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Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 19 2018,17:36    Anyone who knows how to use a dictionary can see that design is a mechanism. For example: A mechanism is a process, technique, or system for achieving a result- Design is to create, fashion, execute, or construct according to plan. A plan is a process, technique, or system for achieving a result. Therefor design is a mechanism. It is a very simple and basic thing to understand. As a matter of fact the only people who don't think that design is a mechanism are uneducated people. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 19 2018,17:37    Quote Every scientist on the planet says CO2 traps heat. Liar -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 19 2018,17:39    Quote (Joe G @ May 19 2018,17:31) You all choked when I said that in order for that to be true then all of the radiation had to be back towards earth. That's one of the many reasons we know you're such a dumbass Joke.  For the planet to be warmer with atmospheric CO2 than without it ALL of the infrared radiation doesn't have to be back towards Earth, only SOME of it has to be to increase the temperature.  Any amount directed back towards the planet will increase the temperature more than none radiated back. Simple physics is just too hard for an ignorant toaster repairman.   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 19 2018,17:43    Quote (Joe G @ May 19 2018,17:36) Design is to create, fashion, execute, or construct according to plan. Same old stupidity from the Joke.  Saying "design" doesn't tell you the physical mechanisms used to construct an object.  It doesn't tell you where the materials came from or how they were physically manipulated. With your ID-Creation claims you have no physical mechanism for how the "Designer" physically manipulated matter to get it into the desired position to construct your created "kinds".   Simple concepts are just too advanced for a dumbass like Joke.   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 19 2018,17:44    Quote (Joe G @ May 19 2018,18:33) CO2 doesn't trap heat as heat is KINETIC energy- it is always moving This makes zero sense. My blanket traps heat. Is my blanket moving?

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 19 2018,17:56    Quote You all choked when I said that in order for that to be true then all of the radiation had to be back towards earth. Also makes no sense. It's reradiated randomly, and about 50% of the time that means back toward earth. Have you figured out how that's true yet Joe? We could show you the math (it's pretty simple to work out with high-school trig) but it's more fun watching you fail to understand basic things while tying to lecture us. (Oh shit, I'll give you a hint. If you want to work it out with trig you just need one Arccosine term.)

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 19 2018,17:57    Quote CO2 doesn't trap heat as heat is KINETIC energy- it is always moving I'm posting that on Facebook so any of my friends who know chemistry or physics can have a laugh.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 19 2018,18:41    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ May 19 2018,17:43) Quote (Joe G @ May 19 2018,17:36) Design is to create, fashion, execute, or construct according to plan. Same old stupidity from the Joke.  Saying "design" doesn't tell you the physical mechanisms used to construct an object.  It doesn't tell you where the materials came from or how they were physically manipulated. With your ID-Creation claims you have no physical mechanism for how the "Designer" physically manipulated matter to get it into the desired position to construct your created "kinds".   Simple concepts are just too advanced for a dumbass like Joke.   :D Design is to create, fashion, execute, or construct according to plan. Construction is the physical implementation. How do you think houses are made, timmy? Do you think they do it all by design or do people just start grabbing materials and putting it wherever? Creating, fashioning and executing a plan is not waving blueprints around. Constructing a house according to a plan is not waving blueprints around. And when compared to natural selection design is just as valid. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 19 2018,18:44    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ May 19 2018,17:39) Quote (Joe G @ May 19 2018,17:31) You all choked when I said that in order for that to be true then all of the radiation had to be back towards earth. That's one of the many reasons we know you're such a dumbass Joke.  For the planet to be warmer with atmospheric CO2 than without it ALL of the infrared radiation doesn't have to be back towards Earth, only SOME of it has to be to increase the temperature.  Any amount directed back towards the planet will increase the temperature more than none radiated back. Simple physics is just too hard for an ignorant toaster repairman.  :) You goal post moving faggot. I said in order for CO2 to act like a blanket. Blankets keep the radiated body heat from leaving. That means anyone who says CO2 acts like a blanket is saying the CO2 is all lined up such that it all radiates directly back towards the earth. It isn't my fault that you don't understand the implications of what you spew. And blankets don't just hold in 8% of the body's radiated heat to begin with -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 19 2018,18:45    Quote (stevestory @ May 19 2018,17:57) Quote CO2 doesn't trap heat as heat is KINETIC energy- it is always moving I'm posting that on Facebook so any of my friends who know chemistry or physics can have a laugh. :p  :p  :p All you have to do is a yahoo or google search and you will find what I posted talked about on the interweb. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 19 2018,18:49    Too bad that is not how it works in the real world. For one CO2 only sees 8% of what is radiated from earth. For another most of what is re-emitted doesn't get back to the earth mostly because the earth as the source is already hotter than the atmosphere. Heat travels from hot to cold All the alleged greenhouses gasses do is slow the radiated heat's travel as it rises through the atmosphere. And with CO2 at 410 parts per million it only as the most minimal of effects in that regard. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 19 2018,18:52    Quote (stevestory @ May 19 2018,17:56) Quote You all choked when I said that in order for that to be true then all of the radiation had to be back towards earth. Also makes no sense. It's reradiated randomly, and about 50% of the time that means back toward earth. Have you figured out how that's true yet Joe? We could show you the math (it's pretty simple to work out with high-school trig) but it's more fun watching you fail to understand basic things while tying to lecture us. (Oh shit, I'll give you a hint. If you want to work it out with trig you just need one Arccosine term.) So all directions means 50% is going back towards the earth? Even with greenhouse gasses getting in the way of the re-emitted IR photon? With winds blowing the heat away from the surface? How much will reach the earth if the earth is hotter than what is being re-emitted back towards it? -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 19 2018,18:56    Quote I said in order for CO2 to act like a blanket. Blankets keep the radiated body heat from leaving. That means anyone who says CO2 acts like a blanket is saying the CO2 is all lined up such that it all radiates directly back towards the earth. You don't know how molecules work. What sort of "lined up" orientation do you imagine they need to be in to absorb and reradiate? and do you imagine your blanket isn't reradiating away from you too? Because it is. Figure out that ~50% number yet? I'm not giving you another trig hint. (this should be good.)

