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aapJune 7, 2016 at 11:22 am
As a multiyear watcher on UD I have appreciated the discussions and the willingness of ID scientists, computer programmers, philosophers, engineers, lawyers and others who enjoy thinking for themselves and are willing to take the flak in challenging methodological naturalistic evolutionary orthodoxy. I believe that theistic evolution is bad science and very bad theology. I won’t get into the bad theology part, which is nothing more than a poisonous liberal recipe of Esau’s bowl of pottage which has been slowly and painfully destroying the mainline churches and is now invading the evangelical churches. Forget the theology for now, the science is wanting. For over the past 45 or so years since becoming interested in the evolution-creation debate I have heard a lot of huffing and bluffing on the part of evolutionists, theistic or otherwise, of “we are going to blow your creationist house down with all of the overwhelming evidence for common descent via the materialistic evolutionary process”. The present issue on this thread regarding vestigial genetic markers and the “God wouldn’t do it this way” comments are, as others have pointed out, just a regurgitating of the older vestigial organ arguments which didn’t turn out very well for the evolutionary believers. Like many others I have been waiting and watching for some real hard evidence that actually supports the evolutionary beliefs. I think it is time for evolutionists, theistic or otherwise, to either put up or shut up. My challenge for Drs. Venema and Swamidass and other evolutionists is to show us the goods, let us see “the money”. Most biological evolutionists, theistic or otherwise, give the impression that they are experts in their understanding of the evolutionary mutational and natural selection process. In their superior knowledge they tell us that they understand and can see how common descent works. So I say, show us what you can do with your evolutionary knowledge. How about something simple like creating a new cellular life form from non-life. If they believe that life happened by accidental processes, why don’t they give us a demonstration or least an explanation of how those kind of accidents can happen, and why they don’t keep happening. Or, is it just part of their belief system? Despite all of the hype in OOL research, they are light years away from understanding what life actually is, let alone being able to manufacture it from non-life. Today, through real scientific disciplines we know that all life forms are information rich with irreducibly complex and integrated miniature computerized type systems. Real science teaches us that life doesn’t come from non-life, but all life comes from the “Word”- the information created by the Creator. Why don’t the evolutionary biologists use their “superior knowledge” and give us a demonstration of the power of the evolutionary process. Where are all of the peer reviewed papers explaining to us “duffusses” exactly which mutations have to take place in order to transform one kind of creature into another and how those mutations were caused. How about changing a unicellular life form into a different kind of viable multicellular life form through the application of directed mutations and natural selection. That shouldn’t be too hard with all of their expertize. No, all they have managed to do with their extensive knowledge of evolution and years of experimentation and wasted government funding of evolutionary biology is to produce either deformed or dead bacteria or houseflies. Where would evolutionary biology be without government welfare? Who is going to waste their own money on research that doesn’t produce any concrete results? How about something a little more challenging like transforming an asexual lifeform into a sexually reproducing life form. Let them show us how it happens. Now if they really are smart they will also be able to create sentient life through accidental mutations. I am waiting, and so are many others. True science can create some amazing technological contraptions which are almost miraculous, but only GOD can do what is truly miraculous, which is the creation of our universe and every kind of life, including human life.
It is time to end the huffing and bluffing and just-so stories and speculations about vestigial organs or genetics and give us the real deal. Professor Richard Lewontin, a geneticist and one of the world’s leaders in evolutionary biology, wrote this very revealing statement that highlights the implicit a priori bias against GOD that he and many other methodological naturalistic scientists hold:
‘We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism. It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is an absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door.’
Yes, the Divine Foot feared by Richard Lewontin and other materialistic minded scientists is not only in the door but is trampling on their cherished evolutionary religious beliefs that they are nothing more than mutated and mutating creatures who are free from the Divine will.
Lastly, it is tragic that theistic evolutionists in their insistence on methodological naturalism usually take the side of the scientific establishment in the ostracizing and persecution of other scientists who do not believe the evidence supports evolutionary common descent, but instead points to an Intelligent Designer or Creator GOD. It is understandable why atheistic believers would hold to evolutionary beliefs and not be able to see the power and wisdom of GOD revealed in His Creation, for they have nothing else but evolution to believe in, but it is lamentable that those who express theism should be so blind as not to see GOD’S hand in His absolutely incredible handiwork in the universe and in life, particularly human life. It is time for all scientists to humble themselves and give GOD the glory He deserves for His miraculous creations. ID is a good start. |
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