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Robin Posts: 1431 Joined: Sep. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: June 23 2012,08:40    Quote (Dr. Jammer @ June 22 2012,15:00) The argument regarding the source of the information found in life. I.D. can explain it. Those who reject I.D. cannot. Tsk tsk tsk...an argument isn't evidence, Jam. Care to try again? Should be pretty simple if there's mountains of it...   Quote As of our current understanding, I.D. is the only evidential-based explanation for the origin of life. You keep repeating this line, but oddly you (and others) have yet to provide any of the so-called 'evidence'. And I got news for you on that score, Jammie - the vast majority of folk with IQs above temperature at which water freezes will reject your claim without it. -------------- we IDists rule in design for the flagellum and cilium largely because they do look designed.  Bilbo The only reason you reject Thor is because, like a cushion, you bear the imprint of the biggest arse that sat on you. Louis

dvunkannon Posts: 1377 Joined: June 2008 (Permalink) Posted: June 23 2012,11:00    Quote (Doc Bill @ June 22 2012,20:13) Is Jammer JoeG, or Josep, Mullens or FL? none of the above. Jammy is certainly a reader of UD, but if you look at who he likes there, it is Stephen B, nullasalus, and UprightBiped. That's the Catholic, smug wing of the big tent. Jammy himself is certainly smug and condescending. If he's a sock for any of the regulars at UD, my vote would be StephenB. -------------- I’m referring to evolution, not changes in allele frequencies. - Cornelius Hunter I’m not an evolutionist, I’m a change in allele frequentist! - Nakashima

Quack Posts: 1961 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: June 23 2012,11:03    Dr. Jammer, we miserable Darwinistas suffer from our insatiable thirst for facts and evidence. Since you have let it transpire that you know such things, would you be kind enough to open the door to enlightenment or are going to keep us in suspense indefinitely? The only thing we want from you and you refuse to give. Say then, why then are you here at all? -------------- Rocks have no biology.               Robert Byers.

Doc Bill Posts: 1039 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: June 23 2012,11:13    Quote All of it makes me feel like puking but the last paragraph especially. No comments are allowed on that article at ENV, as usual. Who's actually the coward? Who's actually fleeing from a fair fight? What's really bothering klinghoffer is that people are allowed to post challenging, dissenting comments at Amazon and he can't stop them. Klinkerklanker is being way too modest when he points out that his fellow creationist and scammer, Dougie Axywaxy, has published in a PEER-REVIEWED journal!  Yeah, take that, bitches! And not just Any PEER-REVIEWED Journal, but the esteemed B-I-O   C-O-M-P-L-E-X-I-T-Y (an unholy owned on-line journal of the Discovery Institute and Biologic Labs (also unholy owned by the Discovery Institute) whose managing director is Dougie Axywaxy and 40% of the articles written, reviewed, and peered at by Dougie Axywaxy, and that peering was really, really reviewed, I swear.)  Haven't these guys heard of Facebook? The remaining 60% of the articles "published" to date were written by members of the Editorial Board, a peeringly fine board of peers that ever peered at a review.  Srsly.

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 25 2012,22:55    Quote (Robin @ June 23 2012,06:40) Quote (Dr. Jammer @ June 22 2012,15:00) The argument regarding the source of the information found in life. I.D. can explain it. Those who reject I.D. cannot. Tsk tsk tsk...an argument isn't evidence, Jam. Care to try again? Should be pretty simple if there's mountains of it...   Quote As of our current understanding, I.D. is the only evidential-based explanation for the origin of life. You keep repeating this line, but oddly you (and others) have yet to provide any of the so-called 'evidence'. And I got news for you on that score, Jammie - the vast majority of folk with IQs above temperature at which water freezes will reject your claim without it. Fahrenheit or Celsius? -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

