thordaddy
Posts: 486
Joined: Jan. 2006
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Seven Popes,
I answered your question with an unequivocal NO and you still claim I haven't answered your question.
Will a "gay gene" refute ID, you ask?
No, I say! Homosexuality, given all the current evidence, is a product of free-will and a lifestyle choice.
How much clearer do I need to be?
You start from the assumption that homosexuality is an unalterable genetic orientation. What is this based on, exactly?
What of "bisexuality?"
Are there 2 "gay genes" and 1 "semi-gay gene?"
You say,
| Quote | | Thordaddy believes that homosexuality is wrong, and uses tortured logic to support homophobic teaching. He pointed out that since homosexual men have a greater incidence of HIV/AIDS, we need to teach our students about the dangers of homosexuality. When I pointed out that lesbians have infection rates far below that of heterosexuals, and asked if we should teach our daughters about the virtues of a lesbian life, he fell silent. |
When have I said "homosexuality" was "wrong?" I've only said it was "unnatural" and "abnormal." Even the AMA agreed with me at one point. But what science did they use to change that designation? None! It was a politically-motivated re-evaluation.
And I am not silent on your irrevelant topic of lesbianism. Your question shows how absurd it is to teach EITHER homosexuality or lesbianism to young school children. Just because lesbianism doesn't have outrageous levels of disease is only a greater indication of how "unnatural" and "abnormal" homosexuality really is. There are very DISTINCT differences between lesbianism and homosexuality. Should we teach those differences?
| Quote | | I set up a paradoxical question, Since he postulated the existance of a gay gene in his thread, I would ask him if his designer (clearly to him, it's the Christian God) made homosexuals. Now Thordaddies particular flavor of christianity doesn't think highly of homosexuals (I've seen the insides of their homes, they need gay men more than gays need them. I.D. might also mean interior decorating). It seem unjust for his God to create them (with this "gay gene"), only to send them to Hades. |
Again, another "scientist" who thinks that someone who disagrees with teaching young children about the "normalcy" of homosexuality and gayness MUST be religious. Clearly, this is a fallacious assumption. That's like me claiming that ALL those that SUPPORT the "normalization" of homosexuality are radical left-wing athiests. Is that you, Seven Popes? I've made no religious arguments because they aren't necessary in addressing my concern.
I'm appealing to SCEINCE for answers and all I keep running into are ideologues.
| Quote | | The question was not really about refuting I.D., it was about exposing Thordaddies designer. I believe that Thordaddy is a creationist hiding behind I.D. in order to push his theology into public education. In other posts, he denies that Intelligent Design's credibility was damaged by Kitzmiller v Dover. |
I knew very little about ID or evolution until about 3 months ago when this Dover case made into to the media spotlight. I am a political junkie. I have no intentions of sending my kids to public schools. It's a bureaucracy built for mass mediocrity. It's relevance in the global economy is declining. Why? All of your assumptions are fallacious and a sign of a narrow-minded ideologue.
| Quote | I (regrettably) baited him by pointing out that people who shared his ideology had committed perjury in that court case, in effect "lying for Jesus". I used the Judge Jones quote:
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"It is ironic that several of these individuals, who so staunchly and proudly touted their religious convictions in public, would time and again lie to cover their tracks and disguise the real purpose behind the ID Policy." |
Since when did one man's opinion because gospel? LOL! There is your ideology showing again.
Judge Jones acts as if religious people and IDers HAVE to be one in the same and the area of their specific endeavors are entirely the same. What a blinkered and ignorant view.
| Quote | | Since then, Thordaddy will hardly repond to any of my posts, and when he does, it's by attempting to derail this thread or by pummeling his straw man, not mine. He can't honestly answer the question |
No! How much more honest do need me to be?
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