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Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 01 2010,20:18    Barry Arrington is likely to include the Discover Channel hostage-taker in his future arguments. The fellow has a manifesto citing Darwin and Malthus for his radical approach to advocating zero-to-negative human population growth. NPR coverage -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

carlsonjok Posts: 3326 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 01 2010,21:13    Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Sep. 01 2010,20:18) Barry Arrington is likely to include the Discover Channel hostage-taker in his future arguments. The fellow has a manifesto citing Darwin and Malthus for his radical approach to advocating zero-to-negative human population growth. NPR coverage Well, if he does, he'll be late to the party.  The ghouls out in Seattle has already fired up the news and views team. Both David Klinghoffer and Rob Crowther (quoting Bruce Chapman) are already on the job. -------------- It's natural to be curious about our world, but the scientific method is just one theory about how to best understand it.  We live in a democracy, which means we should treat every theory equally. - Steven Colbert, I Am America (and So Can You!)

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 13 2013,10:20    Who is Barry Arrington, indeed. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 13 2013,10:42    Mild dissent: I really don't give a damn about people's politics when evaluating their ideas. Hating Barry for his gun and abortion stances is classic ad hominem. Arguments used in legal cases, however, are fair game. Both for their hypocrisy and for their irrationality. But Barry's mortal sin is not being wrong. It is being an internet bully, one who pushes opponents around and who then blocks them from responding. Cowardly. And counterproductive. -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

Bob O'H Posts: 2564 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 16 2013,10:00    Good news for Michel[l]e Bachmann! This autumn, her PAC: "Many Individual Conservatives Helping Elect [Loony] Leaders Everywhere (MICHELEPAC)" changed treasurer. On the 16th August, they had filed some bookwork that had Barry A. listed as treasurer. A few weeks later, on the 9th of September they filed more bookwork, with Nancy Watkins listed as treasurer. source -------------- It is fun to dip into the various threads to watch cluelessness at work in the hands of the confident exponent. - Soapy Sam (so say we all)

jeffox Posts: 671 Joined: Oct. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 16 2013,12:56    That's OK.  She's got less than 11 months left, anyway - she's not running in the next elective cycle.  I guess the laugh-fest in St. Cloud left an impression.  ;)   I guarantee you, Minnesota will not miss her.

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 11 2014,22:24    Barry in action: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014....popular -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 13 2014,16:19    Quote (Richardthughes @ Jan. 11 2014,22:24) Barry in action: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014.......popular Looks like it's a case of Barry being Barry... What an asshole! -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Learned Hand Posts: 214 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 14 2014,14:26    Please don't judge lawyers by their clients. Some of the most moral and upstanding attorneys have the worst clients. Even assuming that the version of events in the story is totally accurate, BA is not responsible for his clients' wrongdoing. Stepping up to defend a reprehensible client is a morally good act, even if the client is guilty, because the system absolutely depends on everyone having effective counsel.

Cubist Posts: 559 Joined: Oct. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 14 2014,15:41    Quote (Learned Hand @ Jan. 14 2014,14:26) Please don't judge lawyers by their clients. Some of the most moral and upstanding attorneys have the worst clients. Even assuming that the version of events in the story is totally accurate, BA is not responsible for his clients' wrongdoing. Stepping up to defend a reprehensible client is a morally good act, even if the client is guilty, because the system absolutely depends on everyone having effective counsel. We're not judging Barry by his clients. Rather, we're judging Barry by Barry. He's got a wee bit of a track record of being an arrogant, insensitive fuckwad, and this latest bit of Barryana is just consistent with that track record.

Learned Hand Posts: 214 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 14 2014,16:21    How? All I see in that article is that he said the claimant's claims were "baseless" and refused to go into detail. That's pretty much what anyone would do when representing an organization accused of wrongdoing. ("Baseless" could mean lots of things--what the school did wasn't wrong, or it didn't do what she's claiming, or she's not the right person to claim it, etc.) I googled the facts and found some other articles in which he claims that three "outside" attorneys agree that the claims are baseless. That's an odd thing for an attorney to say, but it's not arrogant or insensitive. It would be incredibly inappropriate for an attorney for the school to agree with the claimant's assertions. It could set the school up for a lawsuit (whether or not one is appropriate) and/or inflame the dispute. The standard thing to do is to say some variation of what he said and refuse to go into detail in public. That's not just the normal thing to do, it's the moral and right thing for counsel to do in the vast majority of cases.

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 25 2016,20:40    This: http://www.coloradoindependent.com/153706....amp-jab -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 25 2016,20:43    And then: http://www.coloradoindependent.com/153733....-lawyer -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Alan Fox Posts: 1556 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 27 2020,04:29    Quote (guthrie @ Dec. 20 2007,22:35) Quote (Bob O'H @ Dec. 21 2007,01:19) And if it doesn't happen I'm going to fly over to Texas, buy a gun, shoot a few lawyers and blame it all on Thomas Aquinas. Bob You do realise that the USA has the right to kidnap people from the UK for trial in the USA? (I know your joking, but still....) Remarks about Barry Arrington inspired me to glance at an old thread. Goodness me, that was quite prophetic. Julian Assange is far from being a hero but not sure anything he's done merits incarceration for life in a US prison.

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