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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2007,12:44   

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One other question .....how old does ID say the earth is?


ID has no position on the age of the earth. No opinion at all. It's unimportant. Don't ask, don't tell. As long as you 'believe in' ID, any age you posit for the earth is correct. Why are you bringing that up, are you trying to cause trouble?

 
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A living trilobite would be very unlikely, but would not violate the nested hierarchy.


I think a living trilobite would be so cool! Would they look awesome in an aquarium, or what?

 
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Yogi Bear typified the era of 100% fire suppression.


Yogi Bear typified the era of Don't feed the Bears!


And something about stealing picnic baskets from rangers, if I recall correctly.

 
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We have found evidence of lush fossil forests in Antartica. Why is that??? Was antartica a warm place once upon a time and then we had global cooling?


Believe it or not, there's reason to believe that Antarctica stayed green and glacier-free for millions of years AFTER it was located over the South Pole. No one understands why this should be so, but contrary to what Sal thinks, it does not "prove ID".

I too am very amused by Sal's game attempts to do geology without actually, you know, KNOWING anything about it.

 
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That would be a good place to find pre-cambrian rabbits.


I think this is a fantastic way to keep Sal busy and out of trouble. Sort of like giving a child coloring books.

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N.Wells



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2007,12:52   

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Global warming alarmists today remind me of the scientific consensus on controlling forest fires 40 years ago. How many of you recall seeing Yogi Smokey the Bear adverts saying “Only YOU can prevent forest fires”? In fact, as we learned the hard way, fire suppression turned out to be a bad thing. Nature had adapted herself to periodic forest fires. Certain trees had become resistant to harm from low intensity fires but would be destroyed in fires where 50 years worth of fuel had accumulated. Periodic fires cleared the landscape and species that had adapted to freshly cleared ground cover got their turn at bat. Decades of fire suppression set up our forests for disaster.

Similarly, the earth has undergone periodic warming and cooling for hundreds of millions of years. Nature has adapted to that cycle. The environmentalist concern is highly misplaced. The earth and life on the earth is accustomed to these warming/cooling cycles and if we knew as much as we think we know we’d probably know that not only is the ecosphere adapted to these cycles, these cycles are needed for optimum long term health of the ecosphere and biodiversity just like forest ecosystems need regular forest fires for optimum health and biodiversity.


Whole new depths of stupidity here.  Dave's so focussed on proving that global warming is not a problem that he has forgotten that ID is not so comfortable with evolution, natural adaptation, and natural selection.  

Organisms can and do adapt to natural 'disasters' like fires that recur within more or less generational time frames.  However the record of climate change over geological time frames (tens of millions of years) tends to be extinctions and faunal replacement.  If we were talking about cycles that life had adapted to, shouldn't we see the same organisms recurring?  How come the world no longer has Hyracotheriums, Unitatheres, Chalicotheriums, Indricotheriums, Coryphodons, Diatrymas, and so forth?    I'm not sure how the disappearance of Eocene forest specialists and their replacement by Miocene grassland specialists is a good thing from the point of view of the Eocene animals.  If global warming is merely another turn of these cycles, how do we know that humans aren't the Uintatheres in the upcoming change?

  
Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2007,12:53   

       
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Let me back up a sec.. when I say science, I don’t neccessarily mean science that you only find in books or labs w/ beakers, flasks & test tubes. Here it means also the innate sense of ’science’ that I think all of us have from birth.


This is so beautiful it brings tears to my eyes.
   
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...ah watching the UD guys think is like watching tards on a short bus tickling themselves....it's so stupid it's hilarious.


My mental image has long been of a bunch of little kids getting dressed up in lab coats that are far too big for them (sleeves way past their hands, hems of the coats dragging on the floor) fumbling around playing 'scientist' with a bunch of test tubes and microscopes in their attic while their parents are away.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2007,13:04   

Quote (Alan Fox @ Feb. 16 2007,05:29)
Additions to UD banned list:

Josh Bozeman homo, ID is not about religion, momma's boy.

