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Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 29 2014,11:50    Quote (Soapy Sam @ Jan. 14 2014,15:57) Quote (Tony M Nyphot @ Jan. 14 2014,19:24)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 14 2014,08:42) Grandmaster Chubs � � �   Quote Joe January 14, 2014 at 7:55 am nightlight- I have never lost a game of chess to any computer. If you know of one that you think can beat me, please reference it and I will have a go. Fighter pilot, Olympic power lifter, evolutionary biologist, Iraqi war hero, GA programmer, baraminologist, all in his spare time from fixing toasters. �:D �:D �:D Stupendous! I find it amusing to see Joe desperately creating increasingly insulting posts at his blog hoping someone...anyone...will react with a comment. I'm happy to say no one is. Please...all of you...keep as ticks to watermelon and let the fun continue. I had to look though. This gem:   Quote Proof that evolutionists are totally clueless wrt science is their question "What prevents macoevolution from happening?"- ie they want us to demonstrate a negative. Demonstrating the existence of something is proving the negative, now? :) YOU have to demonstrate the existence of macroevolution, not me. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 29 2014,11:56    Quote (olegt @ Jan. 19 2014,20:28) Joe demonstrates amazing consistency in his inability to learn. He is having a discussion with Zachriel about nested hierarchies, a subject that he has been long unable to understand. For five or six at least seven years, Zachriel has tried to explain that to Joe, and yet he still has no idea which entities form a nested hierarchy in the tree of life. The latest proof: � Quote NOTE- A parent population does NOT consist of nor contain it's daughter populations. That is why any tree of life is not a nested hierarchy. I'm going to repeat what I have said elebenty zillion times. (Here is a link from five years ago.) It's clades, Joe. CLADES! Clades form a nested hierarchy. Not populations. And yes oleg, populations do not form nested hierarchies. And that is why a tree of life does not form a nested hierarchy- it is comprised of populations. Thank you. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

NoName Posts: 2729 Joined: Mar. 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 29 2014,12:03    Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 29 2014,12:50) ... YOU have to demonstrate the existence of macroevolution, not me. It has already been proven, in the only way that matters. Just as the ability to walk from New York to New Jersey proves that one can walk from New York to Los Angeles. Or New York to Tierra del Fuego. Insurmountable barriers? That's your claim, you demonstrate it.

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 29 2014,12:20    Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 29 2014,09:56) Thank you. No "needle-dick asshole"?  He's getting soft.  Still stupid, but soft. -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

olegt Posts: 1405 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 29 2014,12:49    Clades, Joe! It's clades that form a nested hierarchy! -------------- If you are not: Galapagos Finch please Logout �

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 29 2014,13:33    Quote (NoName @ Jan. 29 2014,12:03) Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 29 2014,12:50) ... YOU have to demonstrate the existence of macroevolution, not me. It has already been proven, in the only way that matters. Just as the ability to walk from New York to New Jersey proves that one can walk from New York to Los Angeles. Or New York to Tierra del Fuego. Insurmountable barriers? That's your claim, you demonstrate it. No, it hasn't been proven and your analogy is bullshit. There isn't one instance of microevolution that can extrapolated into macroevolution. Anti-biotic resistance? Not a chance Peppered moths? Not a chance Beaks of the finch? Not a chance You've got nothing but to hide behind father time. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 29 2014,13:34    Kevin McCarthy and his child-like intellect: Quote Unfortunately, Behe isn�t really our best choice for this. Despite being a fellow at the Discovery Institute and writing several books on the subject, he can�t even keep a straight definition of ID. Check the underlined parts of these two statements from the Dover trial: Quote Q If we could go to page 11 of your report and highlight the underscored text. You say, �Intelligent design theory focuses exclusively on the proposed mechanism of how complex biological structures arose.� Correct? A That is correct, yes. Q That�s consistent with your testimony today. A Yes, it is. Dover Trial Testimony � A = Dr. Michael Behe link Yes, in that context he was talking some unguided processes vs. some design processes. Quote Followed by Quote Q. And before we leave the blood clotting system, can you just remind the Court the mechanism by which intelligent design creates the blood clotting system? A. Well, as I mentioned before, intelligent design does not say, a mechanism, but what it does say is, one important factor in the production of systems, and that is that, at some point in the pathway, intelligence was involved. Dover Trial Testimony � A = Dr. Michael Behe link So, while ID focuses on the mechanism of how complex biological structures arose, there is no actual mechanism. Got that, thanks Michael. No, moron, we don�t know what that specific design mechanism was and knowing what it was is not part of Intelligent Design. It is not required to know how something was designed before determining it was designed. Context is always important and always ignored by Kevin. Edited by Wesley R. Elsberry on Jan. 29 2014,18:39 -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