olegt Posts: 1405 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 26 2012,07:26    Quote (Doc Bill @ June 23 2012,11:13) Quote All of it makes me feel like puking but the last paragraph especially. No comments are allowed on that article at ENV, as usual. Who's actually the coward? Who's actually fleeing from a fair fight? What's really bothering klinghoffer is that people are allowed to post challenging, dissenting comments at Amazon and he can't stop them. Klinkerklanker is being way too modest when he points out that his fellow creationist and scammer, Dougie Axywaxy, has published in a PEER-REVIEWED journal!  Yeah, take that, bitches! And not just Any PEER-REVIEWED Journal, but the esteemed B-I-O   C-O-M-P-L-E-X-I-T-Y (an unholy owned on-line journal of the Discovery Institute and Biologic Labs (also unholy owned by the Discovery Institute) whose managing director is Dougie Axywaxy and 40% of the articles written, reviewed, and peered at by Dougie Axywaxy, and that peering was really, really reviewed, I swear.)  Haven't these guys heard of Facebook? The remaining 60% of the articles "published" to date were written by members of the Editorial Board, a peeringly fine board of peers that ever peered at a review.  Srsly. And with all that chummy peer review cycle, BIO-Complexity* only manages to eke out three papers a year! *What's with the all caps? Does BIO not mean biological? What's hiding behind these letters? Boring Intellectuals Online? Bozos In Overalls? Enquiring minds want to know. -------------- If you are not: Galapagos Finch please Logout »

Henry J Posts: 5787 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: June 26 2012,08:11    Quote (fnxtr @ June 25 2012,21:55) Fahrenheit or Celsius? I thought about saying that, but never got a round to-it.

Tracy P. Hamilton Posts: 1239 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 26 2012,10:23    Quote (olegt @ June 26 2012,07:26) Quote (Doc Bill @ June 23 2012,11:13)   Quote All of it makes me feel like puking but the last paragraph especially. No comments are allowed on that article at ENV, as usual. Who's actually the coward? Who's actually fleeing from a fair fight? What's really bothering klinghoffer is that people are allowed to post challenging, dissenting comments at Amazon and he can't stop them. Klinkerklanker is being way too modest when he points out that his fellow creationist and scammer, Dougie Axywaxy, has published in a PEER-REVIEWED journal!  Yeah, take that, bitches! And not just Any PEER-REVIEWED Journal, but the esteemed B-I-O   C-O-M-P-L-E-X-I-T-Y (an unholy owned on-line journal of the Discovery Institute and Biologic Labs (also unholy owned by the Discovery Institute) whose managing director is Dougie Axywaxy and 40% of the articles written, reviewed, and peered at by Dougie Axywaxy, and that peering was really, really reviewed, I swear.)  Haven't these guys heard of Facebook? The remaining 60% of the articles "published" to date were written by members of the Editorial Board, a peeringly fine board of peers that ever peered at a review.  Srsly. And with all that chummy peer review cycle, BIO-Complexity* only manages to eke out three papers a year! *What's with the all caps? Does BIO not mean biological? What's hiding behind these letters? Boring Intellectuals Online? Bozos In Overalls? Enquiring minds want to know. BIO-Complexity translated: Bible Institute of Complexity. Hat tip : Biola -------------- "Following what I just wrote about fitness, you’re taking refuge in what we see in the world."  PaV "The simple equation F = MA leads to the concept of four-dimensional space." GilDodgen "We have no brain, I don't, for thinking." Robert Byers

olegt Posts: 1405 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 26 2012,10:33    Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ June 26 2012,10:23) BIO-Complexity translated: Bible Institute of Complexity. Hat tip : Biola Or Breathtaking Inanity. Hat tip: Judge J. E. Jones, III. -------------- If you are not: Galapagos Finch please Logout »

Dr. Jammer Posts: 37 Joined: Feb. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: June 27 2012,19:28    Quote (Robin @ June 23 2012,09:40) Quote (Dr. Jammer @ June 22 2012,15:00) The argument regarding the source of the information found in life. I.D. can explain it. Those who reject I.D. cannot. Tsk tsk tsk...an argument isn't evidence, Jam. Care to try again? Should be pretty simple if there's mountains of it...   Quote As of our current understanding, I.D. is the only evidential-based explanation for the origin of life. You keep repeating this line, but oddly you (and others) have yet to provide any of the so-called 'evidence'. And I got news for you on that score, Jammie - the vast majority of folk with IQs above temperature at which water freezes will reject your claim without it. The argument for the semiotic language/information of life. Every time I've seen it used, whether by Upright Biped, kairosfocus, Stephen C. Meyer, or otherwise, it's called Darwinists to grow red in the face and bluster about how they don't understand information, or semiotics, or they'll plead to blind faith in natural forces. "We don't know yet, but we'll get there!" It is a very powerful argument on par with a scientific law. All know examples arise from an intelligence. Wanna falsify I.D.? Prove nature can do what you need it to. I don't think you can do it, chump. lol. -------------- Luskin destroys Talk Origins. | Dawkins runs scared. | Upright Biped scares off Moran

