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Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 30 2007,12:37    Nudie photos would surely scare everyone off (and likely get me in trouble with my guy, do you think?). #### it. First it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed and snigger until 2 a.m. (Some of us have to get up in the morning Richard! Now it’s Louis pulling a funny about my virtual Dembster diving while I’m at work. (“What’s so funny Kristine?” “Oh, nothing.”)   Quote {twirls moustache but does not in any way shimmy, that's for girls etc} No it’s not my dear. Men and women do the same dance movements (and you thought they were all prudes in the Middle East. Ever heard of Turkish Baths?). Someday preacher-man is going to shimmy to my tune, and so are you! Bwahahahahah!   Quote Oh and BTW how can you fancy Dembski? The man would surely weasel his way out of perfectly egalitarian orgasmic delivery by claiming he did not have to match your pathetic level of erogenous stimulation. He won’t even match my pathetic level of replying (not that I blame him at all—he probably thinks I’m a friggin’ lunatic stalker.) But if he and I had met in first year college I can tell you I would have fixed his little red wagon. Ah, alternative universes. *Twirls moustache, then stops in panic and reaches for tweezers* Doncha love getting old?   Quote Behold! Your end is nigh! Why don’t they just pass the collection plate? Or the KFC bucket? (Wait a minute, that’s the FTK bucket. Whatever.) -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

deadman_932 Posts: 3094 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 30 2007,12:51    Quote No it’s not my dear. Men and women do the same dance movements (and you thought they were all prudes in the Middle East. Ever heard of Turkish Baths?). Pfft, that's how Ken...er Morbious... Louis and I first met. Ah, memories: -------------- AtBC Award for Thoroughness in the Face of Creationism

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 30 2007,13:11    Quote (Kristine @ Jan. 30 2007,12:37) First it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed and snigger until 2 a.m. What did I do? Ps you're going in my sig. QUOTEMINETASTIC. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 30 2007,14:05    OW and UD are currently down. What's the betting OW is getting purged? :) It got quite odd on there today. TroutMac hardly knew what to say! And whatever would the students think if they logged on looking for ID warez? I doubt school internet (high school) web content filters would let it through! Ironic really for a site aimed at students. C'mon DaveScot Dell Rich Man Interwebs guru, do some homework! -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

deadman_932 Posts: 3094 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 30 2007,14:22    Quote (Richardthughes @ Jan. 30 2007,13:11)   Quote (Kristine @ Jan. 30 2007,12:37) First it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed and snigger until 2 a.m. What did I do? This is what a comedian would term a GOLDEN "straight line." -------------- AtBC Award for Thoroughness in the Face of Creationism

Steviepinhead Posts: 532 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 30 2007,14:42    Of course our, er, one's, er--all right, dang it!--my end is nigh... It's attached to the front of me! (And, despite the onslaught of the years, it's not all that far behind the rest of moi...)

Zachriel Posts: 2723 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 30 2007,14:59    Atom Quote To me it is strange that Darwinists describe NS as a “force”, when it is merely the description of the results, being that of replicators out-replicating each other. Actually, it is an *observation* of a causitive correlation between certain heritable traits and reproductive success. Atom Quote By talking about it as a mechanism, people then begin to ascribe all sorts of attributes to it, even “intelligence” (see Feebles…) Febble merely applied Dembski's definition of "intelligence". That the definition is often conflated with other such definitions leading to vast confusion within the Intelligent Design community is irrelevant to her carefully constructed argument -------------- You never step on the same tard twice—for it's not the same tard and you're not the same person.

Zachriel Posts: 2723 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 30 2007,15:16    russ   Quote If a tiny mutation produces a survival and reproduction advantage, and the critter gets struck by lightening or is eaten by a predator before the mutation can be passed on, then is natural selection not at least partially random? What am I missing? Reproductive success is not solely determined by heritable traits. However, it is not random by any means. And reproductive success can often be *observed* to be due to heritable variation. This causitive correlation is called "natural selection". JasonTheGreek   Quote By the way- what Stuart was referring to was the quote that we owe our lives and everything around us to a roll of the dice and nothing more…correct? Ecclesiastes 9:11   Quote I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all. Darn those Darwinian nihilists! They've even got to King James! -------------- You never step on the same tard twice—for it's not the same tard and you're not the same person.

