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N.Wells Posts: 1836 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 06 2016,16:09    Quote (GaryGaulin @ Dec. 05 2016,23:52) Tragically, that may be the most grammatically correct and intelligible post that you've made since you started here.

GaryGaulin Posts: 5385 Joined: Oct. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 06 2016,16:29    Quote (fnxtr @ Dec. 06 2016,14:37) Way to elevate the discourse, there, GinGout.   Stay classy, buddy! The image came from Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_finger It's hard to be more classy than that. -------------- The theory of intelligent design holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.

Tony M Nyphot Posts: 492 Joined: June 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 06 2016,17:56    Quote (GaryGaulin @ Dec. 05 2016,19:56) Now that things are going great at Reddit and elsewhere I may soon need to stop posting in this cesspool of a forum. I had enough arguing with assholes. Responses to Gary proving "things are going great* at Reddit”:           Quote Mnementh2230 8 points 7 hours ago ... If you don't even know that much, I'd recommend you go do some basic reading on the topic before coming back here, because all you're doing now is embarrassing yourself.           Quote Mnementh2230 1 point 13 minutes ago … Like I said, Darwin got a lot wrong about evolutionary theory. That doesn't matter in the least to modern evolutionary theory. The only people who would make that mistake are people like you, who don't understand the scientific process.           Quote apostoli 1 point 18 minutes ago |pompous Please. It would help if you would enlighten this community with a coherent yet concise presentation of your views on the subject, instead of pissing everybody off with incoherent inane comments.           Quote DarwinZDF42 1 point 3 days ago I don't really know what point you're making.           Quote DarwinZDF42[S] 11 points 10 hours ago As usual, I have no idea what point you're trying to make.           Quote VestigialPseudogene 5 points 9 hours ago I have seriously no idea what you're trying to say.           Quote coldfirephoenix 2 points 5 days ago I am sorry, but don't just guess answers and confidently present them as fact! …           Quote coldfirephoenix 2 points 5 days ago … Also, your "in a case like this" is not a case that exists, because you are building on a false premise. …           Quote coldfirephoenix 2 points 5 days ago … In fact, we can quite easily see that your answer is very wrong, ...           Quote coldfirephoenix 2 points 5 days ago ... I really do not mean to be rude, but you keep making claims to people with the certainty of someone, who knows what he's talking about, but you keep saying nonsense! …         Quote coldfirephoenix 2 points 5 days ago … If you do not know a lot about science, there is nothing wrong with that, and literally hundreds of people would leap at the chance to teach you almost anything you wanna know. But if you are going to act like you know stuff and then make nonsense up on the fly, you are trapping yourself in ignorance.           Quote coldfirephoenix 1 point 4 days ago ....you did not understand a word i was saying, did you? Because your answer does not relate to my response at all. ... I particularly like this one:           Quote coldfirephoenix 1 point 4 days ago ... It's like a child playing scientist, only in this case it's sad, because you seem to be an adult, trapped in their own delusion.           Quote coldfirephoenix 1 point 4 days ago I honestly think you might have some mental issues. You are the only one not seeing that your word salad are incoherent ravings with no connection to anything. ...           Quote coldfirephoenix 1 point 4 days ago … You don't understand science. I don't need to present you scientific evidence disproving something, that has never been proven, because it doesn't even make sense. What you are saying is basically something like "Show me scientific evidence that rules out that the color purple smells like anger." ...           Quote coldfirephoenix 1 point 4 days ago … First of all, even if your claim had made sense to begin with, the burden of proof would still be on you to support it, not on anyone else to prove it's not possible. That's how science works. But that's a moot point anyway, because your inital claim was utter nonsense. I explained how and why it was utter nonsense. Your response missed the entire point.           Quote Mnementh2230 2 points 4 days ago I'm with the other guys: you can't make logical connections or distinguish fantasy from reality. You need some serious mental help. I don't mean that maliciously, I mean that seriously.           Quote coldfirephoenix 1 point 4 days ago Are you for real? I just explained this to you. I explained WHY your idea lacks any plausible mechanism by which it could function. And I explained to you that YOU need to be able to support your claims in science, it's not up to anyone else to disprove them. That which is asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence. And of course you don't have any, because your claim doesn't even make sense. Gotta love this one:       Quote coldfirephoenix 2 points 4 days ago The thing is, I don't think he's trolling. I think he actually has mental problems. Read some of his post. Read his rambling, incoherent mess of a blog post he calls a theory (because he does not know what a theory is). I am not kidding, everything about him seem to be giant warning signs that he is literally unable to make logical connections, and to distinguish his fantasy world from the real one. I genuinely think, that in his head, this all makes sense.           Quote DarwinZDF42 2 points 4 days ago 1. I don't think you're using "emergent" correctly. 2. Nobody's claiming it was a "lucky accident." Read my long post at the top of the thread. Dispute as you like.           Quote DarwinZDF42 2 points 4 days ago "Prove a negative or you're a jerkface!" Are you five? Edited to add one more where Gary himself points out how great* things are going at Reddit: Quote GaryGaulin -1 points 4 hours ago What a bunch of snotty brats. If they can't get their way then they downvote you until all your replies disappear off the screen. Total creeps.. yellownumberfive 3 points 4 hours ago When you post something that isn't incoherent, irrelevant, whining, insulting or just plain wrong I'll be glad to upvote it. *for some values of great as defined by Gary...same as it ever was -------------- "I, OTOH, am an underachiever...I either pee my pants or faint dead away..." FTK "You could always wrap fresh fish in the paper you publish it on, though, and sell that." - Field Man on how to find value in Gary Gaulin's real-science "theory"

