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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: July 19 2015,16:34   

Re "There is no “unbecoming.”"

I dunno. To me, the argument that was excepted from sounds rather unbecoming.

  
CeilingCat



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(Permalink) Posted: July 19 2015,16:52   

Mapou:  "Here is a simple and rock solid refutation of both time and its arrow."

Points at head.

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: July 19 2015,18:20   

in case anyone's not following it, Zachriel is mopping the floor w/r/t "if a zygote == a baby, would you rescue a vat of zygotes instead of a living baby if you had to choose one?" ethical thought experiment, and the IDiots are flailing and gnashing their toofies. it's fun.

here

   
Ptaylor



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(Permalink) Posted: July 19 2015,19:32   

Quote (stevestory @ July 20 2015,11:20)
in case anyone's not following it, Zachriel is mopping the floor w/r/t "if a zygote == a baby, would you rescue a vat of zygotes instead of a living baby if you had to choose one?" ethical thought experiment, and the IDiots are flailing and gnashing their toofies. it's fun.

here

Yes. One of the funnier sideshows there is Joe G/Virgil Cain who 'solves' the dilemma:
   
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I would have the staff save the frozen embryos and incubator while I saved the newborn baby. 😎

Wondering, no doubt, why no-one is congratulating on his insightfulness, he repeats his solution - twice - until StephenB, of all people, educates him:
   
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Virgil Cain

   
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   StephenB- You save one and have someone else save the other. The probability that you are the only person left is too small to even consider.


Obviously, that would be the best solution. Gather up our resources and save them all. We both agree on that. Under those circumstances, there is no dilemma. The question, though, is about what we would do if the best solution is not possible.

Poor Joe, he gets no respect.

Edited by Ptaylor on July 20 2015,12:34

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k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: July 20 2015,00:24   

Quote (Ptaylor @ July 20 2015,03:32)
Quote (stevestory @ July 20 2015,11:20)
in case anyone's not following it, Zachriel is mopping the floor w/r/t "if a zygote == a baby, would you rescue a vat of zygotes instead of a living baby if you had to choose one?" ethical thought experiment, and the IDiots are flailing and gnashing their toofies. it's fun.

here

Yes. One of the funnier sideshows there is Joe G/Virgil Cain who 'solves' the dilemma:
     
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I would have the staff save the frozen embryos and incubator while I saved the newborn baby. 😎

Wondering, no doubt, why no-one is congratulating on his insightfulness, he repeats his solution - twice - until StephenB, of all people, educates him:
     
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Virgil Cain

     
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   StephenB- You save one and have someone else save the other. The probability that you are the only person left is too small to even consider.


Obviously, that would be the best solution. Gather up our resources and save them all. We both agree on that. Under those circumstances, there is no dilemma. The question, though, is about what we would do if the best solution is not possible.

Poor Joe, he gets no respect.

Obviously if you measure time in zygotes the probability is around zero then the dilemma becomes why is a second rate factory worker/with a ticket in  vending machine not less respected?

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(Permalink) Posted: July 20 2015,08:51   

Double bonus JoeTard from the same post at Corny's place.

First the reason why women don't deserve the right to choose an abortion.  They're too dumb to be given rights.
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Joe G July 19, 2015 at 8:13 AM

Umm if women are too dim to decide BEFORE having sex perhaps they shouldn't be given the right to choose after they become pregnant.

Then we get Joe's understanding of spontaneous abortions that end 40% of all pregnancies.  Miscarriages are evidence of Intelligent Design because they show genetic entropy.

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Miscarriages prove how miraculous life is as obviously it is a very intricate and complex process. Miscarriages speak of the wrought of genetic entropy.


linky

The bottomless pit of stupid that is Joe G.  :D

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(Permalink) Posted: July 20 2015,08:58   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 20 2015,06:51)
Double bonus JoeTard from the same post at Corny's place.

First the reason why women don't deserve the right to choose an abortion.  They're too dumb to be given rights.
 
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Joe G July 19, 2015 at 8:13 AM

Umm if women are too dim to decide BEFORE having sex perhaps they shouldn't be given the right to choose after they become pregnant.

Then we get Joe's understanding of spontaneous abortions that end 40% of all pregnancies.  Miscarriages are evidence of Intelligent Design because they show genetic entropy.