Keiths Homo, asked one too many awkward questions.

Wow. Isn't Josh Bozeman, Dembski's "research" assistard? The one that has the hooha fixation?


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phonon



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2007,13:10   

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Once upon a time, it was thought the coelacanth had not existed for hundreds of millions of years. Would Shermer disbelieve Darwinian evolution if he found living trilobite?

A living trilobite would be very unlikely, but would not violate the nested hierarchy. However, human remains found in undisturbed strata associated with trilobites would indicate that humans predated their posited ancestor. That would violate the nested hierarchy, so either the phylogenetic tree is seriously wrong or the entire concept of descent leading to humans is wrong. All the evidence, including thousands of fossils, supports common descent of humans with other mammals.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/02/16/frog.in.amber.ap/index.html

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Frog in amber could be 25 million years old

Like those, the frog found in Chiapas appears to be of the genus Craugastor, whose descendants still inhabit the region, said biologist Gerardo Carbot of the Chiapas Natural History and Ecology Institute, who announced the discovery this week.

Hey, if frogs were around 25 million years ago, why are there still frogs?

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2007,13:14   

Wanted, to raise fire prevention awareness:






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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2007,13:34   

He's also moved the pathway from

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http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/global-warming-and-forest-fires/


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http://www.uncommondescent.com/science/global-warming-and-forest-fires/


I remember having fun with them over "ID is like detecting arson".. except arson usually tells us things like "who", "how"... those 'pathetic details', ya know?

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phonon



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2007,13:41   

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....shermer

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“Bill Dembski is world famous” ...

And that's all that matters to him.


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Bill Dembski mentioned the infamous Wistar Convention of 1966 where the world’s top neo-Darwinists were bludgeoned by mathematicians and computer scientists.
Oh NO! Not 1966!

It sounds like a creationists' convention dressed up in math and science. Hey! The first Intelligent Design Proponents!

O wait, it is really just a case of quote mining to the extreme.
http://www-gatago.com/talk/origins/22800823.html

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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2007,13:55   

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Wow. Isn't Josh Bozeman, Dembski's "research" assistard? The one that has the hooha fixation?


No, different tard. You're thinking of Joel Borofsky, former elite Member of the Board of UD, but now fallen strangely silent, for some reason.

Josh Bozeman is just a legendary rightwing fundie and hapless dingbat from his mother's basement in Evansville, Indiana.

Here's HIS headache-inducing website, if you're feeling masochistic today.

 
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Hey, if frogs were around 25 million years ago, why are there still frogs?

I don't know, but you're not around here anymore. -dt

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N.Wells



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2007,14:38   

Salvador hits new lows of geological understanding, even for him, in a recent post:
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Let us also, for the sake of argument, say the Earth is Old. Why then over 100,000,000 years is 600 some meters of continent not fully eroded into the sea? 6 centimeters of erosion per 10,000 years would do the trick, and even with tectonic crustal recycling, we ought not to have geological strata with 300,000,000 year old fossils. Something of basic geo-paleontology is amiss. This is a very BASIC question. It does not immediately argue for a young earth, but it puts into doubt why there should be a geological column strata in the first place. The answers offered have been almost as bad as the defense of OOL and Darwinian evolution.
If there were enough money, I would say antartica would have some very interesting fossils preserved there. I wonder what we would find?
We have found evidence of lush fossil forests in Antartica. Why is that??? Was antartica a warm place once upon a time and then we had global cooling? What sort of fossils will we find? Furthermore, these fossils, being possibly frozen may give us soft-tissue samples and not just decayed bones!


Over time the continents have grown in volume and area.  This has mostly happened via differentiation of mantle-derived magma and oceanic crust, and by cycling of material from basalts via weathering to clays and other silicates, thence being turned into sedimentary rocks, and finally being added to crystalline cores of continents during regional metamorphism resulting from plate collisions.

