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|Quote (Jerry Don Bauer @ Dec. 05 2012,11:53)|
|[quote=Southstar,Dec. 05 2012,10:05][/quote]|
Gary, I will get to your post when time allows...
Now it's really silly to say you don't have the math to support your idea of quantum creation. In QM if you don't have the maths that support your view you don't have dipshit. It's the equivalent of saying I have no idea what supports my words. But i'm in it for the game so: okay using words please describe in detail how quantum entanglement creates t-rexes (in a little more detail than "QM does it")
Oh...but you DO have the math to support abiogenesis, speciation of Archaeopteryx and people magically morphing out of monkeys? Let's see it...When we see your walk match your talk mathematically, then I'll try to come up to speed... ;)
I'll stick with both...I'm silly enough to posit that children come from parents and that they are designed via DNA as it recombines in a cell.....guess I'm just silly that way.. :)
|That really depends on the definition of "intelligent". If by intelligent you mean that it has foresight, ability to make pondered guesses and conscious thought then no DNA is not intelligent.|
Who says that intelligence is only pondered guesses and conscious thought? We need to get past the thinking that all intelligence hinges on an IQ test. That limits it only to humans (pretty much, anyhow)
Intelligence is really just the ability to process information..(think AI in computers). Bacteria show intelligence when they flagellate away from toxic molecules or toward food...robots and computers can actually talk to you. Dumb particles show intelligence when they "know" that an observer is present watching them and change their behavior accordingly.
And DNA is not much different than a computer hard drive as discussed above.
|Further I would say no because nothing in nature is designed.|
Whoops...gotta stop you there because that isn't true....EVERYTHING in nature is designed. Sand dunes are designed by wind--accretion, the Grand Canyon was designed by water erosion, rabbits are designed by momma rabbits and DNA, corn is designed by seeds....
|A design by definition comes before a creation so you are saying that future mutations are stored in existing plans somewhere. Please specifiy where this information is held and how you know about it.|
Don't know what you are talking about. I don't believe this, nor have I said anything to lead you that direction..
Mutations (for the most part) are spontaneous events....
When the wind designs a sand-dune, is it then doing it intentionally?
Or have you redefined the word "design" to include unintentional events?
Because if you have, you've just destroyed the whole Intelligent design "movement"