 
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Miscarriages prove how miraculous life is as obviously it is a very intricate and complex process. Miscarriages speak of the wrought of genetic entropy.


linky

The bottomless pit of stupid that is Joe G.  :D

Not to mention.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 20 2015,09:10   

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harry
July 20, 2015 at 7:57 am
Of much more importance than considering Zachriel’s far-fetched scenario, one that we will never find ourselves in....


I wonder if these dummies can grok that with every evasive answer, they prove Zach's point?

eta: linky

Edited by stevestory on July 20 2015,10:11

   
Tony M Nyphot



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(Permalink) Posted: July 20 2015,09:51   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 20 2015,07:51)
Double bonus JoeTard from the same post at Corny's place.

First the reason why women don't deserve the right to choose an abortion.  They're too dumb to be given rights.
     
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Joe G July 19, 2015 at 8:13 AM

Umm if women are too dim to decide BEFORE having sex perhaps they shouldn't be given the right to choose after they become pregnant.

Then we get Joe's understanding of spontaneous abortions that end 40% of all pregnancies.  Miscarriages are evidence of Intelligent Design because they show genetic entropy.

     
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Miscarriages prove how miraculous life is as obviously it is a very intricate and complex process. Miscarriages speak of the wrought of genetic entropy.


linky

The bottomless pit of stupid that is Joe G.  :D


Bottomless pit, meet infinite largest-known-number lack of self-awareness.

 Joe G July 20, 2015 at 6:38 AM  
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BTW misrepresenting the opposition is the surest way to admit your arguments have lost.

Thank you



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(Permalink) Posted: July 20 2015,10:34   

Quote (Tony M Nyphot @ July 20 2015,17:51)
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 20 2015,07:51)
Double bonus JoeTard from the same post at Corny's place.

First the reason why women don't deserve the right to choose an abortion.  They're too dumb to be given rights.
       
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Joe G July 19, 2015 at 8:13 AM

Umm if women are too dim to decide BEFORE having sex perhaps they shouldn't be given the right to choose after they become pregnant.

Then we get Joe's understanding of spontaneous abortions that end 40% of all pregnancies.  Miscarriages are evidence of Intelligent Design because they show genetic entropy.

       
Quote
Miscarriages prove how miraculous life is as obviously it is a very intricate and complex process. Miscarriages speak of the wrought of genetic entropy.


linky

The bottomless pit of stupid that is Joe G.  :D


Bottomless pit, meet infinite largest-known-number lack of self-awareness.

 Joe G July 20, 2015 at 6:38 AM    
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BTW misrepresenting the opposition is the surest way to admit your arguments have lost.

Thank you



(JoeG thread material?)

Joeneticks it's degenerant entropy speading across teh innerwebs

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(Permalink) Posted: July 20 2015,15:22   

Quote (stevestory @ July 20 2015,07:10)
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143
harry
July 20, 2015 at 7:57 am
Of much more importance than considering Zachriel’s far-fetched scenario, one that we will never find ourselves in....


I wonder if these dummies can grok that with every evasive answer, they prove Zach's point?

eta: linky

More squirming from StephenB
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A medical procedure to save the life or health of the mother is not an abortion since the purpose is to save the mother.


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(Permalink) Posted: July 20 2015,16:14   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 20 2015,08:51)
Double bonus JoeTard from the same post at Corny's place.

First the reason why women don't deserve the right to choose an abortion.  They're too dumb to be given rights.
 
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Joe G July 19, 2015 at 8:13 AM

Umm if women are too dim to decide BEFORE having sex perhaps they shouldn't be given the right to choose after they become pregnant.

Then we get Joe's understanding of spontaneous abortions that end 40% of all pregnancies.  Miscarriages are evidence of Intelligent Design because they show genetic entropy.

 
Quote
Miscarriages prove how miraculous life is as obviously it is a very intricate and complex process. Miscarriages speak of the wrought of genetic entropy.


linky

The bottomless pit of stupid that is Joe G.  :D

Chubby imbecile. Rape?

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(Permalink) Posted: July 20 2015,16:54   

Quote (Richardthughes @ July 20 2015,14:14)
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 20 2015,08:51)
Double bonus JoeTard from the same post at Corny's place.

