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Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,20:51   

Quote (brobotsb2 @ Jan. 06 2011,21:14)
now we are going to bury you...

I'm not exactly getting the buzz of credibility here...



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MadPanda, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,20:59   

Quote (Badger3k @ Jan. 06 2011,17:37)
Quote (Robin @ Jan. 06 2011,13:38)
Quote (IBelieveInGod @ Jan. 06 2011,10:56)

 
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Did you read the link that I posted?


I read the error-filled link. The problem is, once again you aren't paying attention. Neither Mao Zadong nor Stalin killed in the name of atheism. Hitler, OTOH, actually killed in the name of Christianity.  D'Souza, once again, just demonstrates his ignorance.

He used D'Souza?  Crap, that error-filled tome is strong enough to fertilize the Midwest, but the stench would take weeks to dissipate.  No wonder he's confused.

D'Souza's qualifications on this entire topic are (how do I put this kindly?) less than stellar.  Quoting him on anything is like citing Deepak Chopra as an authority on quantum physics.


The MadPanda, FCD

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Wolfhound



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,21:04   

Quote (brobotsb2 @ Jan. 06 2011,21:14)
you people really need to add comment moderation to your forum of BS...



now we are going to bury you...


And the lesson from all of this? DOUBLE!


http://www.headlinezone.com/index.php?showtopic=18354

and the bottom!


Serves Em Right, eh, Randi...


http://www.randi.org/site....ht.html

Once again, so sorry about your small penis, Davey.

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MadPanda, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,21:09   

Is 'small' a sufficient word for the organ in question?  I should think the words 'limp' or 'flaccid' as well as 'ridiculous' might apply...or so I hear from the few persons who count as credible witnesses whenever they can stop laughing long enough to answer questions.


The MadPanda, FCD

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Stanton



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,21:17   

Quote (MadPanda, FCD @ Jan. 06 2011,21:09)
Is 'small' a sufficient word for the organ in question?  I should think the words 'limp' or 'flaccid' as well as 'ridiculous' might apply...or so I hear from the few persons who count as credible witnesses whenever they can stop laughing long enough to answer questions.


The MadPanda, FCD

"Atrophied" is a far better descriptor.

We are talking about the brain, yes?

  
MadPanda, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,21:19   

Quote (brobotsb2 @ Jan. 06 2011,21:09)
At least we're on the same page...

Correction:

We are not on the same page, in the same book, on the same topic, in the same library.  You are an utter nutball, so far around the proverbial twist that we could use you to decant bottles of wine.  You give nobody more pleasure than when you fall silent and depart, and your presence here serves no purpose whatsoever beyond providing an extraordinarily easy target for those who delight in plinking away at a hapless moron squirming in a pool of his own noxious juices.

See someone about upping the meds you ought to be taking for your condition and leave the stupidity to the merely delusional like your muppet pastor Biggy.


The MadPanda, FCD

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MadPanda, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,21:20   

Quote (Stanton @ Jan. 06 2011,21:17)
 
Quote (MadPanda @ FCD,Jan. 06 2011,21:09)
Is 'small' a sufficient word for the organ in question?  I should think the words 'limp' or 'flaccid' as well as 'ridiculous' might apply...or so I hear from the few persons who count as credible witnesses whenever they can stop laughing long enough to answer questions.


The MadPanda, FCD

"Atrophied" is a far better descriptor.

We are talking about the brain, yes?

Uhm...yes?


The MadPanda, FCD

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MadPanda, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,21:24   

Quote (brobotsb2 @ Jan. 06 2011,21:21)
 
Quote (MadPanda @ FCD,Jan. 06 2011,21:19)
 
Quote (brobotsb2 @ Jan. 06 2011,21:09)
At least we're on the same page...

Correction:

We are not on the same page, in the same book, on the same topic, in the same library.  You are an utter nutball, so far around the proverbial twist that we could use you to decant bottles of wine.  You give nobody more pleasure than when you fall silent and depart, and your presence here serves no purpose whatsoever beyond providing an extraordinarily easy target for those who delight in plinking away at a hapless moron squirming in a pool of his own noxious juices.

See someone about upping the meds you ought to be taking for your condition and leave the stupidity to the merely delusional like your muppet pastor Biggy.