The average erosion of continents is about 0.03 mm/yr, but that’s only an average.  Over time, parts of continents are going up, and other parts are subsiding.  Generally, the subsiding parts end up accumulating sedimentary strata (i.e. forming basins, in a general sense), whereas the uplifting parts experience erosion.  (However, there are complications such as intermontane basins like the “Vale of Kashmir”, and former thick basins that are now eroding, like Ohio and Michigan.)

If Salvador looks at geological maps of continents he will see large areas of exposed Precambrian crystalline rock (cratons or shields), which are areas of substantial long term erosion that balance out the areas of long term accumulation.  Even more useful to clearing Salvador’s misunderstandings would be a map showing the depth of formation of metamorphic rocks currently exposed at the surface, because that tells how much erosion has happened in order to get those rocks exposed on the surface.  For example, the rocks exposed on Nanga Parbat were buried 5 km down only 400,000 years ago.  The Sierra Nevadas have experienced 8-16 km of uplift and erosion.  The Appalachians, 8 km; the Adirondacks, 24 km; the New Zealand Alps, 16-24 km; and the European Alps, 30 km.

We have of course been looking for fossils in Antarctica.  It was indeed once much warmer, partly because it was once not over the South Pole (e.g. during the Paleozoic and Mesozoic), and secondly because even some of the time it was over the south pole, the earth overall was much warmer (e.g., during the Eocene).  Since freezing was not rapid, there’s not much chance of frozen soft-tissue fossils except locally in the second half of the Cenozoic (e.g. some diatomites interbedded with tillites of Miocene and Pliocene age, indicating some episodes of extensive deglaciation and reglaciation at those times).

It is also worth pointing out that Sal's continued insistence on having successfully browbeaten various geologists with respect to plumes and convection is delusional.

  
Ichthyic



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2007,15:37   

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I think a living trilobite would be so cool! Would they look awesome in an aquarium, or what?


why, it would probably look an awful lot like this:




note that horseshoe crabs are NOT trilobytes, but if you've seen fossils of trilobytes, there is a lot of similarity.

BTW, I used to have some of these guys in a tropical marine aquarium, and they are pretty cool.

chew with their legs, swim with their gills (well, kinda)...

can't recall exactly how hardy they are, but they do have a tendency to tear up the decor.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2007,15:41   

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Josh Bozeman is just a legendary rightwing fundie and hapless dingbat from his mother's basement in Evansville, Indiana.

Here's HIS headache-inducing website, if you're feeling masochistic today.

Oh. My. God. Josh Bozeman looks like... me.

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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2007,16:00   

OE's rising star, SChen:

http://www.uncommondescent.com/science....t-92123

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I’m still confused how global warming ends up on a blog about intelligent design this often.




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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2007,17:01   

franky172      
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Scientific statements must make testable predictions

Joseph      
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Do you have a citation that supports that premise?

To me a scientific statement is one borne from years of scientific research.

Yeah, franky 1-7-2. What were you thinking!? Just look in the Websters.
scientific method: principles and procedures for the systematic pursuit of knowledge involving the recognition and formulation of a problem, the collection of data through observation and experiment, and the formulation and testing of hypotheses.
hypothesis, a tentative assumption made in order to draw out and test its logical or empirical consequences.

Well, then try the Britannica.

hypothetico-deductive method: procedure for the construction of a scientific theory that will account for results obtained through direct observation and experimentation and that will, through inference, predict further effects that can then be verified or disproved by empirical evidence derived from other experiments. Developed by Sir Isaac Newton during the late 17th century ...

Well, what does he know!? He's dead!

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2007,17:15   

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OE's rising star, SChen:

http://www.uncommondescent.com/science....t-92123

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I’m still confused how global warming ends up on a blog about intelligent design this often.

If the data is clear but confusing, you need to be interpreting it through a different model. If you try reading UD under the model 'these people, and especially Davetard, are revolutionary, highly learned scientists', you're going to be confused immediately.