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 08 2016,14:25    coldfirephoenix is a badass. -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

GaryGaulin Posts: 5385 Joined: Oct. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 10 2016,14:57    Quote (Tony M Nyphot @ Dec. 06 2016,17:56) Responses to Gary proving "things are going great* at Reddit”: ......... *for some values of great as defined by Gary...same as it ever was That forum is now just one of the "power of science" powered bug-zappers, for large environments where collective intelligence dwells. The intelligence model and theory makes crazy sounding things like this possible. The teach the world to sing (in perfect harmony) is happening where all is illuminated by Illuminati: www.kurzweilai.net/forums/topic/anyone-help-me-out-with-some-genetics-theory#post-781772 -------------- The theory of intelligent design holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.

N.Wells Posts: 1836 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 11 2016,05:45    Quote That forum is now just one of the "power of science" powered bug-zappers, for large environments where collective intelligence dwells. The intelligence model and theory makes crazy sounding things like this possible. Ship of fools is more like it. Regarding the comment by DevilDocNowCiv, when Person A dumps a huge pile of nonsense on Person B, and Person B's only response is "Politely out of respect, I wish you the best with this", that was not a compliment.  It was politely backing away from a crazy person. You are still wrong about crocodiles.  Crocodilians vary in their behavior and are opportunistic and comparatively intelligent, but the fathers do not "learn to not eat the food she gathers" for the kids, and the mothers do not gather food for their young.  The mothers protect the young, for a while, by charging at anything or anyone that threatens the young.  The young start hunting independently for their food fairly soon after hatching.  Crocodilians swallow small food whole, but if they stash a large prey item to rot or several of them twist apart a large animal, eating can get messy and there may be lots of bits and pieces washing around for babies and other animals to profit from.  However, feeding in crocodilians is largely selfish, with individuals grabbing whatever they can for themselves, until they are sated.   (Also, adult crocodilians are not averse to eating baby crocodilians, it has not been shown that fathers recognize their young, and any one mother's clutch of eggs is likely to have been sired by multiple different fathers, despite attempts by males to stop other males from mating with "their" females, which are basically all the females that live in the area that they can control.)   More generally, why do you always persist in "opening your mouth and removing all doubt"?

GaryGaulin Posts: 5385 Joined: Oct. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 11 2016,17:48    Quote (N.Wells @ Dec. 11 2016,05:45)   Quote That forum is now just one of the "power of science" powered bug-zappers, for large environments where collective intelligence dwells. The intelligence model and theory makes crazy sounding things like this possible. Ship of fools is more like it. Regarding the comment by DevilDocNowCiv, when Person A dumps a huge pile of nonsense on Person B, and Person B's only response is "Politely out of respect, I wish you the best with this", that was not a compliment.  It was politely backing away from a crazy person. ............ I see another one of these, again: www.kurzweilai.net/forums/edit.php?id=782164 -------------- The theory of intelligent design holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.

GaryGaulin Posts: 5385 Joined: Oct. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 11 2016,17:52    Bad Link! Use this: www.kurzweilai.net/forums/topic/alex-jones-is-scary-and-hates-ray-kurzweil#post-782164 I am in a rush to catch up with science work. -------------- The theory of intelligent design holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.