First the reason why women don't deserve the right to choose an abortion.  They're too dumb to be given rights.
 
Quote
Joe G July 19, 2015 at 8:13 AM

Umm if women are too dim to decide BEFORE having sex perhaps they shouldn't be given the right to choose after they become pregnant.

Then we get Joe's understanding of spontaneous abortions that end 40% of all pregnancies.  Miscarriages are evidence of Intelligent Design because they show genetic entropy.

 
Quote
Miscarriages prove how miraculous life is as obviously it is a very intricate and complex process. Miscarriages speak of the wrought of genetic entropy.


linky

The bottomless pit of stupid that is Joe G.  :D

Chubby imbecile. Rape?

If you ask, I hope you're within lunging distance of a shower.  It's going to be vile.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 20 2015,16:54   

Quote (Richardthughes @ July 20 2015,16:14)
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 20 2015,08:51)
Double bonus JoeTard from the same post at Corny's place.

First the reason why women don't deserve the right to choose an abortion.  They're too dumb to be given rights.
 
Quote
Joe G July 19, 2015 at 8:13 AM

Umm if women are too dim to decide BEFORE having sex perhaps they shouldn't be given the right to choose after they become pregnant.

Then we get Joe's understanding of spontaneous abortions that end 40% of all pregnancies.  Miscarriages are evidence of Intelligent Design because they show genetic entropy.

 
Quote
Miscarriages prove how miraculous life is as obviously it is a very intricate and complex process. Miscarriages speak of the wrought of genetic entropy.


linky

The bottomless pit of stupid that is Joe G.  :D

Chubby imbecile. Rape?

And he thinks that the combination of condoms and rhythm method is 100% effective.

I wonder what form of birth control Joe's parents used. Whatever it was, it resulted in brain damage.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 20 2015,17:10   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ July 20 2015,16:54)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ July 20 2015,16:14)
   
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 20 2015,08:51)
Double bonus JoeTard from the same post at Corny's place.

First the reason why women don't deserve the right to choose an abortion.  They're too dumb to be given rights.
     
Quote
Joe G July 19, 2015 at 8:13 AM

Umm if women are too dim to decide BEFORE having sex perhaps they shouldn't be given the right to choose after they become pregnant.

Then we get Joe's understanding of spontaneous abortions that end 40% of all pregnancies.  Miscarriages are evidence of Intelligent Design because they show genetic entropy.

     
Quote
Miscarriages prove how miraculous life is as obviously it is a very intricate and complex process. Miscarriages speak of the wrought of genetic entropy.


linky

The bottomless pit of stupid that is Joe G.  :D

Chubby imbecile. Rape?

And he thinks that the combination of condoms and rhythm method is 100% effective.

I wonder what form of birth control Joe's parents used. Whatever it was, it resulted in brain damage.

Given the results I suspect Joe was the first pregnancy to result from anal intercourse.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 20 2015,18:00   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 20 2015,17:10)
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ July 20 2015,16:54)
   
Quote (Richardthughes @ July 20 2015,16:14)
   
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 20 2015,08:51)
Double bonus JoeTard from the same post at Corny's place.

First the reason why women don't deserve the right to choose an abortion.  They're too dumb to be given rights.
       
Quote
Joe G July 19, 2015 at 8:13 AM

Umm if women are too dim to decide BEFORE having sex perhaps they shouldn't be given the right to choose after they become pregnant.

Then we get Joe's understanding of spontaneous abortions that end 40% of all pregnancies.  Miscarriages are evidence of Intelligent Design because they show genetic entropy.

       
Quote
Miscarriages prove how miraculous life is as obviously it is a very intricate and complex process. Miscarriages speak of the wrought of genetic entropy.


linky

The bottomless pit of stupid that is Joe G.  :D

Chubby imbecile. Rape?

And he thinks that the combination of condoms and rhythm method is 100% effective.

I wonder what form of birth control Joe's parents used. Whatever it was, it resulted in brain damage.

Given the results I suspect Joe was the first pregnancy to result from anal intercourse.

I'm not sure. I think Barry and Mullings are older than Joe. Which would mean that he can only claim thurd turd.