The MadPanda, FCD

madpanda... we are actually going to torture and exterminate you, fucker...

you were at the WRONG PLACE at the WRONG TIME...

Did I strike a nerve, you cowardly imbecile?  Is it possible you are scared of me for some reason, you miserable vomit-faced wretch?  Or are you simply the sort of sick small-minded religious fanatic who enjoys giving people a reason to reject his supposed fantasies?

Don't answer that.  I already know what you are.  Your reputation precedes you, and you live down to it very effectively.


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Wolfhound



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,21:28   

LOL!  Crazy, stupid, dickless little fuckweasel creotard iz teh funeez!   :D

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MadPanda, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,21:37   

Quote (Wolfhound @ Jan. 06 2011,21:28)
LOL!  Crazy, stupid, dickless little fuckweasel creotard iz teh funeez!   :D

You forgot 'pathetic'.


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OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,22:12   

Those who can... do.

Those who cannot... post unintelligible putrid masses of cowardly nonsense on anonymous internet forums because they are too cowardly to come out from behind mommie's skirts.

What are you gonna do big guy?  Sit on me?  Make me read AiG?  Make me watch porn?  Oh darn...

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fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,22:24   

Quote (MadPanda, FCD @ Jan. 06 2011,19:09)
Is 'small' a sufficient word for the organ in question?  I should think the words 'limp' or 'flaccid' as well as 'ridiculous' might apply...or so I hear from the few persons who count as credible witnesses whenever they can stop laughing long enough to answer questions.


The MadPanda, FCD

not to mention "lonely" and "forgotten".

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Steverino



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,22:28   

Quote (brobotsb2 @ Jan. 06 2011,21:30)
Quote (Wolfhound @ Jan. 06 2011,21:28)
LOL!  Crazy, stupid, dickless little fuckweasel creotard iz teh funeez!   :D

wolfhound - we're going to exterminate you as well...

you are going to be a martyr for ATHEISM....

Dennis, when you look in the mirror, do you see the same pathetic individual that we do?

Honestly...failed photog career, people pointing and laughing behind your back, the inability to present a valid argument to support your emotional beliefs....

Must be awful...

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Wolfhound



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,23:13   

Quote (brobotsb2 @ Jan. 06 2011,22:30)
Quote (Wolfhound @ Jan. 06 2011,21:28)
LOL!  Crazy, stupid, dickless little fuckweasel creotard iz teh funeez!   :D

wolfhound - we're going to exterminate you as well...

you are going to be a martyr for ATHEISM....

Bring it on, Nutjob!  You and your Happy Henry vacuum cleaner don't scare me.  LAWL!

Seriously, does this dipshit actually think that his pathetic, empty threats and random links (I've never bothered to click on them, has anybody else?) in any way strikes terror into our hearts?  What a pathetic wanker.  Or, he would be had he a normal, functioning penis.  The pathetic part still stands (heh), regardless.

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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 06 2011,23:57   

Quote (brobotsb2 @ Jan. 06 2011,21:30)
 
Quote (Wolfhound @ Jan. 06 2011,21:28)
LOL!  Crazy, stupid, dickless little fuckweasel creotard iz teh funeez!   :D

wolfhound - we're going to exterminate you as well...

you are going to be a martyr for ATHEISM....

You do realize, you blasphemous nutcase, that you make your God look as crazy as you are.

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Stanton



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2011,00:03   

Quote (Dale_Husband @ Jan. 06 2011,23:57)
Quote (brobotsb2 @ Jan. 06 2011,21:30)
 
Quote (Wolfhound @ Jan. 06 2011,21:28)
LOL!  Crazy, stupid, dickless little fuckweasel creotard iz teh funeez!   :D

wolfhound - we're going to exterminate you as well...

you are going to be a martyr for ATHEISM....

You do realize, you blasphemous nutcase, that you make your God look as crazy as you are.

Dave Mabus doesn't care one bit, so long as he gets to (try and completely fail to) intimidate us with his inane murder fantasies that he is totally incapable of fulfilling.

If he could make good on his empty threats, then, bully for God.  If he can't, then he'll still have internet access.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2011,04:12   

Mocking the mentally negligible is fun and all but I want to read about the demons. Tell us how Satan is decieving us, IBIG. You know you want to.

