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Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: May 03 2021,11:45    One of my colleagues at MSU mentioned the risk associated with vaccination programs, essentially that as more of a population is vaccinated and becomes non-susceptible to the strain(s) that the vaccine targeted, those strains become weaker competitors for novel variants with partial or complete vaccine escape. That would indicate that immunizations should be rapid, to give less time for the evolution of variants that do have some degree of vaccine escape, and that active cases be kept low, to reduce opportunities for that evolution to occur. This thread is for discussion of anything to do with SARS-CoV-2 evolution, epidemiology modeling, and public health policy. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: May 03 2021,14:31    It is looking like we've opted for "deal with this disease forever" option. Not only does it look like eradication is off the table, but so is herd immunity. Reaching ‘Herd Immunity’ Is Unlikely in the U.S., Experts Now Believe -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

Henry J Posts: 5787 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 04 2021,12:27    Has anybody yet made the claim that it's still a virus and not yet a bacterium?

Alan Fox Posts: 1556 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 04 2021,13:58    Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ May 03 2021,06:45) That would indicate that immunizations should be rapid, to give less time for the evolution of variants that do have some degree of vaccine escape, and that active cases be kept low, to reduce opportunities for that evolution to occur. So many missed opportunities. India being the latest.

Dr.GH Posts: 2333 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: May 08 2021,09:57    NY Post Editorial  "Don’t buy the fearmongering: The COVID-19 threat is waning" May 4, 2021 by Marty Makary M.D., M.P.H.   This stupid asshole (a surgeon) is on the faculty of Johns Hopkins. He is already being quoted by the right-wingers that it is time to drop the masks, and open back up.

Henry J Posts: 5787 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 08 2021,10:05    If he thinks it's waning, maybe he should vacation in India?

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: May 11 2021,12:49    Quote (Dr.GH @ May 08 2021,09:57) NY Post Editorial  "Don’t buy the fearmongering: The COVID-19 threat is waning" May 4, 2021 by Marty Makary M.D., M.P.H.   This stupid asshole (a surgeon) is on the faculty of Johns Hopkins. He is already being quoted by the right-wingers that it is time to drop the masks, and open back up. I wouldn't discount the notion that he is being paid. It worked for big tobacco. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 24 2021,10:14    Explaining HIPAA: No, it doesn’t ban questions about your vaccination status https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifesty....ry.html

Texas Teach Posts: 2084 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 24 2021,16:25    Quote (stevestory @ May 24 2021,10:14) Explaining HIPAA: No, it doesn’t ban questions about your vaccination status https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifesty....ry.html I know a really good HIPAA joke, but I can’t tell it to you. -------------- "Creationists think everything Genesis says is true. I don't even think Phil Collins is a good drummer." --J. Carr "I suspect that the English grammar books where you live are outdated" --G. Gaulin

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: June 08 2021,19:12    MT Greene Says she knows COVID-19 is a bio weapon because evolution doesn’t exist https://twitter.com/owillis....09?s=21 Edited by stevestory on June 08 2021,20:12

Dr.GH Posts: 2333 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: June 09 2021,09:57    Quote (stevestory @ June 08 2021,17:12) MT Greene Says she knows COVID-19 is a bio weapon because evolution doesn’t exist https://twitter.com/owillis....09?s=21 The full article is; https://americanindependent.com/marjori....s-china -------------- "Science is the horse that pulls the cart of philosophy." L. Susskind, 2004 "SMOLIN VS. SUSSKIND: THE ANTHROPIC PRINCIPLE"

Alan Fox Posts: 1556 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: June 10 2021,11:56    There's a good in-depth discussion debunking the Covid conspiracy theory as man-made in Wuhan at Peaceful Science.

Henry J Posts: 5787 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: June 10 2021,20:54    Quote (stevestory @ June 08 2021,18:12) MT Greene Says she knows COVID-19 is a bio weapon because evolution doesn’t exist https://twitter.com/owillis....09?s=21 What does this person think prevents evolution from happening in all cases?

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 21 2021,23:54    Medrxiv pre-print on identification of a SARS-CoV-2 variant that is likely to be a recombinant of two parent strains. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

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