Dr. Jammer Posts: 37 Joined: Feb. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: June 27 2012,19:32    Sleazy Ken Miller is at it again. Science and Religion at the Portsmouth Institute - Evolution News & Views He may be the world's worst Liar for Darwin. I believe his dishonesty trumps that of Dawkins, Matzke, and even you illiterate, pockmarked basement-dwellers. Kudos to William Dembski for calling this little bitch out on his bullshit. I eagerly await the day where Dembski slaps the yellow off of his teeth for all of his lies. -------------- Luskin destroys Talk Origins. | Dawkins runs scared. | Upright Biped scares off Moran

OgreMkV Posts: 3668 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: June 27 2012,20:00    Quote (Dr. Jammer @ June 27 2012,19:28) Quote (Robin @ June 23 2012,09:40) Quote (Dr. Jammer @ June 22 2012,15:00) The argument regarding the source of the information found in life. I.D. can explain it. Those who reject I.D. cannot. Tsk tsk tsk...an argument isn't evidence, Jam. Care to try again? Should be pretty simple if there's mountains of it...     Quote As of our current understanding, I.D. is the only evidential-based explanation for the origin of life. You keep repeating this line, but oddly you (and others) have yet to provide any of the so-called 'evidence'. And I got news for you on that score, Jammie - the vast majority of folk with IQs above temperature at which water freezes will reject your claim without it. The argument for the semiotic language/information of life. Every time I've seen it used, whether by Upright Biped, kairosfocus, Stephen C. Meyer, or otherwise, it's called Darwinists to grow red in the face and bluster about how they don't understand information, or semiotics, or they'll plead to blind faith in natural forces. "We don't know yet, but we'll get there!" It is a very powerful argument on par with a scientific law. All know examples arise from an intelligence. Wanna falsify I.D.? Prove nature can do what you need it to. I don't think you can do it, chump. lol. Already done.  Look around. As far as information, I may have already challenged you on that one.  If not, it's because you never have responded to any of my other questions. You define information and EXACTLY how it is measured in terms of living things and I will prove to you, mathematically, that increases in information can occur... however you choose to define information. However, you won't do it.  You won't because you can't.  No one in the ID movement has ever defined information and stuck to it. Their definition of information is almost as variable as their definition of intelligent design itself. So, tell me how you define information and how it is to be measured and I will provide you mathematical and physical evidence that increases in information occur without intelligent input. I'm waiting. BTW: How are you coming on those other questions I asked of you? -------------- Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims. http://skepticink.com/smilodo....retreat

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: June 27 2012,20:12    Interesting article by Dembski. His new version of his departure from the defense team is incompatible with what TMLC submitted in court documents during the case. His suggestion that a round of debates with lawyers involved would be a suitable rematch fails to convince. Was TMLC incompetent? I certainly couldn't muster much enthusiasm for taking the negative on that, but Dembski's alternative of shining legal splendor didn't do so well in the Kansas Kangaroo Court of 2005, and at the time he was on the privileged side of the aisle. No, I think an essential feature of the Kitzmiller case was the legal system's ability not merely to subpoena people, but to make them actually respond to the questions that were asked, as the key to the whole thing. That would be missing from the sort of mock court Dembski fantasizes about now. I've long advocated the notion that in any future court case involving something where Dembski has been involved should have the plaintiffs subpoena Dembski as a hostile witness, specifically so that he can't be removed when the defense figures out just how large an embarrassment his participation would create. And I don't think Ken Miller needs a backup team to take on Dembski, Behe, and Meyer. I've seen Ken eviscerate the arguments posed by Behe on two separate occasions, and had the privilege to be on a panel with him when Dembski and Nelson were representing the DI. Dembski's notion that he has any hope in such a matchup goes well beyond simple delusion. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: June 27 2012,20:13    And, of course, comments are closed on Dembski's article. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

