny.

A Supermajority/PerryUndem survey released this week divides respondents by their position on abortion, and then tracks their answers to 10 questions on gender equality more generally. On every question, anti-abortion voters were significantly more hostile to gender equity than pro-choice voters.


linky

fetus fetishists

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Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2019,13:06   

42 at last

https://boingboing.net/2019....es.html

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 07 2019,12:37   


   
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2019,09:54   

The ID loons are tired and boring. I just saw this idiot post on a political blog I hang out on. He might be more entertaining than them.

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Robert Landbeck says:
Wednesday, September 11, 2019 at 09:53

The time is coming to blow the Jesuits and their church right out of the water with what, ironically both science and religion thought was impossible: A literal PROOF of God for faith. And this is what I’m testing for myself at the moment.

The first wholly new interpretation for two thousand years of the Gospel and moral teaching of Christ has been published. Radically different from anything else we known from history or tradition. Redefining all primary elements including the very nature of Faith, the Word, Law, Baptism, the Trinity, the Holy Spirit and especially the Resurrection, this new moral teaching is predicated upon the ‘promise’ of a precise, predefined, predictable and repeatable experience of transcendent omnipotence and called ‘the first Resurrection’ in the sense that the Resurrection of Jesus was intended to demonstrate Gods’ willingness to reveal Himself and intervene directly into the natural world for those obedient to His Command, paving the way for access, by faith, to the power of divine Will and ultimate proof!

Thus ‘faith’ becomes an act of trust in action, the search along a defined path of strict self discipline, [a test of the human heart] to discover His ‘Word’ of a direct individual intervention into the natural world by omnipotent power that confirms divine will, law, command and covenant, which at the same time, realigns our mortal moral compass with the Divine, “correcting human nature by a change in natural law, altering biology, consciousness and human ethical perception beyond all natural evolutionary boundaries.” Thus is a man ‘created’ in the image and likeness of his Creator.

So like it or no, a new religious teaching, a moral wisdom not of human intellectual origin, transcending subjectivity, wholly testable by faith, meeting all Enlightenment criteria of direct, evidence based causation and definitive proof now exists, and carries all the implications that suggests. Nothing short of an intellectual, moral, spiritual and religious revolution is getting under way. To test or not to test, that is the question? More info at energon.org


Edited by stevestory on Sep. 11 2019,10:55

   
khan



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 11 2019,13:40   

...testable by faith...?

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That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad

Frequency is just the plural of wavelength...
-JoeG

  
khan



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 27 2019,13:37   

Had to post this somewhere.

https://cosm.technology/speaker....peakers

Designed by famed technology futurist, George Gilder, COSM will feature many of the great minds of our day.

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"It's as if all those words, in their hurry to escape from the loony, have fallen over each other, forming scrambled heaps of meaninglessness." -damitall

That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad

Frequency is just the plural of wavelength...
-JoeG

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 27 2019,17:52   

Quote (khan @ Sep. 27 2019,13:37)
Had to post this somewhere.

https://cosm.technology/speaker....peakers

Designed by famed technology futurist, George Gilder, COSM will feature many of the great minds of our day.

Hmmm… the list of speakers includes our own Dr. Dr. Bill Dembski, Dr. Robert J. Marks, and Peter "I want to use the blood of the underclass to preserve and sustain my life" Thiel. And this thing is "presented by" the Discovery Institute. "Early adopters" can get in for the low, low price of $1,450; "Laggards", however, must pay $1,950.

Wow! Such a bargain…

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 27 2019,22:28   

Quote (khan @ Sep. 27 2019,13:37)
Had to post this somewhere.

https://cosm.technology/speaker....peakers

Designed by famed technology futurist, George Gilder, COSM will feature many of the great minds of our day.

One of the speakers is Michael Kratsios, who is, wait for it...

CHIEF TECHNOLOGY OFFICER OF THE UNITED STATES


What the hell does that even mean???

  
Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 28 2019,01:27   

I am always impressed by the ability you guys demonstrate at finding this BullShit!!!!

You are all days ahead of me.

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khan



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2019,08:27   

Could someone more talented than I make up an advertisement for breakfast cereal:  "KF Grounded Oughts"

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"It's as if all those words, in their hurry to escape from the loony, have fallen over each other, forming scrambled heaps of meaninglessness." -damitall

That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad

Frequency is just the plural of wavelength...
-JoeG

  
Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2019,08:43   

Flavored with potassium fluoride?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2019,09:37   

Quote (Henry J @ Oct. 22 2019,08:43)
Flavored with potassium fluoride?

Possibly "taste" rather than "flavour". Potassium fluoride apparently has a "sharp, saline taste".

So perhaps, it would be more appropriate to consider "salted nuts".

There is a ready supply of the ingredients at UD.

  
khan



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 07 2019,03:45   

Phillip Johnson has died.

https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019.......s-at-79

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"It's as if all those words, in their hurry to escape from the loony, have fallen over each other, forming scrambled heaps of meaninglessness." -damitall

That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad

Frequency is just the plural of wavelength...
-JoeG

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 29 2019,17:39   

poll: majority of Republicans think Trump is a better president than Lincoln

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 29 2019,22:08   

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ET
November 29, 2019 at 3:26 pm
Sven Mil, If all you can do is misrepresent ID and not produce any evidence for your position, why even bother? It is obvious that you don’t know what science is. You are clearly a willfully ignorant troll.

How long before Joke accuses Sven of being me?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 27 2019,12:44   

Well, I'm back.  Went away for a while, and actually JohnW's gone away for good.  Hang on a minute...

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 22 2020,23:15   

I need some sane inputs and discussion.

Seriously.

I am hung with three evo-creato papers. One is Armitage's bullshit dino soft-tissue lies. Then is my years long hanging paper "Intelligent Design Hammered and Screwed," on the fake "specified complexity" claim compared to non-human ape, and monkey, and bird hammers, complex human hammers, and then the ancient and weird history of screws and screw drivers.

Then there is a recent obsession of demonstrating a racemic origin of life. My blog post in 2008 made the basic claim. Resent reading since the James Tour BS lecture I slammed has led to an absurdly too long paper, "Racemases and the Origin of Life." 27 pages. Mostly Bibliography. TOO LONG.

And is it entirely original?  I only use primary literature, but do not have "original" labs.

TOPOFF: Even Humans need D-amino acids. Specifically, d-serine. We have an enzyme that coverts L-serine to D-serine. Why/how could evolution discover a reason to convert an ordinary amino acid to a "lethal" amino acid?

First hint:
http://stonesnbones.blogspot.com/2008....ne.html

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2020,16:00   

There is a God: her name is Loki....

How forgers fooled the Bible museum with fake Dead Sea Scroll fragments

   
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