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 19 2018,18:58    Quote With winds blowing the heat away from the surface? Winds blow sideways. Watch the weather report sometimes.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 19 2018,19:01    Quote So all directions means 50% is going back towards the earth? From a few miles up? yes, duh. Where do you think the CO2 is, as far away as the moon? The average molecule is less than 5 miles up. Quote Even with greenhouse gasses getting in the way of the re-emitted IR photon? yes. which sometimes reabsorb and randomly reemit again.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 19 2018,19:05    "50% back towards the earth" Doesn't mean each individual photon makes it all the way to the surface of the earth. It means when the emission happens 50% of the time it's in the direction of earth. You really should stop arguing and get a basic education first if you're actually interested in the science. Because you don't seem to be getting anywhere.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 19 2018,19:31    Quote How much will reach the earth if the earth is hotter than what is being re-emitted back towards it? This makes no sense. Heat doesn't 'turn photons back'. But the Celtics/Cavs game just started so I'm out.

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 19 2018,19:32    Quote (Joe G @ May 19 2018,18:49) Too bad that is not how it works in the real world. For one CO2 only sees 8% of what is radiated from earth. For another most of what is re-emitted doesn't get back to the earth mostly because the earth as the source is already hotter than the atmosphere. Heat travels from hot to cold All the alleged greenhouses gasses do is slow the radiated heat's travel as it rises through the atmosphere. And with CO2 at 410 parts per million it only as the most minimal of effects in that regard. Find us an academic or scientific site ANYWHERE which agrees with the stupid claims you just made.  ANYWHERE chubs. -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 19 2018,19:36    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ May 19 2018,19:32) Quote (Joe G @ May 19 2018,18:49) Too bad that is not how it works in the real world. For one CO2 only sees 8% of what is radiated from earth. For another most of what is re-emitted doesn't get back to the earth mostly because the earth as the source is already hotter than the atmosphere. Heat travels from hot to cold All the alleged greenhouses gasses do is slow the radiated heat's travel as it rises through the atmosphere. And with CO2 at 410 parts per million it only as the most minimal of effects in that regard. Find us an academic or scientific site ANYWHERE which agrees with the stupid claims you just made.  ANYWHERE chubs. What? It is a scientific fact that CO2 only can absorb 8% of what the earth radiates. It only absorbs in three different wavelengths. Thermodynamics says heat travels from hot to cold And for the earth to radiate heat to the atmosphere it has to be hotter than the atmosphere. All facts, moron -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 19 2018,19:37    Quote (stevestory @ May 19 2018,18:58) Quote With winds blowing the heat away from the surface? Winds blow sideways. Watch the weather report sometimes. Sideways is away from the earth which is down -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 19 2018,19:38    Quote (stevestory @ May 19 2018,19:31) Quote How much will reach the earth if the earth is hotter than what is being re-emitted back towards it? This makes no sense. Heat doesn't 'turn photons back'. But the Celtics/Cavs game just started so I'm out. Heat travels from hot to cold. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 19 2018,19:42    Quote (Joe G @ May 19 2018,18:44)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ May 19 2018,17:39)     Quote (Joe G @ May 19 2018,17:31) You all choked when I said that in order for that to be true then all of the radiation had to be back towards earth. That's one of the many reasons we know you're such a dumbass Joke.  For the planet to be warmer with atmospheric CO2 than without it ALL of the infrared radiation doesn't have to be back towards Earth, only SOME of it has to be to increase the temperature.  Any amount directed back towards the planet will increase the temperature more than none radiated back. Simple physics is just too hard for an ignorant toaster repairman.   You goal post moving faggot. I said in order for CO2 to act like a blanket. Blankets keep the radiated body heat from leaving. That means anyone who says CO2 acts like a blanket is saying the CO2 is all lined up such that it all radiates directly back towards the earth. It isn't my fault that you don't understand the implications of what you spew. And blankets don't just hold in 8% of the body's radiated heat to begin with How amazingly stupid does Joke have to be to think ALL CO2 molecules have to "point the right way" in order for SOME energy to re re-radiated back to Earth? This is some incredible IDiot stupidity here folks, far and above the normal ignorant inanity.   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 19 2018,19:44    Quote (Joe G @ May 19 2018,19:36) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ May 19 2018,19:32)   Quote (Joe G @ May 19 2018,18:49) Too bad that is not how it works in the real world. For one CO2 only sees 8% of what is radiated from earth. For another most of what is re-emitted doesn't get back to the earth mostly because the earth as the source is already hotter than the atmosphere. Heat travels from hot to cold All the alleged greenhouses gasses do is slow the radiated heat's travel as it rises through the atmosphere. And with CO2 at 410 parts per million it only as the most minimal of effects in that regard. Find us an academic or scientific site ANYWHERE which agrees with the stupid claims you just made.  