olegt Posts: 1405 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 27 2012,20:15    Quote (Dr. Jammer @ June 27 2012,19:32) Sleazy Ken Miller is at it again. Science and Religion at the Portsmouth Institute - Evolution News & Views He may be the world's worst Liar for Darwin. I believe his dishonesty trumps that of Dawkins, Matzke, and even you illiterate, pockmarked basement-dwellers. Kudos to William Dembski for calling this little bitch out on his bullshit. I eagerly await the day where Dembski slaps the yellow off of his teeth for all of his lies. Wasn't it Dembski who had a grandiose "Vise strategy" to interrogate teh Darwinists and then failed to show up at Kitzmiller v. Dover? -------------- If you are not: Galapagos Finch please Logout »

Doc Bill Posts: 1039 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: June 27 2012,21:06    I like "Dr." Jammer, a cute little creationist credential inflating peckerwood!  Such pure delusion. Dembski had his chance to shine at Kitzmiller.  TMLC had the chance, with Dr. Dr. helping to apply the original Vice, later changed to Vise (spelling has never been a strength of Dembski, well, along with all intellectual disciplines) to the Darwinidiots, alas, fail. Dembski sat in on Barbara Forrest's deposition and by all accounts nearly passed out and threw up.  Barbara had his ass nailed to the wall and he knew it.  Dembski ran back to the Motel 6, packed his bags and didn't even leave the light on.  There was this great whooshing sound as Dr. Dr. beat cheeks out of town. Of course, little peckerwood, you were only in the 5th grade at that time so how would you know anything about shinola, hmmm? Consider this, "Dr." Peckerwood, big bad "intelligent design" creationism heavyweight double-doctor Dembski, adult and all that, is still going whaaaaaa-whaaaaaa about a trial he didn't even participate in that happened SEVEN FREAKING YEARS AGO!  But, who knows, maybe he has some microscopic Christian-ish trace of a conscience that nags him about what a lying coward he is.  By the way, I wonder if he drank that bottle of scotch?  That's probably nagging him, too.

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: June 27 2012,21:21    Yes, it was Dembski who proposed the "Vise Strategy" with the accompanying photo of a Darwin stuffed toy with its head being compressed in a vise. This was not long after PT started posting photos of Prof. Steve Steve as its mascot. The creepy-factor of Dembski's foray into what he now asserts himself as an attempt at humor was immense (perhaps getting into the range of large numbers like the Dmb). I already said my piece on the fabulous disappearing witnesses of the defense at the Kitzmiller trial. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: June 27 2012,21:33    Quote (Doc Bill @ June 27 2012,21:06) I like "Dr." Jammer, a cute little creationist credential inflating peckerwood!  Such pure delusion. Dembski had his chance to shine at Kitzmiller.  TMLC had the chance, with Dr. Dr. helping to apply the original Vice, later changed to Vise (spelling has never been a strength of Dembski, well, along with all intellectual disciplines) to the Darwinidiots, alas, fail. Dembski sat in on Barbara Forrest's deposition and by all accounts nearly passed out and threw up.  Barbara had his ass nailed to the wall and he knew it.  Dembski ran back to the Motel 6, packed his bags and didn't even leave the light on.  There was this great whooshing sound as Dr. Dr. beat cheeks out of town. Of course, little peckerwood, you were only in the 5th grade at that time so how would you know anything about shinola, hmmm? Consider this, "Dr." Peckerwood, big bad "intelligent design" creationism heavyweight double-doctor Dembski, adult and all that, is still going whaaaaaa-whaaaaaa about a trial he didn't even participate in that happened SEVEN FREAKING YEARS AGO!  But, who knows, maybe he has some microscopic Christian-ish trace of a conscience that nags him about what a lying coward he is.  By the way, I wonder if he drank that bottle of scotch?  That's probably nagging him, too. I don't know, one can buy rather a large number of bottles of good single-malt scotch with over $20,000 in fees extracted out of a group of people who fired you. Choosing between narratives of selfless heroism (protecting the interests of the Foundation for Thought and Ethics) and persecution (evil Darwinists hounded me or incompetent lawyers fired me!) might become a bit blurred, let alone the question of whether to deprive folks putatively on your own side of that much working capital. Hmmm, somebody ought to forward Dembski's article to Richard Thompson of TMLC to see whether he agrees with Dembski's assessment of his legal acumen. Who knows, maybe Thompson could figure out a way ("defamation" might be a relevant keyword) to get back his $20,000+. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