Louis

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IBelieveInGod



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2011,07:12   

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IBIG!

You said, "Okay let’s see you create non-living matter from nothing, and then let’s see you create life from that non-living matter, and then I will talk with you:):):) If it is so easy for life to have come about from non-living matter without the intervention of a Creator, then it should be so much easier for science to CREATE life in a lab:):):) And I’m supposed to be delusional?"

How come the US government has granted a patent for ABIOGENESIS?

So talk to me. I've just shown you what you said can't be done.

I've never found where the US Government actually granted such a patent for abiogenesis, but even if it were true, why do you think it somehow proves abiogenesis actually occurred?

Abiogenesis isn't just improbable, I believe it is impossible!

  
oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2011,07:19   

Quote (IBelieveInGod @ Jan. 07 2011,07:12)
Abiogenesis isn't just improbable, I believe it is impossible!

Believe what you will, that is your right.

When you can provide actual evidence for your belief, let me know.

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IBelieveInGod



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2011,07:33   

Quote (Robin @ Jan. 06 2011,13:38)
[quote=IBelieveInGod,Jan. 06 2011,10:56][/quote]
 
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Did you read the link that I posted?


I read the error-filled link. The problem is, once again you aren't paying attention. Neither Mao Zadong nor Stalin killed in the name of atheism. Hitler, OTOH, actually killed in the name of Christianity.  D'Souza, once again, just demonstrates his ignorance.

Let's see, so if you kill groups of people for practicing their religion, then that is not killing in the name of Atheism? If a country prohibits the practice of any religion and kills any who do so, that is not killing in the name of Atheism? Next thing you will be supporting Mahmoud Ahmadinejad statement that the Holocaust never happen!!! You folks don't like history, and the fact that Atheist country do kill in the name of Atheism to create their not religious utopia, so you just revise it. You have to admit that people of faith in the USSR had to practice their religion in secrecy or be severely punished, it is still the same in China and many other Atheistic countries today.

Atheists like many here seem to think like John Lennon, that the answer to a utopia is no religion, therefore if it really came down to it many probably would have no qualms with doing whatever is necessary to stop people from practicing their faith, so that utopia would be possible.


The Soviet Union was the first state to have as an ideological objective the elimination of religion. Toward that end, the Communist regime confiscated church property, ridiculed religion, harassed believers, and propagated atheism in the schools. Actions toward particular religions, however, were determined by State interests, and most organized religions were never outlawed. It is estimated that 21 million Russian Orthodox Christians were martyred in the gulags by the Soviet government, not including torture or other Christian denominations killed.[63][unreliable source?]
Some actions against Orthodox priests and believers along with execution included torture being sent to prison camps, labour camps or mental hospitals.[44][64] The result of this militant atheism was to transform the Church into a persecuted and martyred Church. In the first five years after the Bolshevik revolution, 28 bishops and 1,200 priests were executed.[65]


Christ the Savior Cathedral Moscow after reconstruction
The main target of the anti-religious campaign in the 1920s and 1930s was the Russian Orthodox Church, which had the largest number of faithful. A very large segment of its clergy, and many of its believers, were shot or sent to labor camps. Theological schools were closed, and church publications were prohibited. In the period between 1927 and 1940, the number of Orthodox Churches in the Russian Republic fell from 29,584 to less than 500. Between 1917 and 1940, 130,000 Orthodox priests were arrested. The widespread persecution and internecine disputes within the church hierarchy lead to the seat of Patriarch of Moscow being vacant from 1925-1943.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians

  
Stanton



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2011,07:51   

You have to be an idiot to say that suppressing and oppressing other people because their religion offends you makes you an atheist.

You have ignored the very fact that the primary reason why Hitler was able convince so many people to help him commit genocide against the Jews was because there was a centuries old tradition of Anti-Semitism in place in German culture thanks directly due to the anti-Semitic rantings of Martin Luther, founder of Protestantism.

According to your inane logic, Martin Luther, and all Protestant Christians, and their offshoots, are all atheists.