ANYWHERE chubs. What? It is a scientific fact that CO2 only can absorb 8% of what the earth radiates. It only absorbs in three different wavelengths. Thermodynamics says heat travels from hot to cold And for the earth to radiate heat to the atmosphere it has to be hotter than the atmosphere. All facts, moron HAH!  Dumbass chubs can't fine a single academic or scientific site to agree with his "Joemodynamics" stupidity. What a surprise.   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 19 2018,19:51    Quote (Joe G @ May 19 2018,18:44) Blankets keep the radiated body heat from leaving. Blankets keep SOME of your body's radiated heat from leaving you dumbass.  It returns that kept heat back to your body to make your body warmer. Dumbass Joke doesn't even understand how a simple blanket on your bed at night helps keep you warm.   Truly amazing stupidity on display here folks.   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 19 2018,20:15    Quote (Joe G @ May 19 2018,20:38) Quote (stevestory @ May 19 2018,19:31) Quote How much will reach the earth if the earth is hotter than what is being re-emitted back towards it? This makes no sense. Heat doesn't 'turn photons back'. But the Celtics/Cavs game just started so I'm out. Heat travels from hot to cold. ok first quarter is over. "heat travels from hot to cold" is not a law, it's a description of most situations most of the time. if it was always true your fridge could never get cold. If the increase in entropy is high enough you can move heat from cold to hot. That's how fridges work. if you could never move heat from cold to hot your fridge would be the same temp as your kitchen. You can't use 5th grade science to understand complicated issues like this. If you'd ever had a thermo class you'd know this statement isn't always true. "Blankets keep the radiated body heat from leaving." Blankets, like CO2, slow down heat loss and keep *some* of your heat from leaving. If blankets retained all your body heat you'd die. and if you knew any chemistry you'd know your 'molecules have to be aligned' stuff is pure gibberish. Learn some actual science, or find dumber people to argue with. or stay here and say completely dumb things and call use faggots. we're cool with that too.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 19 2018,20:25    Quote A useful analogy in this regard is to think of heat flowing from hot to cold objects as running ``down hill'', which is what objects naturally do in Newtonian mechanics. It is possible to make objects go up hill, but only by doing external work on them. This movement of heat from a cool to a warm reservoir through some external work is the basis of the following three devices. In a refrigerator, the cool reservoir is the inside of the refrigerator, and the warm reservoir is the room itself. From this, one can see that leaving a refrigerator door open will not cool off the room that it is in. In an air conditioner, the cool reservoir is the inside of a house, and the warm reservoir is the outside. This is used to cool a house in the summer. In a heat pump, the cool reservoir is the outside of a house, and the warm reservoir is the inside. This can be used to warm a house in the winter. The heat pump is thus just the reverse of an air conditioner, and indeed some heat pumps have a switch which allows them to function as an air conditioner in the summer. http://theory.uwinnipeg.ca/mod_tec....79.html

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 19 2018,20:28    Quote How amazingly stupid does Joke have to be to think ALL CO2 molecules have to "point the right way" in order for SOME energy to re re-radiated back to Earth? I have no idea who gave him the kooky idea he has about CO2 molecules having to be pointed some way. That is just baffling. I think he read some web sites and thinks he can argue science now, because he obviously has no education in math, chemistry, or physics. Edited by stevestory on May 19 2018,21:29

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 19 2018,20:33    Quote All the alleged greenhouses gasses do is slow the radiated heat's travel as it rises through the atmosphere. And with CO2 at 410 parts per million it only as the most minimal of effects in that regard. I'd love to see joe try to calculate the effect it has, when he can't even figure out the 50% radiation thing.

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 19 2018,20:36    Quote (stevestory @ May 19 2018,20:28)   Quote How amazingly stupid does Joke have to be to think ALL CO2 molecules have to "point the right way" in order for SOME energy to re re-radiated back to Earth? I have no idea who gave him the kooky idea he has about CO2 molecules having to be pointed some way. That is just baffling. I think he read some web sites and thinks he can argue science now, because he obviously has no education in math, chemistry, or physics. I bet he's aces when it comes to repairing toasters though.   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: May 19 2018,20:45    I guess he thinks CO2 molecules are like little cannons and they can only shoot their photon bullets the way their little barrells are pointed.       Which suggests he is in fact a Poe and he's just having fun acting as stupid as he can invent.

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