NoName Posts: 2729 Joined: Mar. 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 29 2014,13:36    Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 29 2014,14:33) Quote (NoName @ Jan. 29 2014,12:03) Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 29 2014,12:50) ... YOU have to demonstrate the existence of macroevolution, not me. It has already been proven, in the only way that matters. Just as the ability to walk from New York to New Jersey proves that one can walk from New York to Los Angeles. Or New York to Tierra del Fuego. Insurmountable barriers? That's your claim, you demonstrate it. No, it hasn't been proven and your analogy is bullshit. There isn't one instance of microevolution that can extrapolated into macroevolution. And yet, you can neither explain nor demonstrate why. Hardly compelling. Meanwhile, ID can't even get a pedestrian out of NY.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 29 2014,13:36    Quote (olegt @ Jan. 29 2014,12:49) Clades, Joe! It's clades that form a nested hierarchy! ;) Oleg chokes on cladistics Why do you keep bringing it up? -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 29 2014,13:37    Quote (NoName @ Jan. 29 2014,13:36) Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 29 2014,14:33) Quote (NoName @ Jan. 29 2014,12:03)   Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 29 2014,12:50) ... YOU have to demonstrate the existence of macroevolution, not me. It has already been proven, in the only way that matters. Just as the ability to walk from New York to New Jersey proves that one can walk from New York to Los Angeles. Or New York to Tierra del Fuego. Insurmountable barriers? That's your claim, you demonstrate it. No, it hasn't been proven and your analogy is bullshit. There isn't one instance of microevolution that can extrapolated into macroevolution. And yet, you can neither explain nor demonstrate why. Hardly compelling. Meanwhile, ID can't even get a pedestrian out of NY. LoL! YOU can't demonstrate anything. You can't even get around the block. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 29 2014,13:38    Messed up a quote tag- didn't close one apparently. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 29 2014,13:58    Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 29 2014,13:33) No, it hasn't been proven and your analogy is bullshit. I presume that chubs is talking about universe / life being designed because *people* design stuff. I'll read the rest later. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Driver Posts: 649 Joined: June 2011 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 29 2014,14:52    You've broken it, Joe. -------------- Why would I concern myself with evidence, when IMO "evidence" is only the mind arranging thought and matter to support what one already wishes to believe? - William J Murray [A]t this time a forum like this one is nothing less than a national security risk. - Gary Gaulin

Driver Posts: 649 Joined: June 2011 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 29 2014,14:54    Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 29 2014,19:33) You've got nothing but to hide behind father time. Granted, without time there could be no unguided evolution. -------------- Why would I concern myself with evidence, when IMO "evidence" is only the mind arranging thought and matter to support what one already wishes to believe? - William J Murray [A]t this time a forum like this one is nothing less than a national security risk. - Gary Gaulin

NoName Posts: 2729 Joined: Mar. 2013 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 29 2014,15:46    Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 29 2014,14:37) Quote (NoName @ Jan. 29 2014,13:36) Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 29 2014,14:33)   Quote (NoName @ Jan. 29 2014,12:03) � Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 29 2014,12:50) ... YOU have to demonstrate the existence of macroevolution, not me. It has already been proven, in the only way that matters. Just as the ability to walk from New York to New Jersey proves that one can walk from New York to Los Angeles. Or New York to Tierra del Fuego. Insurmountable barriers? That's your claim, you demonstrate it. No, it hasn't been proven and your analogy is bullshit. There isn't one instance of microevolution that can extrapolated into macroevolution. And yet, you can neither explain nor demonstrate why. Hardly compelling. Meanwhile, ID can't even get a pedestrian out of NY. LoL! YOU can't demonstrate anything. You can't even get around the block. OK, if you're going to fall back on lies this early on, there's no need for us to continue. You lose, as always.