Why does global warming come up so often?
Why do they also disagree with cancer researchers about cancer, information theorists about information theory, virus researchers about HIV, etc etc.
Why are legitimate scientists quickly banned from the site?
Why can't they find enough papers to publish even their quarterly journal?
Why are they contacting school boards?
What's this Wedge business?
etc
etc
etc

If you change your model slightly, and interpret UD under the model 'these people are clueless and arrogant, and Davetard is a poor man's Rush Limbaugh', all those questions have obvious answers.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2007,17:36   

Quote (argystokes @ Feb. 17 2007,15:41)
 
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Josh Bozeman is just a legendary rightwing fundie and hapless dingbat from his mother's basement in Evansville, Indiana.

Here's HIS headache-inducing website, if you're feeling masochistic today.

Oh. My. God. Josh Bozeman looks like... me.

Hate to say it, but there is a resemblance.  Doppelganger, perhaps? Beyond the "look alike" aspect, some definitions also include the characteristics of "evil twin" or "opposite personalities."

Consider:

argy and Bozeman look alike? Check.
argy: atheist.  Bozeman: fundie
argy: biological sciences grad student.  Bozeman: IDiot
argy: funny.  Bozeman: not so much

Seems like a perfect match.   :)

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2007,19:14   

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Feb. 17 2007,13:55)
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Wow. Isn't Josh Bozeman, Dembski's "research" assistard? The one that has the hooha fixation?


No, different tard. You're thinking of Joel Borofsky, former elite Member of the Board of UD, but now fallen strangely silent, for some reason.

Josh Bozeman is just a legendary rightwing fundie and hapless dingbat from his mother's basement in Evansville, Indiana.

Here's HIS headache-inducing website, if you're feeling masochistic today.

Wow-that was NOT what I was expecting.
My impression of Bozeman was that he was a barely employed high school grad living in his mom's house. This is not what I expected.

I know, I know...judging a book by its cover...

BTW, I wanna spot on the UD banned list .Where do I apply?
KL

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2007,20:00   

Hmmmm..

http://www.uncommondescent.com/science....t-92139

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4

bFast

02/17/2007

7:35 pm
DaveScot, do you know of any good global warming blogs around?

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DaveScot

02/17/2007

8:15 pm
bFast

Yeah, this one.


DOWN WITH SCIENCE!



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2007,20:10   

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Wow. Isn't Josh Bozeman, Dembski's "research" assistard? The one that has the hooha fixation?


No, different tard. You're thinking of Joel Borofsky, former elite Member of the Board of UD, but now fallen strangely silent, for some reason.

Josh Bozeman is just a legendary rightwing fundie and hapless dingbat from his mother's basement in Evansville, Indiana.

Here's HIS headache-inducing website, if you're feeling masochistic today.

Wow-that was NOT what I was expecting.
My impression of Bozeman was that he was a barely employed high school grad living in his mom's house. This is not what I expected.

I know, I know...judging a book by its cover...


Well I notice that his site seems very evasive about what, if anything, he does for a living. It says "Occupation: Media/Television", which could mean he's a temp at a TV station, given that he does not have any college degree. We are talking Evansville, Indiana here.

 
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BTW, I wanna spot on the UD banned list .Where do I apply?
KL

Well, that depends -- have you actually BEEN banned from UD yet?  :p

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2007,20:16   

I just bothered to take a quick look at that guy Josh Bozeman's site. Scary. Damm. Talk about tragicomedy

It's a pity that he's got some kind of social anxiety disorder and he's 28 and living at his parent's home. It's sad that he's never been to college, that he's single (quelle surprise!) with no apparent job that I could read about, and that he's a right-wing nutter whose thought processes ( if his writing is an indicator) are seriously whacked.

I'd almost really feel sorry for the guy if he weren't a complete sphincter.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2007,20:18   

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I just bothered to take a quick look at that guy Josh Bozeman's site. Scary. Damm. Talk about tragicomedy

It's a pity that he's got some kind of social anxiety disorder and he's 28 and living at home. It's sad that he's never been to college, that he's single (quelle surprise!) with no apparent job that I could read about, and that he's a right-wing nutter whose thought processes ( if his writing is an indicator) are seriously whacked.

