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The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2012,04:43   

Quote (Jerry Don Bauer @ Dec. 02 2012,15:15)
Quote (The whole truth @ Dec. 02 2012,16:41)

jerry said:

"Now, I addressed CSI in detail......"

 
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Well then, since you're a self-proclaimed expert on CSI, will you tell me, in detail, how much CSI there is in a wild banana? Will you tell me, in detail, who or what specified the complex information in a wild banana? And will you tell me, in detail, what the complex information is in a wild banana?


I'm sorry, I don't know how much CSI is in a wild banana...in fact, I don't think I even know any wild bananas...I used to date a Wild Irish Rose.....lol

But what specified the information in a wild banana? A banana seed did, or a seedling....This happened when DNA recombined......

 
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While you're at it, will you tell me, in detail, how it is determined that information is 'complex'? Is there such a thing as information that is not complex? If so, where exactly is the dividing line between non-complex and complex information?


It's complex of it is over 500 bits of information...if it is also specified, it then becomes CSI (and all DNA, by it's very nature is specified information).

So, yeah, I'm messing with you a bit...but I would have to have a charted genome and take about a weeks time to calculate what you want.

But (and I have pointed this out before on here), why on earth do you want to calculate the CSI of an entire organism like that.....You want to know if it is CSI? Just a few proteins in a single cell of that organism is CSI.....You KNOW the whole organism would be, and astronomically so.

So, a banana seed is the 'specifier' of a banana? Who or what specified the banana seed?  QM? Intelligent molecules? yhwh-jesus-holy ghost? The FSM?

How did you come up with 500 bits as the minimum requirement for information to be "complex"? Is it because dembski or some other IDiot says so? Why not 400 bits, or 600 bits, or 3.9 bits, or 100 trillion bits?

Was there complex specified information before there were humans? If so, who or what was around to figure out the 'bits'?

"So, yeah, I'm messing with you a bit...but I would have to have a charted genome and take about a weeks time to calculate what you want."

I don't mind waiting a week.

"But (and I have pointed this out before on here), why on earth do you want to calculate the CSI of an entire organism like that.....You want to know if it is CSI? Just a few proteins in a single cell of that organism is CSI.....You KNOW the whole organism would be, and astronomically so."

Why on Earth not? In all the years that you IDiots have been pushing "CSI", none of you have ever calculated the CSI in an entire organism? I would think that you would be anxious to do so.

Edited by The whole truth on Dec. 04 2012,02:50

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