Henry J Posts: 5787 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 11 2016,19:44    Quote More generally, why do you always persist in "opening your mouth and removing all doubt"? Because, that's why!

GaryGaulin Posts: 5385 Joined: Oct. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 12 2016,00:15    More info on how the "N=2ⁱ–1" formula may relate to the computer model: www.kurzweilai.net/forums/topic/n2%E2%81%B1%E2%80%931-this-algorithm-may-be-intelligence#post-782188 And Camp Peavy just sent me this about plants successfully foraging for light, by making predictions: phys.org/news/2016-12-smart-habits.html This is the best evidence I have seen. If true then figuring out how the system works now has a starting point. Also, I sent Bishop Coyner my best along with a link to the Christmas message to those who see no point at all to the holiday.  The primary science leader of the Connecticut Valley Atheists (who were here this summer for a field trip) has been fully informed, and is having a fun holiday too. Only thing needed now is a UMC somewhere between UConn and UMass to say "We can do that!" -------------- The theory of intelligent design holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 12 2016,09:02    Dibs -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

GaryGaulin Posts: 5385 Joined: Oct. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 14 2016,02:04    Illuminati (Cat) sighting! www.kurzweilai.net/forums/topic/my-java-ai-programs -------------- The theory of intelligent design holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.

GaryGaulin Posts: 5385 Joined: Oct. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2016,00:07    Another scientific misconception is biting the dust: www.kurzweilai.net/macaque-monkeys-have-the-anatomy-for-human-speech-so-why-cant-they-speak There goes another infamous "irreducibly complexity" argument into the dustbins of science history. But in case you missed it: www.reddit.com/r/DebateEvolution/comments/5imdql/how_to_propose_and_test_fly_a_bold_new_scientific/ This deserves a song! R.E.M. - It's The End Of The World www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0GFRcFm-aY -------------- The theory of intelligent design holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.

GaryGaulin Posts: 5385 Joined: Oct. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2016,00:20    Or I should say "irreducibly complex" or "irreducible complexity"? In either case: I'm glad IC arguments are soon to become a thing of the past. -------------- The theory of intelligent design holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.

N.Wells Posts: 1836 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2016,14:20    Gary (displaying total self-delusion) says   Quote I have a well respected cognitive model doing fine for teaching the basics of in-silico modeling of intelligent living things, including multicellular development caused at the genetic and cellular levels by self-learning systems as well. The phrase "intelligent cause" is this way put into scientific context, resulting in "evolution by intelligent cause" and "evolution by natural selection". ................... With all said: this model/theory turns the tables on a forum like this one that is used to ending up arguing in circles over Darwinian theory with those who believe "theory of intelligent design" needs that, when the opposite is true. What's left is what makes the theory fly in science, engineering and other fields where it's useful. This totally changes the game, in favor of ID, in a way that critics are scientifically powerless against. Others say stuff like Clockworkfrog     Quote You have never showed a good understanding of the terms "theory", "hypothesis", "prediction", "test", or "science". DarwinZDF42   Quote Does anyone have any idea what this means? zcleghern   Quote I've read his comments over the past few days. He refuses to talk about anything except in the context of his "theory" coldfirephoenix   Quote ............. His thought process is not always coherent and connected, so it's rather hard to recapitulate his actual position, but the closest thing would be: He believes in some sort of intelligently designed process, which kinda looks like evolution, but programmed by an intelligent designer. So, classical I.D. "guided evolution", just with a bunch of inconsistencies thrown in, because if you read his PDF, you'll notice that he starts building on factually nonsensical premises and keeps piling on word salad from there. VestigialPseudogene   Quote ........So my question then is, you do realize that your model does not have anything to do with how biologists try to model the real world, right? shaumar   Quote .........Again, no. This is presupposition, with the explicit goal to match facts to the pre-established conclusion, while disregarding anything that runs counter to this conclusion. Work on that, the rest of the post is empty words. shaumar   Quote That's not an answer, that's a cop out, and the preface already admits to being pseudoscience in the exact same way as the Discovery Institute does. Use your words to defend your 'theory', maybe you'll learn something from the criticisms that will surely follow. coldfirephoenix   Quote    I fear that in a major science journal it would easily be published. It would not, but don't take my word for it, send it in. Let them tell you. It is completely unpublishable on every account.    And having to come from them would totally devastate the Discovery Institute network's remaining credibility. That makes no sense whatsoever. You think (wrongly) your blogpost promoting intelligent design would be published in a major peer-reviewed paper, and THAT would hurt the credibility of the discovery institute, who (also wrongly) try to assert that promoting intelligent design is science?    Unfortunately the journal where Theory of Intelligent Design is supposed to be published in starts with who the author is affiliated with Oh, do I have good news for you: "Bio-complexity" is not a scientific peer-reviewed journal! Sending it in to them would not accomplish anything in the first place! You said you understand how peer-review works, but the fact that the one thing you want to send your blogpost to is not an actual peer-reviewed journal makes me doubt that. You do understand that it's not just a matter of someone deciding to publish a journal and then saying "We're gonna have all submission peer-reviewed expertly by scientists"? And what's even worse, "Bio-complexity" was founded with the premise of promoting intelligent design, it's another creationist front. So on all accounts, sending your word-salad to them would not accomplish anything. To get you started, here are some actual peer-reviewed scientific journals: Nature Biotechnology Current Opinion in Chemical Biology PLOS Biology If you genuinely think your gibberish is science, there should be no reason for you not to send it in. It won't get published, it won't even make it past the first barrier, but at least then you can snap out of this delusion that anything you are doing is even remotely related to science. As we've been saying, your stuff is not a theory, and doesn't rise to the level of worthwhile science, or even just "science", especially but not solely the incoherent word-salad stuff.  You'd get more out of doing almost anything else.