Dr.GH Posts: 2333 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 30 2007,15:21    Quote Quote Behold! Your end is nigh! Why don’t they just pass the collection plate? Or the KFC bucket? (Wait a minute, that’s the FTK bucket. Whatever.) Err, I think that is End and Thigh. -------------- "Science is the horse that pulls the cart of philosophy." L. Susskind, 2004 "SMOLIN VS. SUSSKIND: THE ANTHROPIC PRINCIPLE"

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 30 2007,15:50    Kristine, I still reckon my "sexual selection of Tard" hypotheses a few threads away apply. It can be the only rational explanation for your unnatural desires. Unless...... ....hmmmm...... I did have this idea of going around to Jehovah's Witnesses' houses very early in the am with a case of strong beer, a bottle of vodka, several large joints, a woman of a certain morally casual nature and a stack of porn and converting them to my way of life. I was at university at the time. It sadly never amounted to much, although the photo of Mr Belushi does bear a very striking resemblance to my university self. TOGA! TOGA! Are you trying to convert Dembski to rationality by means foul or fair? Is this some kind of Honey Trap? Curiouser and curiouser. Louis P.S. Deadman, happy days, happy days. I still have the video rights remember. -------------- Bye.

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 30 2007,16:09    Re "So Mike Gene admits that the entire fossil record of change from fish to man is due to evolutionary change, but is "trivial", "irrelevant" and not "deep"." Well, it was deep while it was fish, since they're underwater, but after they came out on land, it wasn't deep anymore. Now that I've got that all cleared up...

2ndclass Posts: 182 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 30 2007,16:18    quizzlesticks: Quote I really do not want to dwell on Kazmer's theories about cancer. These are interesting and I am sure he will test them out as soon as his hectic lab schedule allows. So Kazmer has a lab schedule, and it's so hectic that the he can't be bothered with testing things like cancer cures. Kazmer: Quote However persons with blinders still have to see that the evolutionist paradigm is in process of decay, I'm guessing that the only way to shed those blinders is to smoke some of the stuff that Kazmer is cooking up in his lab. -------------- "I wasn't aware that classical physics had established a position on whether intelligent agents exercising free were constrained by 2LOT into increasing entropy." -DaveScot

djmullen Posts: 327 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 30 2007,17:16    Quote (Bob O'H @ Jan. 29 2007,13:20)   Quote (Cornelius Hunter @ Jan. 26 2007,15:11) It is strange that evolutionists never get around to addressing the scientific issue. Wesley Elsberry appears to be denying convergence, but that can't be true. If he has an explanation for convergence then let's hear it. If not, then admit it. Here is the question for evolutionists: How is it that similarities such as the pentadactyl pattern are such powerful evidence for evolution, in light of equala and greater levels of similarity in distant species, such as dsplayed in the marsupial and placental mouse? http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/01/4/pdf/l_014_02.pdf Sorry for coming in late on this (just got back from a workshop in the wilds of Finland).  Anyway, I just want to complain that the marsupial and placental mouse are totally different: there's not the same colour for a start. Bob If you check that .pdf file, you'll see why Dr. Hunter has trouble telling them apart by color.  He's using a coloring book as a reference and it hasn't been colored yet. By the way, Dr. Hunter has his own thread going on this now.

"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank Posts: 2560 Joined: Feb. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 30 2007,17:58    Quote (Kristine @ Jan. 30 2007,10:00) (Dr. Lenny, first I get through this semester and then I return from the Galapagos, and then I work on and post the shimmy-quiz animation. I promise.) :) And post more photos.   :) -------------- Editor, Red and Black Publishers www.RedandBlackPublishers.com

"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank Posts: 2560 Joined: Feb. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 30 2007,18:02    Quote (Louis @ Jan. 30 2007,11:09) I have it on good authority (mine) that you are all figments of my imagination. YOU prove it, and remember that I do not have to match your pathetic level of detail. Mwah ha ha. Well, dude, if *I* come solely from your mind and am only the product of your imagination, then  . . . . YOU are in serious need of long years of intensive therapy. ;) -------------- Editor, Red and Black Publishers www.RedandBlackPublishers.com

Occam's Toothbrush Posts: 555 Joined: April 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 30 2007,18:36    This quizzlestick person over at OE must be loki.  I mean, come on:       Quote Critics of Intelligent Design often present the same few objections to our theory: They claim that we do not yet offer a testable theory, and that we avoid peer-review of our discoveries because we have something to hide. Yep, the same tired old objections to our theory:  1)  You don't have one.  2)  There's no legitimate research to back up the theory you don't have. I mean come on, evolutionistas, is that the best argument against ID theory you can come up with?   That it doesn't exist?  As we all know, you can't prove a negative, so the theory that there is no ID theory is itself fallacious.  QED, design.   Quote Those of us who have spent hard years grappling with the finer points of Intelligent Design know that nothing could be further from the truth: There is no group I know who work harder to attempt to explain these difficult scientific topics than ourselves. We don't have time to do scientific research, we're too busy "explaining the difficult scientific concepts."  To ourselves.   Quote Intelligent Design is the tiny-seed from which will grow an enormous tree of science It's a lot bigger when it's hard, I swear.  No really.  Stop!  Come back! -------------- "Molecular stuff seems to me not to be biology as much as it is a more atomic element of life" --Creo nut Robert Byers ------ "You need your arrogant ass kicked, and I would LOVE to be the guy who does it. Where do you live?" --Anger Management Problem Concern Troll "Kris"