Cubist Posts: 559 Joined: Oct. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: June 27 2012,21:53    Quote (Dr. Jammer @ June 27 2012,19:28) The argument for the semiotic language/information of life. ... It is a very powerful argument on par with a scientific law. All know examples arise from an intelligence. As far as I know, "all known examples" of "semiotic language/information" come from human intelligence, unless you want to count apes that have been taught to use sign language (i.e., Ko-Ko). Therefore, by your own line of reasoning, the "semiotic language/information" which occurs in living bodies must have originally been created by a human (or possibly primate) Intelligent Designer.

dvunkannon Posts: 1377 Joined: June 2008 (Permalink) Posted: June 27 2012,21:58    Quote (Dr. Jammer @ June 27 2012,20:32) Sleazy Ken Miller is at it again. Science and Religion at the Portsmouth Institute - Evolution News & Views He may be the world's worst Liar for Darwin. I believe his dishonesty trumps that of Dawkins, Matzke, and even you illiterate, pockmarked basement-dwellers. Kudos to William Dembski for calling this little bitch out on his bullshit. I eagerly await the day where Dembski slaps the yellow off of his teeth for all of his lies. Jammy's rhetoric has definitely slipped several notches downhill towards JoeG quality poop-throwing. I guess it is the stress of ot answering all those questions. Perhaps his UD heroes will come here and help him out. Nah, probably not. -------------- I’m referring to evolution, not changes in allele frequencies. - Cornelius Hunter I’m not an evolutionist, I’m a change in allele frequentist! - Nakashima

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: June 27 2012,22:03    Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ June 28 2012,05:33) Quote (Doc Bill @ June 27 2012,21:06) I like "Dr." Jammer, a cute little creationist credential inflating peckerwood!  Such pure delusion. Dembski had his chance to shine at Kitzmiller.  TMLC had the chance, with Dr. Dr. helping to apply the original Vice, later changed to Vise (spelling has never been a strength of Dembski, well, along with all intellectual disciplines) to the Darwinidiots, alas, fail. Dembski sat in on Barbara Forrest's deposition and by all accounts nearly passed out and threw up.  Barbara had his ass nailed to the wall and he knew it.  Dembski ran back to the Motel 6, packed his bags and didn't even leave the light on.  There was this great whooshing sound as Dr. Dr. beat cheeks out of town. Of course, little peckerwood, you were only in the 5th grade at that time so how would you know anything about shinola, hmmm? Consider this, "Dr." Peckerwood, big bad "intelligent design" creationism heavyweight double-doctor Dembski, adult and all that, is still going whaaaaaa-whaaaaaa about a trial he didn't even participate in that happened SEVEN FREAKING YEARS AGO!  But, who knows, maybe he has some microscopic Christian-ish trace of a conscience that nags him about what a lying coward he is.  By the way, I wonder if he drank that bottle of scotch?  That's probably nagging him, too. I don't know, one can buy rather a large number of bottles of good single-malt scotch with over $20,000 in fees extracted out of a group of people who fired you. Choosing between narratives of selfless heroism (protecting the interests of the Foundation for Thought and Ethics) and persecution (evil Darwinists hounded me or incompetent lawyers fired me!) might become a bit blurred, let alone the question of whether to deprive folks putatively on your own side of that much working capital. Hmmm, somebody ought to forward Dembski's article to Richard Thompson of TMLC to see whether he agrees with Dembski's assessment of his legal acumen. Who knows, maybe Thompson could figure out a way ("defamation" might be a relevant keyword) to get back his $20,000+. How do you know they want it back? Maybe they paid him $20k to get rid of him. -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