GaryGaulin Posts: 5385 Joined: Oct. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2016,18:41    So much for the observational skills of critics: www.reddit.com/r/DebateEvolution/comments/5j4twk/macaque_monkeys_have_the_anatomy_for_human_speech/dbehlk6/ What I bring to such a forum looks like this:     Quote [–]VestigialPseudogene 1 point 2 hours ago ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ a thousand times more fruitful and interesting than a lot of the loonies we get here, just like angeloitacare today. I appreciate it. www.reddit.com/r/DebateEvolution/comments/5j4twk/macaque_monkeys_have_the_anatomy_for_human_speech/dbec489/ ZZ Top- I'm Bad, I'm Nationwide (lyrics) www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIrhcOIYfA8 -------------- The theory of intelligent design holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.

jeffox Posts: 671 Joined: Oct. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 20 2016,18:23    More like The Trashmen's "Surfin' Bird" - it's about a loon, you know . . . . . .     Speaking of birds, YOU'RE STILL A HOOT!!!!!!!!!!

GaryGaulin Posts: 5385 Joined: Oct. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 20 2016,22:50    Quote Quote You mean inferring design based not on an objective examination of the natural world, but a computer model that I could code up in a week? You're on! I'll give you until next Wednesday to code your Occam's Razor simple as possible model for experimenting with unintelligent and intelligent behaviors of any kind including physics related applications, being tested in a hidden moving shock zone arena where 2 place avoidance (as in the neuroscience paper found in Notes folder that the arena is based upon) with necessary line chart indicating learning rate, success staying fed while avoiding getting zapped, internal conditions, etc.. What you end up with for a model would be a serious test for the model I for decades used. None better has ever been found better suited for motor/muscle controlled systems of any kind and at any size scale. You might be the first. You proposed a test that I cannot refuse. Now get to work on it! www.reddit.com/r/DebateEvolution/comments/5imdql/how_to_propose_and_test_fly_a_bold_new_scientific/dbfzujq/ -------------- The theory of intelligent design holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 20 2016,23:53    WHOOOOOSH!!! -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

N.Wells Posts: 1836 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 21 2016,06:40    Quote (GaryGaulin @ Dec. 20 2016,22:50) Quote   Quote You mean inferring design based not on an objective examination of the natural world, but a computer model that I could code up in a week? You're on! I'll give you until next Wednesday to code your Occam's Razor simple as possible model for experimenting with unintelligent and intelligent behaviors of any kind including physics related applications, being tested in a hidden moving shock zone arena where 2 place avoidance (as in the neuroscience paper found in Notes folder that the arena is based upon) with necessary line chart indicating learning rate, success staying fed while avoiding getting zapped, internal conditions, etc.. What you end up with for a model would be a serious test for the model I for decades used. None better has ever been found better suited for motor/muscle controlled systems of any kind and at any size scale. You might be the first. You proposed a test that I cannot refuse. Now get to work on it! www.reddit.com/r/DebateEvolution/comments/5imdql/how_to_propose_and_test_fly_a_bold_new_scientific/dbfzujq/ Egads, Gary. 1) Learn English 2) Learn science. 3) As always, your model has nothing to do with your assertions.