  
REC



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(Permalink) Posted: July 21 2015,19:41   

BA77 posted a link that reveals ID's peer group:

http://www.metaxastalk.com/podcast....21-2015

Tuesday, July 21, 2015
Hour 1: Intelligent design advocate, author and scientist Stephen Meyer joins the show.

Hour 2: Bigfoot expert Christopher Noël continues our first Bigfoot Week and is joined by fellow Sasquatch enthusiast Michael Medved.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 21 2015,20:26   

Quote (REC @ July 21 2015,19:41)
BA77 posted a link that reveals ID's peer group:

http://www.metaxastalk.com/podcast....21-2015

Tuesday, July 21, 2015
Hour 1: Intelligent design advocate, author and scientist Stephen Meyer joins the show.

Hour 2: Bigfoot expert Christopher Noël continues our first Bigfoot Week and is joined by fellow Sasquatch enthusiast Michael Medved.

And here was I thinking it was read as "metaxa stalk dot com".

I was all ready for another fever swamp ad hoc red herring cyber bully explanation for the continued failure of IDists to gain their richly deserved places in the laboratories of the elite.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 22 2015,02:44   

You think maybe O'Leary's got some issues?  This is on the first page at UD:              
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Uncommon Descent at 15000 posts: A tribute to Bill Dembski
July 20, 2015 Darwinism, Information, Intelligent Design

I (O’Leary for News ) must have first met Bill Dembski (who started this blog in 2005) at some  Christian meet in the Toronto area, Canada, roughly 2002. You know, the usual Templeton-funded stuff, aimed at sedating and anaesthetizing Christians in science while their hands are conveniently chopped off. They are more useful that way. […]
Hands chopped off?  Has she got ISIS envy?

In the OP she continues      
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We should quiet our concerns by  developing two lives, one in which we assent that the unbelievable is true (and get good jobs)P. Otherwise,  we could assert what we know, as  believable and evidence-based, and then be marginalized or destroyed.
Oh how the righteous suffer for the Lord!  Marginalized!  Un-hired by the big time magazines!  Forced to put up with retarded snots like..err.. The problem is not on her end!  When you've given your heart to Jesus, you get powers of discernment and see things like that.

But one man has it even worse:            
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No wonder Dembski became a hated man. Hated on both sides because, apart from any other way in which he might be a threat,  he offers lazy “Christians in science” a chance to fight – which they absolutely did not want.   They want to make a living by surrendering a bit at a time, via grants.
Saint Dembski, Martyr.  He never surrendered, not a bit except maybe that one time about the flood and it didn't save his job any way, so it's as if he never surrendered.  Saint Dembski.

Mung inadvertently has the last word.  "I would go up faster if we allowed more trolls."

Yes you would.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 22 2015,04:54   

I (Woodbine for Shit-posting) am eternally amused about the whole Dembski-Flood-Academic Freedom thing - not least because for some people it apparently never happened.

Isn't that right, Denyse, Barry, Casey, Klinghoffer...etc?

  
CeilingCat



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(Permalink) Posted: July 23 2015,01:07   

Really. Guillermo Gonzalez had seven years to design an astronomical research project, find funding for it and at least begin the actual research.  As far as I can tell, he did none of that.  He never came up with any kind of research program, so of course he had nothing to find funding for and never did any research.  At all.  Nada.  Not one bit.  

But when he was denied tenure because of his total failure to produce, the IDiots went wild.  They claimed that his academic freedom was abridged because he happened to write "The Privileged Planet" during his seven year paid vacation.  He made every ID martyr list.  He was living evidence of the anti-Christian prejudice that supposedly permeates the halls of ivy.

Then Dembski writes a book that takes the common sense view that Noah's Flood never happened and he's dragged before the Dean, forced to recant his views and made to pledge fealty to a religious dogma he obviously doesn't believe in.  And he gets canned anyway!

And the UD crew?  Instead of coming to the aid of their protector, they ignore his martyrdom and busy themselves flinging volleys of poo at the evil secularism, telling themselves how clever they are and banning those who disagree.  They forsook him three times before the cock even woke up.  Truly, "A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house."

I think the worst part for Dembski is that Southwest Baptist had such a really beautiful parking lot.  A man could be proud, parking in that lot!  He'd really feel that he'd arrived, that he was one of the big boys now, a scholar of substance.  It must have hurt to the bone when it was taken away.