keiths Posts: 2195 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 28 2012,00:14    Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ June 27 2012,19:33) Quote (Doc Bill @ June 27 2012,21:06) I like "Dr." Jammer, a cute little creationist credential inflating peckerwood!  Such pure delusion. Dembski had his chance to shine at Kitzmiller.  TMLC had the chance, with Dr. Dr. helping to apply the original Vice, later changed to Vise (spelling has never been a strength of Dembski, well, along with all intellectual disciplines) to the Darwinidiots, alas, fail. Dembski sat in on Barbara Forrest's deposition and by all accounts nearly passed out and threw up.  Barbara had his ass nailed to the wall and he knew it.  Dembski ran back to the Motel 6, packed his bags and didn't even leave the light on.  There was this great whooshing sound as Dr. Dr. beat cheeks out of town. Of course, little peckerwood, you were only in the 5th grade at that time so how would you know anything about shinola, hmmm? Consider this, "Dr." Peckerwood, big bad "intelligent design" creationism heavyweight double-doctor Dembski, adult and all that, is still going whaaaaaa-whaaaaaa about a trial he didn't even participate in that happened SEVEN FREAKING YEARS AGO!  But, who knows, maybe he has some microscopic Christian-ish trace of a conscience that nags him about what a lying coward he is.  By the way, I wonder if he drank that bottle of scotch?  That's probably nagging him, too. I don't know, one can buy rather a large number of bottles of good single-malt scotch with over $20,000 in fees extracted out of a group of people who fired you. Choosing between narratives of selfless heroism (protecting the interests of the Foundation for Thought and Ethics) and persecution (evil Darwinists hounded me or incompetent lawyers fired me!) might become a bit blurred, let alone the question of whether to deprive folks putatively on your own side of that much working capital. Hmmm, somebody ought to forward Dembski's article to Richard Thompson of TMLC to see whether he agrees with Dembski's assessment of his legal acumen. Who knows, maybe Thompson could figure out a way ("defamation" might be a relevant keyword) to get back his $20,000+. I think Dembski's given up hope for any future victories, and is focused on rewriting history instead. -------------- And the set of natural numbers is also the set that starts at 0 and goes to the largest number. -- Joe G Please stop putting words into my mouth that don't belong there and thoughts into my mind that don't belong there. -- KF

Doc Bill Posts: 1039 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: June 28 2012,00:42    Quote (keiths @ June 28 2012,00:14) Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ June 27 2012,19:33)   Quote (Doc Bill @ June 27 2012,21:06) I like "Dr." Jammer, a cute little creationist credential inflating peckerwood!  Such pure delusion. Dembski had his chance to shine at Kitzmiller.  TMLC had the chance, with Dr. Dr. helping to apply the original Vice, later changed to Vise (spelling has never been a strength of Dembski, well, along with all intellectual disciplines) to the Darwinidiots, alas, fail. Dembski sat in on Barbara Forrest's deposition and by all accounts nearly passed out and threw up.  Barbara had his ass nailed to the wall and he knew it.  Dembski ran back to the Motel 6, packed his bags and didn't even leave the light on.  There was this great whooshing sound as Dr. Dr. beat cheeks out of town. Of course, little peckerwood, you were only in the 5th grade at that time so how would you know anything about shinola, hmmm? Consider this, "Dr." Peckerwood, big bad "intelligent design" creationism heavyweight double-doctor Dembski, adult and all that, is still going whaaaaaa-whaaaaaa about a trial he didn't even participate in that happened SEVEN FREAKING YEARS AGO!  But, who knows, maybe he has some microscopic Christian-ish trace of a conscience that nags him about what a lying coward he is.  By the way, I wonder if he drank that bottle of scotch?  That's probably nagging him, too. I don't know, one can buy rather a large number of bottles of good single-malt scotch with over $20,000 in fees extracted out of a group of people who fired you. Choosing between narratives of selfless heroism (protecting the interests of the Foundation for Thought and Ethics) and persecution (evil Darwinists hounded me or incompetent lawyers fired me!) might become a bit blurred, let alone the question of whether to deprive folks putatively on your own side of that much working capital. Hmmm, somebody ought to forward Dembski's article to Richard Thompson of TMLC to see whether he agrees with Dembski's assessment of his legal acumen. Who knows, maybe Thompson could figure out a way ("defamation" might be a relevant keyword) to get back his $20,000+. I think Dembski's given up hope for any future victories, and is focused on rewriting history instead. Well, maybe Dr. Dr. will be successful at rewriting history. To date he's only been successful at getting himself fired from jobs!