N.Wells Posts: 1836 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 23 2016,23:48    Quote I have to pass "peer review" every time I speak to others in a relevant field. That's much harder to do on a day to day basis than getting something published in a journal. First of all, that's not peer review.  It has next to nothing to do with peer review, and you have yet to experience anything even slightly close to peer review.   Second, for the sake of argument, let's suppose that your communications with people who actually know something about the subjects of your claims did qualify as peer review.  The comments have been uniformly negative and you have learned nothing from them.  So you have not "passed peer review". The closest you have come to peer review, you have failed miserably.  Do your family a favor and do something else.

GaryGaulin Posts: 5385 Joined: Oct. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 24 2016,00:21    Speaking of peer-review is this that ends with something new just added to the theory for helping to explain how the ID Lab critter works: www.reddit.com/r/DebateEvolution/comments/5k1pyd/video_how_neural_networks_actually_work_geoffrey/ -------------- The theory of intelligent design holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.

N.Wells Posts: 1836 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 24 2016,12:29    Gary at Reddit Quote This is further evidence that the ID Lab model tested operational definition used in the Theory of Intelligent Design is true. Egads what a load of tripe.  No, it's not evidence for your stuff.  No, operational definitions do not get "tested".  No, your nonsense is not a theory.  No, your nonsense is not true.   Quote    Behavior from a system or a device qualifies as intelligent by meeting all four circuit requirements that are required for this ability, which are: (1) A body to control, either real or virtual, with motor muscle(s) including molecular actuators, motor proteins, speakers (linear actuator), write to a screen (arm actuation), motorized wheels (rotary actuator). It is possible for biological intelligence to lose control of body muscles needed for movement yet still be aware of what is happening around itself but this is a condition that makes it impossible to survive on its own and will normally soon perish. (2) Random Access Memory (RAM) addressed by its sensory sensors where each motor action and its associated confidence value are stored as separate data elements. (3) Confidence (central hedonic) system that increments the confidence level of successful motor actions and decrements the confidence value of actions that fail to meet immediate needs. (4) Ability to guess a new memory action when associated confidence level sufficiently decreases. For flagella powered cells a random guess response is designed into the motor system by the reversing of motor direction causing it to “tumble” towards a new heading. For all the reasons long discussed here, which you have yet to address, let alone resolve, those four "requirements" are not actually requirements and don't make sense. Quote ...... Knowing how this relates to the four requirement operational definition (for obligatory theory of operation explaining how the ID Lab model works) should make it easy to understand what he is saying. You'll know what much of the jargon boils down to and where "Neural Networks" of the future are going. This is not something a science journal reviewer can give you. This is your personally being able to understand what this video is saying as it relates to the ID Lab models where the same is true. Your theory of operation sucks.  You still lack workable operational definitions for your key terms.

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 24 2016,19:08    Quote (N.Wells @ Dec. 24 2016,10:29) Gary at Reddit   Quote This is further evidence that the ID Lab model tested operational definition used in the Theory of Intelligent Design is true. Egads what a load of tripe.  No, it's not evidence for your stuff.  No, operational definitions do not get "tested".  No, your nonsense is not a theory.  No, your nonsense is not true.   Quote    Behavior from a system or a device qualifies as intelligent by meeting all four circuit requirements that are required for this ability, which are: (1) A body to control, either real or virtual, with motor muscle(s) including molecular actuators, motor proteins, speakers (linear actuator), write to a screen (arm actuation), motorized wheels (rotary actuator). It is possible for biological intelligence to lose control of body muscles needed for movement yet still be aware of what is happening around itself but this is a condition that makes it impossible to survive on its own and will normally soon perish. (2) Random Access Memory (RAM) addressed by its sensory sensors where each motor action and its associated confidence value are stored as separate data elements. (3) Confidence (central hedonic) system that increments the confidence level of successful motor actions and decrements the confidence value of actions that fail to meet immediate needs. (4) Ability to guess a new memory action when associated confidence level sufficiently decreases. For flagella powered cells a random guess response is designed into the motor system by the reversing of motor direction causing it to “tumble” towards a new heading. For all the reasons long discussed here, which you have yet to address, let alone resolve, those four "requirements" are not actually requirements and don't make sense. Quote ...... Knowing how this relates to the four requirement operational definition (for obligatory theory of operation explaining how the ID Lab model works) should make it easy to understand what he is saying. You'll know what much of the jargon boils down to and where "Neural Networks" of the future are going. This is not something a science journal reviewer can give you. This is your personally being able to understand what this video is saying as it relates to the ID Lab models where the same is true. Your theory of operation sucks.  You still lack workable operational definitions for your key terms. I don't have the time or the intestinal fortitude to chase Gary all over the web, but I have a question for those who do: does he ever link to ATBC and tell everyone how well he's doing here? -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