Soapy Sam Posts: 659 Joined: Jan. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 29 2014,15:52    Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 29 2014,19:33) Quote (NoName @ Jan. 29 2014,12:03) Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 29 2014,12:50) ... YOU have to demonstrate the existence of macroevolution, not me. It has already been proven, in the only way that matters. Just as the ability to walk from New York to New Jersey proves that one can walk from New York to Los Angeles. Or New York to Tierra del Fuego. Insurmountable barriers? That's your claim, you demonstrate it. No, it hasn't been proven and your analogy is bullshit. There isn't one instance of microevolution that can extrapolated into macroevolution. Anti-biotic resistance? Not a chance Peppered moths? Not a chance Beaks of the finch? Not a chance You've got nothing but to hide behind father time. So what's the fucking barrier, Joe? -------------- SoapySam is a pathetic asswiper. Joe G BTW, when you make little jabs like “I thought basic logic was one thing UDers could handle,” you come off looking especially silly when you turn out to be wrong. - Barry Arrington

OgreMkV Posts: 3668 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 29 2014,16:33    You know what you remind me of Joe? Christian apologists... "NO! This what x passage really means. Oh wait, except for that part, which is literal truth, unless you use it against me, then it's metaphor." LOL Face Joe, within two dozen sentences Behe, like you contradicted himself.  He explained things pretty well.  There's no real room for interpretation. But that doesn't stop ID apologists from trying to salvage their cute little notion. Meanwhile, evolution continues to happen. Joe, have you read my long explanation of why macroevolution really doesn't exist?  It's a misunderstanding that creationists have. You don't get it, because your entire argument (your life over the last few years) demands that you not get it. Fine, whatever.  A guest post on a blog read by 10-15 people.  Woo Hoo! Tell you what.  Let's race.  I bet I get my book published before you! -------------- Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims. http://skepticink.com/smilodo....retreat

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 29 2014,16:51    LOL, Chubs: Quote ...we don�t know what that specific design mechanism was... Design is a mechanism, but not a specific mechanism... -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 29 2014,17:08    How do we get the post alignment "unbroke"? -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 29 2014,17:32    test[/QUOTE] Edited by midwifetoad on Jan. 29 2014,17:35 -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 29 2014,18:30    I know that practically everything Joe G touches turns to shit but breaking the board display??? -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 29 2014,18:43    Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 29 2014,13:38) Messed up a quote tag- didn't close one apparently. Quotes, links, just about anything that actually requires paired opening and closing markup. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 29 2014,18:53    I believe some sites block this by enclosing user posts in DIV tags. Or something like that. -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

OgreMkV Posts: 3668 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 29 2014,19:26    Quote (midwifetoad @ Jan. 29 2014,18:53) I believe some sites block this by enclosing user posts in DIV tags. Or something like that. I would suggest something like this <p style="font-color:white;font-size:1px;"> But that's just me. -------------- Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims. http://skepticink.com/smilodo....retreat

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 29 2014,21:14    Quote (midwifetoad @ Jan. 29 2014,18:53) I believe some sites block this by enclosing user posts in DIV tags. Or something like that. Nice idea. Even better on "Board Mechanics". Probably hackable without too much trouble. -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 29 2014,22:39    Quote (Richardthughes @ Jan. 30 2014,00:51) LOL, Chubs: Quote ...we don�t know what that specific design mechanism was... Design is a mechanism, but not a specific mechanism... What Joe can't grok (because he's a muslim? ...snikker) is that the unmentioned specificity of the creationist design mechanism is... Hebrews 11:3 By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible. What Joe must do is explain how the sheep herders of his bronze age Lord could better explain (than the current explanation) to scientists the specific mechanisms of faith that caused the universe to be formed. How much energy did the Lord need to create the universe Joe? Once you have that then you know how much energy is missing from faith. -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

Quack Posts: 1961 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 30 2014,03:58    Quote How much energy did the Lord need to create the universe Joe? Once you have that then you know how much energy is missing from faith. You raise some poignant and powerful questions there. If you can answer them, you know where you are. -------------- Rocks have no biology.               Robert Byers.

didymos Posts: 1828 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 30 2014,05:48    What amazes me is that Joe still doesn't realize he's nothing but a lolcow to us. Seriously, Joe: the only reason anyone here bothers talking to you is because you're guaranteed to say something hilariously stupid. -------------- I wouldn't be bothered reading about the selfish gene because it has never been identified. -- Denyse O'Leary, professional moron Again "how much". I don't think that's a good way to be quantitative.-- gpuccio

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 30 2014,06:15    Yeah he doesn't realize he's -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 30 2014,13:59    Quote (Richardthughes @ Jan. 29 2014,16:51) LOL, Chubs: Quote ...we don�t know what that specific design mechanism was... Design is a mechanism, but not a specific mechanism... LoL! That is exactly what I have been saying- what is wrong with you? -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

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