Reciprocating Bill Posts: 4265 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 30 2007,18:49    Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ Jan. 30 2007,09:11) We still talk about the 'bad air' theory of flash animation. Yes - and there is strangeness in the air. -------------- Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be. "The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." - David Foster Wallace "Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down." - Barry Arrington

Ichthyic Posts: 3325 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 30 2007,19:01    hey richard, this bit you quoted: Quote ...if we choose our targets well we may see the empire of evolution self-destruct made me immediately think of another effective tactic: Quote WORKER: Huuuh! The Judean People's Front! PARVUS: The Judean People's Front! OTTO: Forward all! WORKERS: Look out! The Judean People's Front! The Judean People's Front!... OTTO: Ve are the Judean People's Front. Crack suicide squad. Suicide squad! Attack! [drum roll] J.P.F.: Uh! Ugh. Aggh... OTTO: That showed 'em, huh? Oooh. [whump] BRIAN: You silly sods. -------------- "And the sea will grant each man new hope..." -CC

GCT Posts: 1001 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 30 2007,19:16    Quote (Ichthyic @ Jan. 30 2007,20:01) hey richard, this bit you quoted: Quote ...if we choose our targets well we may see the empire of evolution self-destruct made me immediately think of another effective tactic: Quote WORKER: Huuuh! The Judean People's Front! PARVUS: The Judean People's Front! OTTO: Forward all! WORKERS: Look out! The Judean People's Front! The Judean People's Front!... OTTO: Ve are the Judean People's Front. Crack suicide squad. Suicide squad! Attack! [drum roll] J.P.F.: Uh! Ugh. Aggh... OTTO: That showed 'em, huh? Oooh. [whump] BRIAN: You silly sods. The Judean People's Front are a bunch of silly sods.  The People's Front of Judea on the other hand....

phonon Posts: 396 Joined: Nov. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 30 2007,19:21    Quote (carlsonjok @ Jan. 30 2007,12:24) Quote (Richardthughes @ Jan. 30 2007,12:08) Woah... Some heavy duty ID researh science type stuff: http://www.thedesignmatrix.com/content/let-there-be-light/ Your bravado is futile. Behold! Your end is nigh! EDIT: Dang rules of grammar! I love that post. It's hilarious. From it: Quote As I sit here waiting (and waiting), it has occurred to me that The Design Matrix needs a sound-track. HAHAHA!   Since I don't really have any ID experiments to do, I was waiting and waiting (and waiting) for Jesus to come and I realized that ID needs a good soundtrack. Of course the words go like this, "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the Earth..." Man. Sometimes I feel guilty when I realize that these people really don't understand why they are so ridiculous. -------------- With most men, unbelief in one thing springs from blind belief in another. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg To do just the opposite is also a form of imitation. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg

"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank Posts: 2560 Joined: Feb. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 30 2007,19:24    Quote (GCT @ Jan. 30 2007,19:16) Quote (Ichthyic @ Jan. 30 2007,20:01) hey richard, this bit you quoted:   Quote ...if we choose our targets well we may see the empire of evolution self-destruct made me immediately think of another effective tactic:   Quote WORKER: Huuuh! The Judean People's Front! PARVUS: The Judean People's Front! OTTO: Forward all! WORKERS: Look out! The Judean People's Front! The Judean People's Front!... OTTO: Ve are the Judean People's Front. Crack suicide squad. Suicide squad! Attack! [drum roll] J.P.F.: Uh! Ugh. Aggh... OTTO: That showed 'em, huh? Oooh. [whump] BRIAN: You silly sods. The Judean People's Front are a bunch of silly sods.  The People's Front of Judea on the other hand.... Well, *I* am the Popular Front. So there. -------------- Editor, Red and Black Publishers www.RedandBlackPublishers.com

phonon Posts: 396 Joined: Nov. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 30 2007,19:28    Quote (Henry J @ Jan. 30 2007,16:09) Re "So Mike Gene admits that the entire fossil record of change from fish to man is due to evolutionary change, but is "trivial", "irrelevant" and not "deep"." Well, it was deep while it was fish, since they're underwater, but after they came out on land, it wasn't deep anymore. Now that I've got that all cleared up... :p I thought this was interesting. http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-01/ru-des012907.php Quote "We know that the majority of the DNA in the genomes of some animal and plant species – including humans, mice, wheat and corn – came from HGT insertions," Deem said. "For example, we can trace the development of the adaptive immune system in humans and other jointed vertebrates to an HGT insertion about 400 million years ago." Would evolution of an adaptive immune system qualify as "deep" or at least "non-trivial?" It's amazing to me that it could have happened by a single HGT. Did I read that right? -------------- With most men, unbelief in one thing springs from blind belief in another. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg To do just the opposite is also a form of imitation. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg

Ichthyic Posts: 3325 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 30 2007,19:32    Quote Well, *I* am the Popular Front. bloody splitter! -------------- "And the sea will grant each man new hope..." -CC

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 30 2007,23:44    Quote   Quote (Dr. Lenny, first I get through this semester and then I return from the Galapagos, and then I work on and post the shimmy-quiz animation. I promise.) And post more photos.   Liked them, huh? I am pretty well preserved I admit. A bottle of malt a day--I swear by it. Here's me winning a Halloween costume contest at City Hall. Yes, I'm really real. (Some creepy dude dressed as a zombie harassed me all night. Bleah! RichardtHughes, little innocent.     Quote "What did I do?" -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 31 2007,00:04    Quote (Kristine @ Jan. 30 2007,23:44) Quote     Quote (Dr. Lenny, first I get through this semester and then I return from the Galapagos, and then I work on and post the shimmy-quiz animation. I promise.) :) And post more photos.   :) Liked them, huh? I am pretty well preserved I admit. A bottle of malt a day--I swear by it. Here's me winning a Halloween costume contest at City Hall. Yes, I'm really real. (Some creepy dude dressed as a zombie harassed me all night. Bleah!) RichardtHughes, little innocent.     Quote "What did I do?" :D Oohhhh. Thanks. I was hoping it was one of my TARDOLOGUES.  ??? -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Bob O'H Posts: 2564 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 31 2007,00:33    Quote (djmullen @ Jan. 30 2007,17:16) If you check that .pdf file, you'll see why Dr. Hunter has trouble telling them apart by color.  He's using a coloring book as a reference and it hasn't been colored yet. Hence my joke. I guess it didn't work terribly well after a two page delay.  Curse you (or someone) for bringing this up whilst I was in a meeting about pathetic levels of detail. Bob -------------- It is fun to dip into the various threads to watch cluelessness at work in the hands of the confident exponent. - Soapy Sam (so say we all)

deadman_932 Posts: 3094 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 31 2007,00:33    ENCOURAGING richardthughes. Surely this is a portent of the Apocalypse. Stop, Kristine. I beg of you... stop -- in the name of all that is good -- before it's too late.   -------------- AtBC Award for Thoroughness in the Face of Creationism

k.e Posts: 1948 Joined: Mar. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 31 2007,00:37    Quote (Kristine @ Jan. 31 2007,07:44) Quote     Quote (Dr. Lenny, first I get through this semester and then I return from the Galapagos, and then I work on and post the shimmy-quiz animation. I promise.) :) And post more photos.   :) Liked them, huh? I am pretty well preserved I admit. A bottle of malt a day--I swear by it. Here's me winning a Halloween costume contest at City Hall. Yes, I'm really real. (Some creepy dude dressed as a zombie harassed me all night. Bleah!) RichardtHughes, little innocent.       Quote "What did I do?" :D yeah baby ....hahahahaha....evil grin ....twirls mustache ....I now have the photo to prove Arden is gay unless Richard can come up with a hawt-er photo (of himself) ......and no raiding your '70's video collection of 'pool cleaners'. **...erm looking for a classicly masculine photo in the mold of Apollo versus Kristines Venus **added for clarity and thppp PC. -------------- The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 31 2007,00:57    SHUT UP AND LISTEN, 'CAUSE I'M TALKING. YOU'LL SEE WHATS WAHT IN MY 1000 POST, WHICH IS SOON, AND WILL HAVE ITS OWN THREAD. WE'LL SORT THE MONKEY LOVERS FROM TEH DESIGNED AUTODICTORS (IQ 150+++). HOO-RAH SMEPER TARD. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Reciprocating Bill Posts: 4265 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 31 2007,06:07    Quote (deadman_932 @ Jan. 31 2007,00:33) ENCOURAGING richardthughes. Surely this is a portent of the Apocalypse. Stop, Kristine. I beg of you... stop -- in the name of all that is good -- before it's too late.   Bubba bends over and it's Left Behind. -------------- Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be. "The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." - David Foster Wallace "Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down." - Barry Arrington

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