Worse than the cafeteria.



Edited by stevestory on July 23 2015,12:38

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 23 2015,07:58   

Quote (CeilingCat @ July 23 2015,02:07)
Really. Guillermo Gonzalez had seven years to design an astronomical research project, find funding for it and at least begin the actual research.  As far as I can tell, he did none of that.  He never came up with any kind of research program, so of course he had nothing to find funding for and never did any research.  At all.  Nada.  Not one bit.  

But when he was denied tenure because of his total failure to produce, the IDiots went wild.  They claimed that his academic freedom was abridged because he happened to write "The Privileged Planet" during his seven year paid vacation.  He made every ID martyr list.  He was living evidence of the anti-Christian prejudice that supposedly permeates the halls of ivy.

Then Dembski writes a book that takes the common sense view that Noah's Flood never happened and he's dragged before the Dean, forced to recant his views and made to pledge fealty to a religious dogma he obviously doesn't believe in.  And he gets canned anyway!

And the UD crew?  Instead of coming to the aid of their protector, they ignore his martyrdom and busy themselves flinging volleys of poo at the evil secularism, telling themselves how clever they are and banning those who disagree.  They forsook him three times before the cock even woke up.  Truly, "A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house."

I think the worst part for Dembski is that Southwest Baptist had such a really beautiful parking lot.  A man could be proud, parking in that lot!  He'd really feel that he'd arrived, that he was one of the big boys now, a scholar of substance.  It must have hurt to the bone when it was taken away.

Worse than the cafeteria.

POTW nominee!

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fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: July 23 2015,08:55   

Quote (fusilier @ July 23 2015,05:58)
Quote (CeilingCat @ July 23 2015,02:07)
Really. Guillermo Gonzalez had seven years to design an astronomical research project, find funding for it and at least begin the actual research.  As far as I can tell, he did none of that.  He never came up with any kind of research program, so of course he had nothing to find funding for and never did any research.  At all.  Nada.  Not one bit.  

But when he was denied tenure because of his total failure to produce, the IDiots went wild.  They claimed that his academic freedom was abridged because he happened to write "The Privileged Planet" during his seven year paid vacation.  He made every ID martyr list.  He was living evidence of the anti-Christian prejudice that supposedly permeates the halls of ivy.

Then Dembski writes a book that takes the common sense view that Noah's Flood never happened and he's dragged before the Dean, forced to recant his views and made to pledge fealty to a religious dogma he obviously doesn't believe in.  And he gets canned anyway!

And the UD crew?  Instead of coming to the aid of their protector, they ignore his martyrdom and busy themselves flinging volleys of poo at the evil secularism, telling themselves how clever they are and banning those who disagree.  They forsook him three times before the cock even woke up.  Truly, "A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house."

I think the worst part for Dembski is that Southwest Baptist had such a really beautiful parking lot.  A man could be proud, parking in that lot!  He'd really feel that he'd arrived, that he was one of the big boys now, a scholar of substance.  It must have hurt to the bone when it was taken away.

Worse than the cafeteria.

POTW nominee!

+1

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(Permalink) Posted: July 23 2015,10:28   

Quote (fnxtr @ July 23 2015,16:55)
Quote (fusilier @ July 23 2015,05:58)
Quote (CeilingCat @ July 23 2015,02:07)
Really. Guillermo Gonzalez had seven years to design an astronomical research project, find funding for it and at least begin the actual research.  As far as I can tell, he did none of that.  He never came up with any kind of research program, so of course he had nothing to find funding for and never did any research.  At all.  Nada.  Not one bit.  

But when he was denied tenure because of his total failure to produce, the IDiots went wild.  They claimed that his academic freedom was abridged because he happened to write "The Privileged Planet" during his seven year paid vacation.  He made every ID martyr list.  He was living evidence of the anti-Christian prejudice that supposedly permeates the halls of ivy.

Then Dembski writes a book that takes the common sense view that Noah's Flood never happened and he's dragged before the Dean, forced to recant his views and made to pledge fealty to a religious dogma he obviously doesn't believe in.  And he gets canned anyway!

And the UD crew?  Instead of coming to the aid of their protector, they ignore his martyrdom and busy themselves flinging volleys of poo at the evil secularism, telling themselves how clever they are and banning those who disagree.  They forsook him three times before the cock even woke up.  Truly, "A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house."