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: June 28 2012,07:02    Reading Dembski's article in the voice of the "Ed Gruberman" character from the famous comedy sketch is just about perfect. "I wasn't ready. Now, try it now." -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

OgreMkV Posts: 3668 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: June 28 2012,11:00    Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ June 28 2012,07:02) Reading Dembski's article in the voice of the "Ed Gruberman" character from the famous comedy sketch is just about perfect. "I wasn't ready. Now, try it now." And Miller was the boot to the head. -------------- Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims. http://skepticink.com/smilodo....retreat

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 28 2012,11:01    Quote (Dr. Jammer @ June 27 2012,19:32) Sleazy Ken Miller is at it again. Science and Religion at the Portsmouth Institute - Evolution News & Views He may be the world's worst Liar for Darwin. I believe his dishonesty trumps that of Dawkins, Matzke, and even you illiterate, pockmarked basement-dwellers. Kudos to William Dembski for calling this little bitch out on his bullshit. I eagerly await the day where Dembski slaps the yellow off of his teeth for all of his lies. Oh, more "eagerly awaiting of the day." Want to bet a bottle of malt on that? (Overdone?) -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

Quack Posts: 1961 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: June 28 2012,12:09    I don't think he is an idiot, there must be *more* of some sort to that character! Quote It is a very powerful argument on par with a scientific law. All know examples arise from an intelligence. Wanna falsify I.D.? Prove nature can do what you need it to. I don't think you can do it, chump. lol. Wanna falsify ToE? Prove ID can do what you need it to. You can do? -------------- Rocks have no biology.               Robert Byers.

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: June 29 2012,08:16    Quote (Kristine @ June 28 2012,19:01)     Quote (Dr. Jammer @ June 27 2012,19:32) Sleazy Ken Miller is at it again. Science and Religion at the Portsmouth Institute - Evolution News & Views He may be the world's worst Liar for Darwin. I believe his dishonesty trumps that of Dawkins, Matzke, and even you illiterate, pockmarked basement-dwellers. Kudos to William Dembski for calling this little bitch out on his bullshit. I eagerly await the day where Dembski slaps the yellow off of his teeth for all of his lies. Oh, more "eagerly awaiting of the day." Want to bet a bottle of malt on that? ;) (Overdone?) Only if you slap that single malt on that bitch Dr(eck)Jammers yellow teeth. Whilst an athiest China can dock 2 rockets in space: On the dumb, drunk and stupid America sweatersville ID fundy podium circuit; Xstain evangalists carp on about Adam and Eve. Jesus,Joeseph and Mary were all partial to a drop according to that ID scientific journal AKA the Bible. Studies show teetotal ID proponents are specializing in pyramid selling intra anal cleaning products for stained teeth female dog blogists. -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

sparc Posts: 2089 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 01 2012,02:23    Casey Luskin on What Can YOU Do to Support Intelligent Design?   Quote liking Discovery Institute's Center for Science & Culture on Facebook of course If Casey thinks that 1.355 likes are impressive he should have a look at the NCSE's facebook pages   Quote You could also become a follower of our Twitter account It doesn't get much better. Currently 2.169 are currently following the DI on twitter while 4.094 are reading NCSE's tweets. And how desperate does one have be to state:   Quote Heck, you could go through our recommended booklist and give appropriate ID books to friends for Christmas, Hanukkah, birthdays, or other holidays. -------------- "[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God." - William Dembski -

Amadan Posts: 1337 Joined: Jan. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 01 2012,05:47    Quote (sparc @ July 01 2012,08:23)   Quote Heck, you could go through our recommended booklist and give appropriate ID books to friends for Christmas, Hanukkah, birthdays, or other holidays. The perfect gift for 28 October, the Feast of St. Jude! -------------- "People are always looking for natural selection to generate random mutations" - Densye  4-4-2011 JoeG BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.

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