GaryGaulin Posts: 5385 Joined: Oct. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 25 2016,17:56    You can be certain that this forum now only qualifies as a toilet that's best to stay far away from. -------------- The theory of intelligent design holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.

Texas Teach Posts: 2084 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 25 2016,19:24    Quote (GaryGaulin @ Dec. 25 2016,17:56) You can be certain that this forum now only qualifies as a toilet that's best to stay far away from. And yet here you are.  You apparently aren't smart enough to avoid the shock zone. -------------- "Creationists think everything Genesis says is true. I don't even think Phil Collins is a good drummer." --J. Carr "I suspect that the English grammar books where you live are outdated" --G. Gaulin

Cubist Posts: 559 Joined: Oct. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 25 2016,20:09    Quote (GaryGaulin @ Dec. 25 2016,17:56) You can be certain that this forum now only qualifies as a toilet that's best to stay far away from. But you most certainly do not "stay far away from" this forum, Gaulin. Like, 20 posts this month alone. Hm. I'm curious, Gaulin: Whyever do you persist in participating in a "forum [which] qualifies as a toilet that's best to stay far away from"?

GaryGaulin Posts: 5385 Joined: Oct. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 25 2016,20:45    Quote (Cubist @ Dec. 25 2016,20:09)   Quote (GaryGaulin @ Dec. 25 2016,17:56) You can be certain that this forum now only qualifies as a toilet that's best to stay far away from. But you most certainly do not "stay far away from" this forum, Gaulin. Like, 20 posts this month alone. Hm. I'm curious, Gaulin: Whyever do you persist in participating in a "forum [which] qualifies as a toilet that's best to stay far away from"? I occasionally need to take a dump here, mostly for revenge I guess. But some might like this fresh air! Auli'i Cravalho - How Far I'll Go (From "Moana") www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPAbx5kgCJo My youngest daughter found it, and played it for me today. I thought I should share it here anyway. -------------- The theory of intelligent design holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.

GaryGaulin Posts: 5385 Joined: Oct. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 25 2016,21:01    And this one & 1:40 Alessia Cara - How Far I'll Go (Official Video) www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNra8eK0K6k -------------- The theory of intelligent design holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.

Tony M Nyphot Posts: 492 Joined: June 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 26 2016,19:29    Quote (JohnW @ Dec. 24 2016,18:08) I don't have the time or the intestinal fortitude to chase Gary all over the web, but I have a question for those who do: does he ever link to ATBC and tell everyone how well he's doing here? I don't go chasing Gary around the web, but occasionally follow the links he provides when attempting to make himself appear important. I don't recall that he has ever linked back to AtBC, where things are going greater* for him than anywhere else. I will say that recent interaction with Gary over at Reddit where "things are going great*" is quite entertaining and incisive as the following post speaking about Gary attests to.       Quote [–]paintheguru 1 point 2 hours ago I wanted to join the debate, but now I'm convinced the poster suffers from a serious mental illness. He seems to be trying to organize his feverish mind alongside a 1979 hobby robotics book. That's probably where he gets his "molecular intelligence" (bottom-up AI design), his obsession with RAM, and other concepts he misuses. The computer "model" is the most insane piece of code I've ever seen this side of TempleOS. Motors, stomach lining, and a reimplemented atan2 function, with a helpful comment that it behaves just like the library version, all crammed together in VB Forms. I wish we could get him to seek professional help. * again, for some values of great as defined by Gary -------------- "I, OTOH, am an underachiever...I either pee my pants or faint dead away..." FTK "You could always wrap fresh fish in the paper you publish it on, though, and sell that." - Field Man on how to find value in Gary Gaulin's real-science "theory"

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