I think the worst part for Dembski is that Southwest Baptist had such a really beautiful parking lot.  A man could be proud, parking in that lot!  He'd really feel that he'd arrived, that he was one of the big boys now, a scholar of substance.  It must have hurt to the bone when it was taken away.

Worse than the cafeteria.

POTW nominee!

+1

+1 bottle of single malt and a Waterloo. Don't forget teh Dembster still owes a book to The John Templeton Foundation maybe that's why his buddies at bible school thought waterboarding him was a good idea.

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CeilingCat



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(Permalink) Posted: July 23 2015,16:16   

K.e.. "Don't forget teh Dembster still owes a book to The John Templeton Foundation maybe that's why his buddies at bible school thought waterboarding him was a good idea. "

In the introduction to "Being as Communion", in the credits, he thanks the Templeton Foundation for their support and says this book is the one he owes them.  No reply from the Templeton boys so far.  Possibly they're still speechless.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 23 2015,20:57   

Quote (CeilingCat @ July 23 2015,16:16)
K.e.. "Don't forget teh Dembster still owes a book to The John Templeton Foundation maybe that's why his buddies at bible school thought waterboarding him was a good idea. "

In the introduction to "Being as Communion", in the credits, he thanks the Templeton Foundation for their support and says this book is the one he owes them.  No reply from the Templeton boys so far.  Possibly they're still speechless.

I'd be happy to be paid to owe them a book for a decade. A sweet gig, if you can get it.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 23 2015,21:21   

Book 'em, Dano?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 23 2015,23:18   

Quote (CeilingCat @ July 23 2015,16:16)
K.e.. "Don't forget teh Dembster still owes a book to The John Templeton Foundation maybe that's why his buddies at bible school thought waterboarding him was a good idea. "

In the introduction to "Being as Communion", in the credits, he thanks the Templeton Foundation for their support and says this book is the one he owes them.  No reply from the Templeton boys so far.  Possibly they're still speechless.

Getting permanently reminded of the 10,000 bucks must have been a pain in the ass for him because his CV/resumé at designinference.com since 2012 says:
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Templeton Foundation Book Prize ($100,000), for writing book on information theory, 2000–2001; project partially completed by publishing book titled No Free Lunch with Rowman and Littlefield in 2002.


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(Permalink) Posted: July 23 2015,23:57   

Quote (sparc @ July 23 2015,21:18)
 
Quote (CeilingCat @ July 23 2015,16:16)
K.e.. "Don't forget teh Dembster still owes a book to The John Templeton Foundation maybe that's why his buddies at bible school thought waterboarding him was a good idea. "

In the introduction to "Being as Communion", in the credits, he thanks the Templeton Foundation for their support and says this book is the one he owes them.  No reply from the Templeton boys so far.  Possibly they're still speechless.

Getting permanently reminded of the 10,000 bucks must have been a pain in the ass for him because his CV/resumé at designinference.com since 2012 says:    
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Templeton Foundation Book Prize ($100,000), for writing book on information theory, 2000–2001; project partially completed by publishing book titled No Free Lunch with Rowman and Littlefield in 2002.

I suppose the Templeton Foundation has a "No Free Lunch" policy.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 24 2015,07:17   

Quote (paragwinn @ July 23 2015,23:57)
Quote (sparc @ July 23 2015,21:18)
 
Quote (CeilingCat @ July 23 2015,16:16)
K.e.. "Don't forget teh Dembster still owes a book to The John Templeton Foundation maybe that's why his buddies at bible school thought waterboarding him was a good idea. "

In the introduction to "Being as Communion", in the credits, he thanks the Templeton Foundation for their support and says this book is the one he owes them.  No reply from the Templeton boys so far.  Possibly they're still speechless.

Getting permanently reminded of the 10,000 bucks must have been a pain in the ass for him because his CV/resumé at designinference.com since 2012 says:    
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Templeton Foundation Book Prize ($100,000), for writing book on information theory, 2000–2001; project partially completed by publishing book titled No Free Lunch with Rowman and Littlefield in 2002.

I suppose the Templeton Foundation has a "No Free Lunch" policy.

If they didn't before they do now.

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