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|Quote (GaryGaulin @ Dec. 06 2012,21:42)|
|Quote (Doc Bill @ Dec. 06 2012,21:12)|
|Clueless fuckwit wrote: |
|One of the Baldwin Effect lines perhaps.|
Alec or Stephen?
If you have a problem with that then you have no idea what the potentially species altering Baldwin Effect is, or how it could here be displayed. But if you can explain it so much better then go ahead, enlighten me.
You see, GaryBillyBobDumbFuck, one of your many, many problems is that not only are you ignorant but you are incurious, too. I had to LOL that you, Supreme Programmer of the Universe (self-proclaimed) had never heard of a Monte Carlo simulation and quoted a Wiki article as if that made up for your dumbfuckery. It didn't.
And, once again, you toss out a term you have only casual acquaintance with, the Baldwin Effect, without knowing anything whatsoever about either the Effect or the esteemed Baldwin family.
You see, GaryBillyBobDumbFuck, one of the things you learn in graduate school is not only the "thing," in this case the Baldwin Effect, but the people behind the "thing," in this case the Baldwins. It must be lonely in your empty little head with all these facts and terms rattling around totally unconnected. Does it hurt?
Unfortunately, you inadvertently stumbled on something that has been researched as an emergent property of underlying physics and chemistry by none other than the fascinating Baldwin family. So, when I asked in my own way "which one" where I was referring to microscopic or macroscopic effects, obtusely, I agree, you demonstrated you usual ignorance and stupidity. It deserves correction, though.
The Baldwin family emigrated to the United States from Nottingham, England in the mid 1850's: Erasmus Edward Baldwin, RA, FRS, FCD (1838-1892) and his wife, Emma. Their son, James Mark Baldwin (1861-1934) earned a PhD in Natural History and Philosophy from Princeton and was curator of the Museum of Natural History there for many years.
James Mark was the father of Alexander Rae Baldwin (1891-1960) who settled in New York state where he was a pharmacist. Alexander plays a pivotal role in the Baldwin family history because he had twin boys: Alexander Rae Baldwin, Jr. (1927-1983) and Stephen James Baldwin (1927-2002). Alexander Junior went on to become a schoolteacher and lived in New York state. Stephen James went on to become a medical doctor and surgeon living most of his life in Boston.
Now, this is the best part!
Alexander Rae Junior had a large family, four boys and two girls, I think, but two of the boys are well-known to this day. Both Alec Baldwin (1958) and his brother, Stephen (1966) are actors and figure prominently in television, movies and the tabloids.
Lesser known are Stephen James' boys also named Alec (1959) and Stephen (1966) who were named after their cousins. Alexander Junior and his twin brother Stephen were very close right up to Alexander's untimely death from cancer in 1983.
However, the other Baldwin brothers took a different path with Alec earning a PhD in Microbiology and Stephen earning a double PhD in Evolutionary Biology and Psychology. Alec works for the Center for Disease Control in Atlanta while Stephen is with the National Institute of Health in Maryland. Both Baldwins have been instrumental in providing experimental support for their grandfather's work on what has become known as the Baldwin Effect.
At the CDC, Alec has published papers demonstrating an epigenetic emergent property resulting from mutations that lead to disease resistance in bacteria, in essence, a "culture communication" that hasn't been fully elucidated. While over at the NIH Stephen has been researching how some plant populations seem to "outrun" drought conditions faster than random mutation and natural selection would allow. Again, both Baldwins have extended their grandfather's work with Alec working on the microscopic scale and Stephen concentrating on macroscopic effects. Both scientists are doing work on what they have called "population intelligence" which is an emergent property of underlying causes. Whether "population intelligence" drives natural selection, is influenced by natural selection or is independent of it is not known at this time, although the results observed so far do not support "independent."
And that, as they say, is the rest of the story. Science is really fascinating but not as fascinating as the people who do science and the twists and turns their families take.
Edited by Doc Bill on Dec. 07 2012,16:34