Furthermore, we keep telling you that the Holocaust was perpetrated by Christians, not atheists.  For you to accuse us of agreeing with the Holocaust denial rhetoric of that moronic bigot of a puppet ruler of Iran is the depths of hypocrisy, what with you always screeching about we're allegedly putting words into your mouth.

And then there is the fact that Communist regimes suppress religion because the ruling elite establish cults of personality for their rulers, and see other religions as competition.

  
Stanton



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2011,07:55   

And IBelieve, you still haven't explained how abortions ties into with Atheism and the Nazis.

Among other things, because Adolf Hitler thought of "Aryan" women as being precious soldier factories, the Nazis prohibited abortion.  Also, being an atheist was grounds for arrest, and eventually, deportation to concentration camps.


And you haven't explained how or why Abortion is supposed to tie into Abiogenesis, either, beyond the fact that both offend your bigoted sensibilities.

Nor have you explained how or why Mullah Omar is supposed to be an Evil Atheist, despite the fact that it's a documented fact that he's a God-fearing Muslim.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2011,07:58   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Jan. 06 2011,11:29)
IBIG,
If abortion was illegal, as I presume you would like it to be, what would be your suggested punishment for those who have illegal abortions?

Miss this did you? It's all very well to say such things like abortion ==murder, but unless you are prepared to follow up with what the consequences would be then it's easy to assume the worst.

So, IBIG, unless you come out and say what punishment women who have abortions should receive I'll assume you want a biblical punishment.

I.E. Stoning.

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
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Stanton



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2011,07:58   

Quote (IBelieveInGod @ Jan. 07 2011,07:12)
Quote (prong_hunter @ Jan. 06 2011,18:13)
IBIG!

You said, "Okay let’s see you create non-living matter from nothing, and then let’s see you create life from that non-living matter, and then I will talk with you:):):) If it is so easy for life to have come about from non-living matter without the intervention of a Creator, then it should be so much easier for science to CREATE life in a lab:):):) And I’m supposed to be delusional?"

How come the US government has granted a patent for ABIOGENESIS?

So talk to me. I've just shown you what you said can't be done.

I've never found where the US Government actually granted such a patent for abiogenesis, but even if it were true, why do you think it somehow proves abiogenesis actually occurred?

Abiogenesis isn't just improbable, I believe it is impossible!

And you still haven't explained to us why we must be forced to believe that you know more about science than all of the scientists in the whole wide world, simply because you "believe"

Explain to us why saying "God spoke the laws into existence" is supposed to be more scientific than actual science, and explain to us how saying "God spoke the laws into existence" is supposed to be different than saying "God magically poofed the world into existence"

  
Stanton



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2011,08:01   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Jan. 07 2011,07:58)
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Jan. 06 2011,11:29)
IBIG,
If abortion was illegal, as I presume you would like it to be, what would be your suggested punishment for those who have illegal abortions?

Miss this did you? It's all very well to say such things like abortion ==murder, but unless you are prepared to follow up with what the consequences would be then it's easy to assume the worst.

So, IBIG, unless you come out and say what punishment women who have abortions should receive I'll assume you want a biblical punishment.

I.E. Stoning.

Ironically, according to the Bible, the punishment for abortion is to have the causer pay the pregnant woman 11 shekels for each month she was pregnant, or give her a livestock of equal value.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2011,08:06   

Quote (IBelieveInGod @ Jan. 07 2011,07:33)
The Soviet Union was the first state to have as an ideological objective the elimination of religion. Toward that end, the Communist regime confiscated church property, ridiculed religion, harassed believers, and propagated atheism in the schools.

It seems that religion is doing that right now to itself.

I mean, several dioceses are having to make themselves bankrupt due to having to pay for allowing child abusers to abuse children.

confiscated church property - Sold to pay victims of abuse - check.

ridiculed religion - Child abusers protected by the church? A better way to ridicule the idea of religion I've yet to see.

harassed believers - Church in-fighting is not exactly new now is it? Unless a believer believes exactly what you believe they are not a believer after all, right IBIG? And of course, churches are known to harass their own believers should they stray outside of the accepted norms by divorcing, having a child without being married etc. If anybody is harrasing believers it's other believers.

propagated atheism in the schools - Unlike of course the many documented instances of teachers promoting religion (usually a very specific religion) in school.

So, you lose sucka.