I'd almost really feel sorry for the guy if he weren't a complete sphincter.

NAME: Joshua Taj Bozeman

AGE: 27 (12/21/1978)

HEIGHT: 6'4"

WEIGHT: 250

LOCATION: Evansville, Indiana

HIGH SCHOOL: Boonville High School (Boonville, Indiana)

COLLEGE: Soon

MARITAL STATUS: Single

College Soon! also, he's 6'3 on another part of his site. Funny how creotards get their height wrong..

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2007,20:18   

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BTW, I wanna spot on the UD banned list .Where do I apply?
KL

Well, that depends -- have you actually BEEN banned from UD yet?  :p

Yep. Got banned a few months ago, and still can't get back on. Sometimes when I read UD it is like having an itchy trigger finger and no gun. I hate letting stupidity go unanswered. However, challenges are submitted by others, but they too are soon banned.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2007,20:25   

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BTW, I wanna spot on the UD banned list .Where do I apply?
KL

Well, that depends -- have you actually BEEN banned from UD yet?  :p

Yep. Got banned a few months ago, and still can't get back on. Sometimes when I read UD it is like having an itchy trigger finger and no gun. I hate letting stupidity go unanswered. However, challenges are submitted by others, but they too are soon banned.

Well, it's up to you -- think back to whatever it was that got you banned, channel Dave Scot, and try and imagine how Dave would describe the reason you were banned. Put it in boldface, make it funny, and be sure and include the word 'homo' in it somewhere.

:p

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2007,20:30   

*shakes his fist at Richardthughes* Curse you, damm you, damm you to HECK, Richardthughes!! I'll get you one day, you wait and see! Then we'll see who laughs last.

I must retire now to my mother's basement while I formulate my TARD (Total Absolute Richardthughes Domination) plans. From he11's dark heart, I stab at thee!

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2007,20:32   

lkeithlu homo-itchy trigger finger and no gun. Banned months ago, don't come back -dt

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2007,20:37   

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I just bothered to take a quick look at that guy Josh Bozeman's site. Scary. Damm. Talk about tragicomedy

It's a pity that he's got some kind of social anxiety disorder and he's 28 and living at his parent's home. It's sad that he's never been to college, that he's single (quelle surprise!) with no apparent job that I could read about, and that he's a right-wing nutter whose thought processes ( if his writing is an indicator) are seriously whacked.

I'd almost really feel sorry for the guy if he weren't a complete sphincter.

I know what you mean. What does it tell you that he's a total wingnut Christian who can't stand Muslims and liberals, hates evolution, sucked up to William Dembski, and despite all that DAVE SCOT AND BILL DEMBSKI STILL CAN'T STAND HIM? Ouch.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2007,20:39   

**Disclaimer:** I didn't mean to imply that my Mom's basement was "he11's dark heart," although it seems like it lately, what with Mom not having spoken to me in almost 2 years as she sits in the corner in her rocking chair. She refuses to move, but she keeps staring at me with her accusing eyes. Her huge, cavernous accusing eyes that follow me everywhere now.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2007,20:43   

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**Disclaimer:** I didn't mean to imply that my Mom's basement was "he11's dark heart,"


Well, how about "heck's dark heart?" More accurate?

 
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although it seems like it lately, what with Mom not having spoken to me in almost 2 years as she sits in the corner in her rocking chair. She refuses to move, but she keeps staring at me with her accusing eyes. Her huge, cavernous accusing eyes that follow me everywhere now.

Probably kinda puts a damper on parties, eh?

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2007,20:46   

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Probably kinda puts a damper on parties, eh?

Oh, I don't know about that. I've asked Josh Bozeman to tunnel his way on over here so we can have a big tea party with all my action-figure friends. Josh says he needs the company.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 17 2007,20:49   

http://www.uncommondescent.com/biology....t-92148

For a man who should know a bit about search, he's a class A tard. It isn't random search, that would be blind-walk.

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