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Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 15 2011,10:36    Quote (OgreMkV @ May 15 2011,09:18) Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ May 15 2011,04:15) The Synthese Editors-in-Chief have responded to the main petition. They created a domain for their response, whose single page presents exactly one image of text. I have transcribed it. Basically, they don't see that they got anything wrong in applying the disclaimer and keeping everybody with a direct interest in that decision in the dark. That was a crappy thing. It's like the newspaper that prints one thing and then buries the retraction in the sports section underneath the hockey results. No one notices and the original work keeps spewing forth. They might as well have not done it and at least been consistent.  This just smacks of pandering. Moreover, this does not answer my questions at all. What about transparency, proper communication and notification, integrity? Intelligent design is not essentially the question. I never thought that the editors-in-chief "endorsed" intelligent design. They took an extraordinary step and they need to account for it. They have not done that yet. Contrary to what critics of the "Darwinist agenda" have been saying, trust and ethics are a key components in scholarly communication. -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

MichaelJ Posts: 462 Joined: June 2009 (Permalink) Posted: May 16 2011,01:11    Atheistoclast on PT claimed that he made the complaint. Not that he isn't known as a lying SOB.

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: May 16 2011,07:28    Quote (MichaelJ @ May 16 2011,01:11) Atheistoclast on PT claimed that he made the complaint. Not that he isn't known as a lying SOB. Link, please? -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 16 2011,08:07    Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ May 16 2011,07:28) Quote (MichaelJ @ May 16 2011,01:11) Atheistoclast on PT claimed that he made the complaint. Not that he isn't known as a lying SOB. Link, please? Is this it? Quote I would like to think that my own strenuous efforts in repeatedly contacting the main editors were productive. It is a victory for common sense over the likes of Branch and Forrest. ETA - Here it is! This is actually at the Thumb. Quote LOL, Steve. I am sure you read all those papers! Give us specific examples of “new” functions arising. “Variant” functions, that are only slightly different, don’t count. Anyway, I am pleased that the NCSE’s polemic against ID has backfired. I had threatened Synthese with legal action. [Times link] It is a victory for all decent Americans. The plot thickens, but I'm not sure with what. Edited by Kristine on May 16 2011,11:03 -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: May 16 2011,18:31    Thanks, Kristine, I've added the link to PT and another on TalkRational where "Atheistoclast" identifies himself to a thread on "New Apps" where speculation about who threatened Synthese is topical. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

sparc Posts: 2089 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 16 2011,22:33    I don't beleave anything Atheistoclast writes. IMO he is another dishonest liar and pretentious Kook. E.g., he devided his four names by two to pretend one of his writings had been written by two authors. PT should move anything he posted there to the bathroom wall. But make shure that the wall doesn't have doors or windows. BTW, he is currently spamming Larry Moran's sandwalk. -------------- "[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God." - William Dembski -

sparc Posts: 2089 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 16 2011,22:52    Besides trolling the internet Atheistoclast is spamming journals as well. IIRC, this is not the first case. According to his own words he is fully aware of what he is doing and he is even proud of it.E.g., see the discussion here -------------- "[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God." - William Dembski -

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 31 2011,09:19    Well, to take a step back and look at context, here is an article on the American Economic Association's decision to end double-blind peer review, on the basis that in this age of Google, it "no longer exists" anyway. Intriguing that, considering that double-blind reviewing appears to result in greater publication rates for women and graduate students. Edited by Kristine on May 31 2011,09:19 -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

khan Posts: 1554 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 31 2011,17:05    Intriguing that, considering that double-blind reviewing appears to result in greater publication rates for women and graduate students. And we can't have that. ETA: I was a math major in college in the '60s & a programmer in the '80s & I remember all the assholes. BTW: Fucked up the kids, I also know how to shoot. -------------- "It's as if all those words, in their hurry to escape from the loony, have fallen over each other, forming scrambled heaps of meaninglessness." -damitall That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad Frequency is just the plural of wavelength... -JoeG

Doc Bill Posts: 1039 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 31 2011,18:20    Reminds me of what my major professor used to ask me: "Are you blind????!!!"

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