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phhht



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2011,08:17   

Quote (IBelieveInGod @ Jan. 07 2011,07:12)
Abiogenesis isn't just improbable, I believe it is impossible!

Poofster,

Once there was no life.  Now there is life. Therefore abiogenesis is not only possible, it has demonstrably occurred.

As usual, your contention is confused and your explication off the target.

I understand you to mean that abiogenesis could not occur without the
intervention of a magical power.  Is that more correct?

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Stanton



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2011,08:17   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Jan. 07 2011,08:06)
So, you lose sucka.

IBelieve already lost the very day he came to Panda's Thumb, screeching and picking fights about how he was able to magically disprove Abiogenesis by quotemining Wikipedia.

He's been bottoming out ever since.

  
IBelieveInGod



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2011,08:28   

Quote (Stanton @ Jan. 07 2011,07:51)
You have to be an idiot to say that suppressing and oppressing other people because their religion offends you makes you an atheist.

You have ignored the very fact that the primary reason why Hitler was able convince so many people to help him commit genocide against the Jews was because there was a centuries old tradition of Anti-Semitism in place in German culture thanks directly due to the anti-Semitic rantings of Martin Luther, founder of Protestantism.

According to your inane logic, Martin Luther, and all Protestant Christians, and their offshoots, are all atheists.

Furthermore, we keep telling you that the Holocaust was perpetrated by Christians, not atheists.  For you to accuse us of agreeing with the Holocaust denial rhetoric of that moronic bigot of a puppet ruler of Iran is the depths of hypocrisy, what with you always screeching about we're allegedly putting words into your mouth.

And then there is the fact that Communist regimes suppress religion because the ruling elite establish cults of personality for their rulers, and see other religions as competition.

You evidently have a problem with reading comprehension.

Read these:

"The Soviet Union was the first state to have as an ideological objective the elimination of religion."

"Toward that end, the Communist regime confiscated church property, ridiculed religion, harassed believers, and propagated atheism in the schools."

"It is estimated that 21 million Russian Orthodox Christians were martyred in the gulags by the Soviet government"

"Some actions against Orthodox priests and believers along with execution included torture being sent to prison camps, labour camps or mental hospitals.[44][64] The result of this militant atheism was to transform the Church into a persecuted and martyred Church. In the first five years after the Bolshevik revolution, 28 bishops and 1,200 priests were executed.[65]"

My logic? It was stated here that no country killed in the name of Atheism! I just proved that point wrong, and if you want I could continue on to more Atheist countries that have killed in the name of Atheism.

I have freely admitted that countries have killed in the name of Religion. So, don't try to change the subject with what you call my inane logic. The point of contention here was that no country has ever killed in the name of Atheism! And since I have freely admitted that countries have killed in the name of Religion, then it is inane for you to even bring up something in this argument that I agree actually happened. I freely admit that many have killed and done awful things in the name of Religion, so why are you even bring up such claims? Could it be that you are attempting to deflect from the fact that Atheist countries have killed in the name of Atheism?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 07 2011,08:53   

Hey, IBIG,

You still haven't answered the question: Are those other 37,999 Christian religions all wrong?  Which Bible do you use and why?  Have you read any other Bible?

Now, let's see... so let's see if I understand your argument correctly... which of these is true...

1) Christians kill others (even after "Thou shalt not kill", "turn the other cheek", "Do unto others...", and the "peace of God")

2) Atheists kill others

3) Other religions kill others

4) It's OK that Christians have killed others because atheists have too.

5) There is not a higher standard for Christians that for non-Christians.  (Or, if you prefer, Christians don't have to live up to Christ's standards, they'll be forgiven after all.)

What's very interesting, IBIG, is you have totally destroyed your previous argument that there is a universal morality.  LOL

Thanks

As far as the Communist removal of religion.  I would disagree that it was based on atheism.  I would be perfectly willing to argue that Stalin wanted to get rid of religion for the sole purpose of cementing his control over the people.  His thoughts were that religion was 'another master' and that he would not be able to control people that also had religion (which, indeed, was true).

Again, I don't think it was a case of killing people solely because they were religious, but because they refused to denounce their religion in the name of the state... much like Christians in Rome were killed because they refused to recognize the god-hood of the emperor.

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